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> Anyway, I have been buying Whole Foods own organic milk that is only

> pasteurized and comes in glass bottles, which can be returned for a

deposit.

> I think the plant it comes from must be in PA as there is a phone

number

> with a 610 area code listed for nutritional information questions.

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Glass bottles, 610 area code... That would probably be Chrome Dairy,

which is about 10 minutes away from me in Oxford, PA. They sell

their milk pretty widely in this region, PA, NJ, probably MD, VA

too. After reading WAPF/NT and considering adding milk to my diet,

but before getting on board about raw milk, there were a few weeks

where I bought milk and cultured buttermilk from their store. Just

keep in mind it is pasteurized and fortified with synthetic retinol

just like typical supermarket milk, which is required by law,

although they don't fortify with vit D because that's legally

optional. They do sell homogenized and unhomogenized milk. So even

though it is rBGH free and possibly from more conscientious husbandry

conditions than typical supermarket milk, I would still never consume

it again any more than I'd ever consume compromise milk again.

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> Since my local grocery store carries Organic Valley I have been

requesting

> that they carry the whole milk pasteurized version as opposed to the

> ultra-pasteurized one. If we all keep asking for it, maybe

eventually we'll

> get it!

>

>

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Your efforts could be better spent finding a direct farm source

instead of fussing with corporate economics to get bad milk instead

of worse milk... I'm sure you wouldn't have to drive more than an

hour or so to get farm-direct raw milk in that area.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

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> Hi Terry and Hi ,

> As I am still waiting on my soure for raw dairy I have found a good

milk

> from Hartzler family dairy in Brewster...I get it at our co-op in

> Youngstown...they do heat the milk to 145 for 30 minutes but what

can you

> do if you havent been able to get your raw yet? It is very

expensive and

> I payed 10.50 for a gallon(3.00) on bottle deposit...(2 half

agallon) OH

> I just wish I had my raw milk...we have a need for it soon...baby

on the

> way to a underweight mama! Maxine

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Instead of being absurdly ripped off for second-rate pasteurized ex-

milk, why not just eat other foods until your raw milk source kicks

in? You say you have a need for it, but the only need you have is

feed your baby your own milk. There are plenty of other foods you

and (eventually) your baby can eat besides milk that are at least as

nutritious and would be at least as effective in addressing whatever

issues you have in being underweight. With milk, it's better to

have the real thing or nothing.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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> I did find out that Organic Valley does make a whole milk that is

only

> pasteurized. It is hard to find. Request that your stores carry

it! We

> need to increase the demand for such products. For many, this is

the best

> alternative if you are unable (as I am so far) to obtain raw milk.

>

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No, I think the best alternative is to just eat foods other than

milk. I think it is crazy to put any effort into promoting " only

pasteurized " milk instead of real milk. It makes my head spin that

people would have this attitude. Have you read Ron Schmid's " The

Untold Story of Milk " ? I know where my activism and dollars are

going...

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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