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[ ] looks at me upside down...

> hi group,

> my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the eye, then tilt his

> head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside down, keeping his

> eyes on me the whole time.

>

> to imagine this, look at something then bend to the side and tilt your

> head so that you're almost looking at the item upside down.

>

> feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver oil

> today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff..

>

> any thoughts?

> matt

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Hi Matt,

When my son was 2 to 3 years old he use to do this all the time too.

He also would find some way to hang his head upside down (i.e. off

the edge of the bed, couch, etc) right before he would fall asleep.

A few other vision related things were:

He would always put his sun glasses on upside down, and when he had a

toy squirt gun he would hold that upside down too.

When he first learned to make a cross he could not cross over the

vertical line with a horizontal line. When making the horizontal

line across the vertical line he would stop the pen lift it up and

start on the other side of the vertical line. He could easily cross

the horizontal line with a vertical line with no problem, but not the

other way around. He is fine now.

Also, he was left handed prior to becoming toxic and now write right

handed.

Cathie

Austin's Mom

> hi group,

> my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the eye, then tilt his

> head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside down, keeping

his

> eyes on me the whole time.

>

> to imagine this, look at something then bend to the side and tilt

your

> head so that you're almost looking at the item upside down.

>

> feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver

oil

> today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff..

>

> any thoughts?

> matt

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Matt,

This may or may not be the same issue so hope I don't get this off

track here. My son would sometimes run with his head tilted sideways.

When his OT evaluated him for the first time she commented on how he

seemed to need to orient pictures or pieces of paper that they were

looking at. I may not be explaining that very well. An example would

be he would be asked to look at a sheet of paper with a cat on it and

he would have to turn the paper sideways or tilt it to look at it. We

went to a vision therapist or therapetic optican or optomitrist(I get

those confused) He did

some vision testing, not the standard type, and told us our son could

be helped with the " prism " glasses. That's not the official term,

sorry I can't think of it right now- it's been a long day :) Anyway,

this was last summer. My son was so sensory defensive he wouldn't

wear them at all, but we tried again last month and he's starting to

wear them. I won't let him play Ninetendo or get on the computer

unless he wears them. And I think it's doing " something " . He will

wear them now even when he's not on the computer(not for 1/2 a day or

anything but

sometimes he'll wear them for an hour and half after he's stopped

with the computer). We were told to " build up gradually " to wearing

them all day. It seemed sortof " voodooesque " to borrow a phrase, but

he doesn't seem to mind them and like I said, something is a little

different. But I can't really quantify it. Could just be my wishful

thinking.

Has anyone else had any experience with these glasses?

Thanks,

Kay

> hi group,

> my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the eye, then tilt his

> head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside down, keeping

his

> eyes on me the whole time.

>

> to imagine this, look at something then bend to the side and tilt

your

> head so that you're almost looking at the item upside down.

>

> feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver

oil

> today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff..

>

> any thoughts?

> matt

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Consider vision therapy for your son. we started it

and started to see some nice improvement with visual

stimming. Unfortunately we were not very good about

keeping up with it and need to find someone locally

(we went to Mel Kaplan in NY and the follow up was a

problem for us).

Tali

--- mganey@... wrote:

> hi group,

> my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the

> eye, then tilt his

> head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside

> down, keeping his

> eyes on me the whole time.

>

> to imagine this, look at something then bend to the

> side and tilt your

> head so that you're almost looking at the item

> upside down.

>

> feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're

> starting cod liver oil

> today as it appears vit A helps with the visual

> stuff..

>

> any thoughts?

> matt

>

>

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chelate. it will go. in the meantime, it's not hurting anything for him to

look at things differently, is it? (-:

Re: [ ] looks at me upside down...

> Consider vision therapy for your son. we started it

> and started to see some nice improvement with visual

> stimming. Unfortunately we were not very good about

> keeping up with it and need to find someone locally

> (we went to Mel Kaplan in NY and the follow up was a

> problem for us).

>

> Tali

> --- mganey@... wrote:

> > hi group,

> > my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the

> > eye, then tilt his

> > head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside

> > down, keeping his

> > eyes on me the whole time.

> >

> > to imagine this, look at something then bend to the

> > side and tilt your

> > head so that you're almost looking at the item

> > upside down.

> >

> > feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're

> > starting cod liver oil

> > today as it appears vit A helps with the visual

> > stuff..

> >

> > any thoughts?

> > matt

> >

> >

>

>

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In a message dated 4/7/01 4:11:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mganey@... writes:

hi group,

my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the eye, then tilt his head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside down, keeping his eyes on me the whole time.

to imagine this, look at something then bend to the side and tilt your head so that you're almost looking at the item upside down.

feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver oil today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff..

any thoughts?

My son used to do this quite often, or he would even just lean up against the couch and be on his head. It was a sensory thing. He needed swing time in the occupational room. Its a rush of blood to the inner ear, it helps regulate them. He does not do this anymore for quite some time now wiht the great OT he has been getting.

Sal's mom

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I'm not sure if this is quite in the same realm as your stories, but my daughter used to do what we called "the stink but" - you know, those bugs that stop and put their bums up to try and scare you off? Well, she would get on her knees and put her head down with her bum up like that. I used to contribute it to Candida/food intolerances. Haven't seen it for a while now.

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In a message dated 4/7/01 4:11:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mganey@... writes:

hi group, my 22mo old boy loves to come up, look me in the eye, then tilt his head sideways and keep looking at me almost upside down, keeping his eyes on me the whole time. to imagine this, look at something then bend to the side and tilt your head so that you're almost looking at the item upside down. feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver oil today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff.. any thoughts? My son used to do this quite often, or he would even just lean up against the couch and be on his head. It was a sensory thing. He needed swing time in the occupational room. Its a rush of blood to the inner ear, it helps regulate them. He does not do this anymore for quite some time now wiht the great OT he has been getting. Sal's mom =======================================================

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From: casti71@...

>feels like a visual stim/trait/whatever. we're starting cod liver oil today as it appears vit A helps with the visual stuff..

I think Vitamin A helps vision, not visual symptoms ..

Have you researched prism glasses? I have heard of a boy whose visual impairments went unnoticed until one day when his parents placed multi-coloured sculptured carpeting in their living room.

Suddenly the boy was falling down all the time and that's when the parents noticed he had been walking down halls with his hand on the wall, seemingly to find his way.

We worried our daughter might not be able to see properly and at that time she couldn't tell an opthalmalogist whether or not she could see an eye chart correctly.

What we did was look for someone with radiokeratonic equipment. They were able to look directly at the eyeball and establish she had perfect vision.

In another post I wrote of her initial inability to track objects correctly. She was turning her head rather than moving her eyes ... we caused her to move and sway while watching television in a ny JumpUp when she ws about the age of your son and that alleviated the symptom.

The boy who couldn't walk on sculptured carpeting was found to be in need of prism glasses (sometimes used in autism).

Maybe this is helpful ...

Minc

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