Re: moderators (Elena) -

February 1, 2006

>

> Dear love,

>

> I am having a hard time deciding who is more funny, Tami or you.

>

snip

> MY picture of this group is a meadow, whilst the members are

> flowers. Now, one member is a butterfly, and sometimes it joins us.

>

I find nothing funny about the fact that participation of

many members of this group i.e. , Elena, Brigitte, myself

etc. has substantially dropped since the advent of the Tami and

show.

Now I am sure that we could all wrap ourselves in a cosy little

bubble of self-inquiry and say that Tami and can do whatever

they like because my thinking is really the problem. We could all

run around making bliss-ninny statements that this group is a meadow

and the members are flowers.

I prefer a path of social action based on Inquiry. If I have any

stressful thoughts about Tami or I can bring them to inquiry

and find peace. From that state of peace I can then kindly remind

Tami and that their current behaviour needs to be adjusted to

be more harmonious with others in the group. This is unconditional

love in action.

you remind me so much of my second brother, who stubbornly

insists that because he loves his three children so much he just

can't discipline them. To him they are like flowers in a meadow free

to do whatever they want. After ten years of this what do we have?

Three children from hell, who he can't take to a restaurant because

they cause so much trouble. Children who are so badly behaved that

no one wants them in their homes for fear of the damage they will

do. My brother thinks he loves unconditionally, from my perspective

I don't see any love just fear.

So I am sure that you will find this post amusing to. You

use laughter to defend your confused beliefs, and so you should

until you don't.

Have a beautiful day

" Thoughts about your wants and needs can be very bossy. If you

believe them, you feel you have to do what they say—you have to get

people's love and approval. There is another way to respond to a

thought, and that is to question it. How can you question your wants

and needs? How can you meet your thoughts without believing them?

I meet my thoughts the way I would meet my husband or my children:

with understanding. " Byron

February 1, 2006

Dear Love the work, You could be right about everything you said,

But I thought this group was about inquiry, not about advice, or

correcting the behavior of others. If I am not moved by someone's

message, I just leave it and read another. Many do not apply to me,

I just find the ones that do.

Everyone knows 's story about picking up her children's socks.

She stopped trying to change them, and simply became an example of

how to enjoy picking up socks. They could join her or not. I want

that kind of freedom in my life.

Love

> >

> > Dear love,

> >

> > I am having a hard time deciding who is more funny, Tami or you.

> >

> snip

>

> > MY picture of this group is a meadow, whilst the members are

> > flowers. Now, one member is a butterfly, and sometimes it joins

us.

> >

>

> I find nothing funny about the fact that participation

of

> many members of this group i.e. , Elena, Brigitte, myself

> etc. has substantially dropped since the advent of the Tami and

> show.

> Now I am sure that we could all wrap ourselves in a cosy little

> bubble of self-inquiry and say that Tami and can do whatever

> they like because my thinking is really the problem. We could all

> run around making bliss-ninny statements that this group is a

meadow

> and the members are flowers.

> I prefer a path of social action based on Inquiry. If I have any

> stressful thoughts about Tami or I can bring them to inquiry

> and find peace. From that state of peace I can then kindly remind

> Tami and that their current behaviour needs to be adjusted

to

> be more harmonious with others in the group. This is unconditional

> love in action.

> you remind me so much of my second brother, who

stubbornly

> insists that because he loves his three children so much he just

> can't discipline them. To him they are like flowers in a meadow

free

> to do whatever they want. After ten years of this what do we have?

> Three children from hell, who he can't take to a restaurant

because

> they cause so much trouble. Children who are so badly behaved that

> no one wants them in their homes for fear of the damage they will

> do. My brother thinks he loves unconditionally, from my

perspective

> I don't see any love just fear.

> So I am sure that you will find this post amusing to.

You

> use laughter to defend your confused beliefs, and so you should

> until you don't.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

> " Thoughts about your wants and needs can be very bossy. If you

> believe them, you feel you have to do what they say—you have to

get

> people's love and approval. There is another way to respond to a

> thought, and that is to question it. How can you question your

wants

> and needs? How can you meet your thoughts without believing them?

> I meet my thoughts the way I would meet my husband or my children:

> with understanding. " Byron

>

February 1, 2006

Dear Love,

Am 02.02.2006 um 00:02 schrieb lovetheworkofbk:

>

>>

>> Dear love,

>>

>> I am having a hard time deciding who is more funny, Tami or you.

>>

> snip

>

>> MY picture of this group is a meadow, whilst the members are

>> flowers. Now, one member is a butterfly, and sometimes it joins us.

>>

>

> I find nothing funny about the fact that participation of

> many members of this group i.e. , Elena, Brigitte, myself

> etc. has substantially dropped since the advent of the Tami and

> show.

And I don't see any problem with that. Really.

