Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 >I was wondering if any of the following crosses over from being cosmetic claims to OTC claims: minimizes the look of stretch marks, minimizes the look of wrinkles or scars, deodorizing. IMO, that is not a drug statement. I would change " look " to appearance: " minimizes the appearance of stretch marks " and/or " minimizes the appearance of wrinkles or scars " Deodorants that mask odor with a fragrance are not drugs. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Thank you Maurice. I created a balm for my cousin-in-law for her pregnant belly ) and she loves it and stated it's made her stretch marks look less noticeable. So I'd like to be able to market the product without " crossing the line " . I'm working on a " wrinkle " cream and a deodorizing foot spray (with my husband and sports heavy teenagers you'd know why!). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 >I was wondering if any of the following crosses over from being cosmetic >claims to OTC claims: minimizes the look of stretch marks, minimizes the >look of wrinkles or scars, deodorizing. >Hi folks Since joining this list I've been super-aware of advertising; notice how EVERY ad on TV talks about the LOOK (or appearance) ...healthy LOOKING hair, the APPEARANCE of fine lines, extreme caution about claims. I'd be curious to see some ads from, say, 30 years ago.... regards, Brigid (who mostly lurks but LOVES this list, and quotes from it often to her customers.....). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 After listening to the recent discussion on product claims and resulting labeling requirements, I've been paying more attention to various sites and their products. What do you think of the following description which came off the Crabtree & site? Is this what you'd call a drug claim? <<Aloe Vera Soothing Lip Balm: Convenient pocket or purse-size balm softens and soothes lips with beeswax and soothing aloe vera extract.>> As for listing ingredients, on websites anyway, it seems that many companies do not, perhaps because ingredients are listed on the products themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 >Next time you are window shopping begin reading labels. You will see that >many of the big companies don't always following the regs either. I guess it depends on how you define big. Lever (aka Unilever), P & G, Estee Lauder and Colgate are big companies. And the always label with INCI names. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 >The post was referring to claims, not INCI names.ÿ <G> The subject line said " cosmetic claims " , but your comment was made in reference to listing ingredients. Intuitively, you can see how I assumed that you we're referencing ingredient labeling use by big companies. See below. ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ><<<<As for listing ingredients, on websites anyway, it seems that many companies >do not, perhaps because ingredients are listed on the products themselves?>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >****Next time you are window shopping begin reading labels. You will see that >many of the big companies don't always following the regs either. >I guess it depends on how you define big.ÿ Lever (aka Unilever), P & G, Estee Lauder and Colgate are big companies.ÿ And the always label with INCI names. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your post. It will not happen again! Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Thanks, Dee. It was the " soothing " description that made me wonder. I'm particularly interested in how to write appropriate descriptions as I'm in the process of creating a website now and don't want to write inappropriate descriptions. I have to say, it's pretty hard since the things we make DO feel soothing and helpful, lol. For example, I recently made a lipbalm that does not cause my lips to shred and peel the way commercial lip balms do... obviously, there's something in commercial products (no matter which brand; I've tried them all) that my lips can't tolerate. So, how could I word my product that wouldn't be in violation of labeling laws?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <<Aloe Vera Soothing Lip Balm: Convenient pocket or purse-size balm softens and soothes lips with beeswax and soothing aloe vera extract.>> ***Certainly appears to be, doesn't it? But the question you must ask yourself is this: Does it change the body or one of it's function in any way? Soothe is sort of teetering on that fence separating drug from cosmetic. ****Next time you are window shopping begin reading labels. You will see that many of the big companies don't always following the regs either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ><<<<As for listing ingredients, on websites anyway, it seems that many companies >do not, perhaps because ingredients are listed on the products themselves?>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >****Next time you are window shopping begin reading labels. You will see that >many of the big companies don't always following the regs either. >>>>>>>> Ooops. I was still thinking of the claim in the post made by Crabtree & . Pardon my blunder. Dee ><((((º>·.¸:.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 <<<<<<<<Thanks, Dee. It was the " soothing " description that made me wonder........ For example, I recently made a lipbalm that does not cause my lips to shred and peel the way commercial lip balms do... obviously, there's something in commercial products (no matter which brand; I've tried them all) that my lips can't tolerate. So, how could I word my product that wouldn't be in violation of labeling laws??>>>>>>>>> Since I don't sell on the web, or describe my propducts I am not the best one to help you describe your products. Selling face to face I have the advantage of the customer trying my products right then and there. = ) I let my products do all the talking. Dee ><((((º>·.¸:.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi Dee Something which has me baffled and I'm not referring to your products, is how do you sell aromatherapy products which have healing properties without crossing over into the medicines division.? Take for example Pat's question a while ago on a PMT blend. It would be my understanding that you cannot make any medicinal claims on the labeling OR any verbal claims. Here the Department of Health say you cannot use " traditionally used for blah blah so you cannot even use that. Is there a difference between what you " say " and what you put on the label, I thought you couldn't say anything either. Pam PS thanks for the file on syndets, I meant to email you back So, how could I word my product that wouldn't be in violation of labeling laws??>>>>>>>>> Since I don't sell on the web, or describe my products I am not the best one to help you describe your products. Selling face to face I have the advantage of the customer trying my products right then and there. = ) I let my products do all the talking. Dee ><((((º>·.¸:.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi Dee Something which has me baffled and I'm not referring to your products, is how do you sell aromatherapy products which have healing properties without crossing over into the medicines division.? I don't know. I don't sell aroma therapy. Perhaps Marge can answer you as how she manages that. =) Dee ><((((º>·.¸:.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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