Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 In a message dated 1/26/03 1:15:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, garden_goddess@... writes: > My comment re citric acid was that I have heard from people that use > borax in their liquid soaps that the Crothix didn't work for them. I > had used citric acid, and it worked for me, and I believe it was > Angie who had also had success with Crothix using a soap with citric > acid in it. I made the assumption that using borax didn't lower the > pH enough to be within the range the Crothix works in. I could be > wrong, but that's my story! *lol* > Hi Jules and All, I am constantly asked about how liquid soap can be thickened and my response is that my customers have reported some good results using crothix and some are not good. I don't use liquid soap or make it or like it and I am always happy to share the merits of the " mild " surfactants, but that's another story Several years ago, when I was considering liquid soap for a shampoo base, I bought some from a supplier. Turns out I didn't like it at all---too irritating---so I just put it on the back shelf in the storage closet. About a year ago, I did try using the crothix to thicken it...and it did thicken it beautifully. The label on this liquid soap reads: No SLS, SLES, or alcohol--Just Pure Natural Liquid Soap. Ingredients: distilled water, saponified palm and coconut oil, potassium sorbate, 37% active ingredients. So, I don't know if it has any citric acid in it or not. And let me re-state again: This is NOT a product that I sell or endorse in any way!!!! I'm just using it as an example, my only example. The pH on this soap is 9.1. There are alot of soapmakers out there who have tried crothix. Maybe they will speak up to let us know if they have had good results with the crothix and how they incorporated it into the soap...Bobbi? Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Hi Patti, I've been making shampoo from scratch for awhile but as you know natural shampoo is somewhat thin. I've tried Crothix a few times with variations in my recipes, Citric Acid, didn't work, then borax didn't work. So I asked my supplier and was told maybe it's the coconut. Well even I wasn't buying that one. So this time I tried a higher soap to water ratio for dilution. Bingo! that worked! I now have beautifully thick shampoo. Oh by the way I used borax this time. I hope this helps you. Thanks Jules and Angie! I just checked my recipe and it does call for a small amount of Borax. I have a week off this coming week, and I think I'll try it again (just one last time!) and try it with some Citric Acid and then try adding some Crothix. If this time doesn't work I might try a CP recipe as liquid soap. If that doesn't work, then it's Surfactants all the way baby! ~Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Oops - mea culpa, Angie. I had it in my head that yours contained citric acid, don't know why! Probably cuz I knew it didn't have borax in it...*lol* Jules > Hi Jules and All, <snip> The label on this liquid soap reads: No SLS, SLES, or > alcohol--Just Pure Natural Liquid Soap. Ingredients: distilled water, > saponified palm and coconut oil, potassium sorbate, 37% active ingredients. > > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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