> Now I am sure that we could all wrap ourselves in a cosy little

> bubble of self-inquiry and say that Tami and can do whatever

> they like because my thinking is really the problem. We could all

> run around making bliss-ninny statements that this group is a meadow

> and the members are flowers.

Well, I don't know about you. If I am annoyed, it means I am giving

away my power to someone else. I can learn to take care of myself,

and THEN show others how to get there. By being who I am.

> I prefer a path of social action based on Inquiry. If I have any

> stressful thoughts about Tami or I can bring them to inquiry

> and find peace. From that state of peace I can then kindly remind

> Tami and that their current behaviour needs to be adjusted to

> be more harmonious with others in the group.

I don't even see of how that would change anything. And I don't

understand why you keep hacking on them? Other members seem to be

truly interested in getting this issue done.

> This is unconditional love in action.

NO.

This is what YOUR unconditional love in action may be.

Please tell me (this one time, I ask you an honest question):

Assume I did that, AND it worked.

WHOSE life would improve?

> you remind me so much of my second brother,

Thank you!

> who stubbornly

> insists that because he loves his three children so much he just

> can't discipline them. To him they are like flowers in a meadow free

> to do whatever they want. After ten years of this what do we have?

> Three children from hell, who he can't take to a restaurant because

> they cause so much trouble.

Oh! My! God!

A life without restaurants! What could be worse?

> Children who are so badly behaved that

> no one wants them in their homes for fear of the damage they will

> do. My brother thinks he loves unconditionally, from my perspective

> I don't see any love just fear.

Ok, and I am sure you are ok with your brother being in fear?

> So I am sure that you will find this post amusing to.

No, I don't find this one amusing. Rather sad. Actually, I find the

spelling of that one sentence amusing, but that's another story!

> You

> use laughter to defend your confused beliefs, and so you should

> until you don't.

I am astonished at how well you know my beliefs. I don't think you

see yours, though.

" And so you shouldn't until you do " .

Whatever.

> Have a beautiful day

I love your defenselesness!

PS: I don't wish to discuss this /Tami/whomever issue of yours

anymore.

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February 1, 2006

> Everyone knows 's story about picking up her children's socks.

> She stopped trying to change them, and simply became an example of

> how to enjoy picking up socks. They could join her or not. I want

> that kind of freedom in my life.

Hi ,

Please don't get me wrong. I totally love the freedom and peace of the

Work. However, it's from that base of freedom and peace that we have

the clarity to ACT in the most loving way possible.

Unfortunately it's all to easy to take the Work wrap yourself in a

cosy little bubble of inquiry and become what I like to call a bliss-

ninny. Saying the world is perfect, it's all just my thinking, I don't

need to change anything etc. ... etc.

From the perspective of God it is true that everything is perfect,

however in this world there is confusion and suffering which must be

addressed. If someone is starving it's no use telling them oh don't

worry it's all just a thinking problem, you should be starving because

that is what is. Not a very loving thing to do, but an inevitable

outcome of the bliss-ninny approach. In this list Tami plays up and

when someone politely asks her to behave, the bliss-ninnies all chime

in that there is no problem with Tami it's all just your thinking.

True, but what the bliss-ninnies fail to realize is that this world

has certain standards of polite behaviour which are respected out of

kindness to others. Giving Tami or anyone absolute freedom then

becomes an act of unkindness rather than kindness.

So please do not fall to the dark side and become a bliss-ninny, use

the Work wisely with grace and courage.

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

February 1, 2006

I think Tami is harmless, just a little goofy at times, and very

profound and loving when she wants to be. There is nothing " unkind "

about loving people as they are. Call me a bliss-ninny wannabe.

Love

>

> > Everyone knows 's story about picking up her children's

socks.

> > She stopped trying to change them, and simply became an example

of

> > how to enjoy picking up socks. They could join her or not. I

want

> > that kind of freedom in my life.

>

> Hi ,

>

> Please don't get me wrong. I totally love the freedom and peace of

the

> Work. However, it's from that base of freedom and peace that we

have

> the clarity to ACT in the most loving way possible.

> Unfortunately it's all to easy to take the Work wrap yourself in a

> cosy little bubble of inquiry and become what I like to call a

bliss-

> ninny. Saying the world is perfect, it's all just my thinking, I

don't

> need to change anything etc. ... etc.

> From the perspective of God it is true that everything is perfect,

> however in this world there is confusion and suffering which must

be

> addressed. If someone is starving it's no use telling them oh

don't

> worry it's all just a thinking problem, you should be starving

because

> that is what is. Not a very loving thing to do, but an inevitable

> outcome of the bliss-ninny approach. In this list Tami plays up

and

> when someone politely asks her to behave, the bliss-ninnies all

chime

> in that there is no problem with Tami it's all just your thinking.

> True, but what the bliss-ninnies fail to realize is that this

world

> has certain standards of polite behaviour which are respected out

of

> kindness to others. Giving Tami or anyone absolute freedom then

> becomes an act of unkindness rather than kindness.

> So please do not fall to the dark side and become a bliss-ninny,

use

> the Work wisely with grace and courage.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

> " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

> Byron

>

February 1, 2006

I love me. If you do, too, welcome to the club! I'm also interested

in married women in prison. Yummy! I am Dwight, Dah!

See I can learn a lot from Tami.

Love,

ME

February 1, 2006

>

> I think Tami is harmless, just a little goofy at times, and very

> profound and loving when she wants to be. There is

> nothing " unkind " about loving people as they are. Call me a bliss-

> ninny wannabe.

ROTFLOL ... Tami harmless.

Go back carefully through the archives. Back to the days of Ziggi and

then tell me how profound and loving Tami is. Does a profound and

loving woman have an affair with a married man, or cyber sex with one

of the members of this list? LOL ... if your answer is yes, then truly

you have entered the realm of bliss-ninnyhood. Welcome to the dark

side

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

February 1, 2006

Dear " bliss-ninny wannabe "

I agree with your diagnose of me, that is my story of me too

Love and joy

T

-- Re: moderators (Elena) -

I think Tami is harmless, just a little goofy at times, and very

profound and loving when she wants to be. There is nothing " unkind "

about loving people as they are. Call me a bliss-ninny wannabe.

Love

>

> > Everyone knows 's story about picking up her children's

socks.

> > She stopped trying to change them, and simply became an example

of

> > how to enjoy picking up socks. They could join her or not. I

want

> > that kind of freedom in my life.

>

> Hi ,

>

> Please don't get me wrong. I totally love the freedom and peace of

the

> Work. However, it's from that base of freedom and peace that we

have

> the clarity to ACT in the most loving way possible.

> Unfortunately it's all to easy to take the Work wrap yourself in a

> cosy little bubble of inquiry and become what I like to call a

bliss-

> ninny. Saying the world is perfect, it's all just my thinking, I

don't

> need to change anything etc. ... etc.

> From the perspective of God it is true that everything is perfect,

> however in this world there is confusion and suffering which must

be

> addressed. If someone is starving it's no use telling them oh

don't

> worry it's all just a thinking problem, you should be starving

because

> that is what is. Not a very loving thing to do, but an inevitable

> outcome of the bliss-ninny approach. In this list Tami plays up

and

> when someone politely asks her to behave, the bliss-ninnies all

chime

> in that there is no problem with Tami it's all just your thinking.

> True, but what the bliss-ninnies fail to realize is that this

world

> has certain standards of polite behaviour which are respected out

of

> kindness to others. Giving Tami or anyone absolute freedom then

> becomes an act of unkindness rather than kindness.

> So please do not fall to the dark side and become a bliss-ninny,

use

> the Work wisely with grace and courage.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

> " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

> Byron

>

February 1, 2006

Dwight you can be so sweet when you pretend to be me

-- Re: moderators (Elena) -

I love me. If you do, too, welcome to the club! I'm also interested

in married women in prison. Yummy! I am Dwight, Dah!

See I can learn a lot from Tami.

Love,

ME

February 2, 2006

Tami is everything that you say she is. " No two people have ever

met. " She is your projection and your reflection. She is evil, she

is a saint, You choose.

Love

> >

> > I think Tami is harmless, just a little goofy at times, and very

> > profound and loving when she wants to be. There is

> > nothing " unkind " about loving people as they are. Call me a

bliss-

> > ninny wannabe.

>

> ROTFLOL ... Tami harmless.

>

> Go back carefully through the archives. Back to the days of Ziggi

and

> then tell me how profound and loving Tami is. Does a profound and

> loving woman have an affair with a married man, or cyber sex with

one

> of the members of this list? LOL ... if your answer is yes, then

truly

> you have entered the realm of bliss-ninnyhood. Welcome to the dark

> side

>

> " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

> Byron

>

February 2, 2006

Hilarious Dwight! Thanks for the laugh!

Love and giggle,

>

> I love me. If you do, too, welcome to the club! I'm also

interested

> in married women in prison. Yummy! I am Dwight, Dah!

>

> See I can learn a lot from Tami.

>

> Love,

> ME

>

February 2, 2006

>

> Tami is everything that you say she is. " No two people have ever

> met. " She is your projection and your reflection. She is evil, she

> is a saint, You choose.

Hi ,

Tami is indeed my projection and if I see her as anything less than

love then I am indeed confused. Okay I do the Work and now I am clear.

From that place of clarity I see that Tami is using the Work to

condone unloving actions such as having sex with married men. Love

moves and an email is written to remind myself that having sex with

married women is not loving. It may also touch Tami if she is open.

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

February 2, 2006

Love

Short sentences and get to the point

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