New Member

[Guest guest]

Hi Alan,

I don't know the effect of marijuana on the liver but one of my

neighbors gave me a joint and it did wonders for my nausea and

especially my attitude. LOL

Because I am a truck driver, having to take drug tests, I hadn't

indulged in years. I don't think I could do it all the time anymore

but for the symptoms it's great.

The article Janet posted is something I've read before. I smoke it

like a cig dont hold it in or take a bigger toke than if it were a

cig. That's probably not much better but like I said, It does wonders

for my appetite.

Oh, and I also avoid talking to many people when I do because I tend

to sound pretty ditzy.

Just a light hearted reply and welcome to the group.

Patty

PS on the first question...If the test says you have hep c, I would

imagine you do but I have found that it certainly isn't a death

sentence. Just another bump in the road.

Some questions 1. Is that first test final if it

> comes back positive does that defintly mean I have hep c? 2. Can I

> take advil while Im waiting to see specialist? 3. Does smoking

> Marijuana have any effect on liver? Look forward to any info. Thx

in

> advance and God Bless all of you. alan

[Guest guest]

, Defintly see a lawyer and also write

letters to every newspaper in your area, call radio

and TV stations, speak with politicians and let them

all know what your situation is and what a raw deal

you got. All it takes is time and effort to do these

things. At best some action will be taken on your

behalf and at worse your employer will get some bad

publicity. Good luck and you are defintly in my

prayers. Alan

--- Janet

wrote: > ,

> Have to agree with Glenn on this one girl. Run not

> walk to the

> nearest lawyer to talk to him about this situtation.

> You are

> protected by the Americans with Disbilities Act of

> 1976(could be

> wrong on the year.Might have been 1975. LOL no

> matter in the right

> area of the year.) Amazing how when lawyers became

> involved how they

> will do some back peddling. Do not give up on this

> girl, you need

> that insurance for treatment and other things. Like

> I said you have

> a right to persue this with a lawyer.

> Lot of Luck,

> Janet

>

>

> > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this group and I just

> wanted to say

> > > " Hi " . I have had hepatitis c for 23 years. It

> started giving

> > > me problems for the last year. I didn't even

> know I had it

> > > until last year. I was diagnosed with Thyroid

> Cancer. Ever

> > > since my surgery I have had problems. I was also

> diagnosed

> > > with Bi-Polar disorder,High blood pressure and

> my joints

> > > ache all the time. I also itch a lot and my

> hands swell up

> > > really bad. I had my liver biopsy done Sept. 24

> and the

> > > results wasnt all that good. I was going to have

> treatment

> > > but my doctor said he wouldn't give me treatment

> until my

> > > doctor that is treating me for Bi-polar and

> depression gave

> > > him a letter stating I could handle it. But when

> my insurance

> > > papers got back to my job and they found out I

> had Hepatitis

> > > They fired me. So now I don't have insurance or

> a job. I can't

> > > even see a doctor at this point. The worst thing

> of all is my

> > > son is in the Navy and he was deployed in August

> and I haven't

> > > even told him any of this. Well I'm sorry, I

> didnt mean to go

> > > on and on. Thanks for letting me vent.It feels

> good to have

> > > somebody to talk to. Thanks Littlebit8861

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

, Janet, and all--

At 05:23 PM 11/30/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>While I'm not a lawyer, the question that pops out after reading

>about the employee who called your Dr. to seek further information

>about your illness is whether or not release of medical information

>occurred without your consent? Possible breach of patient/Dr.

>confidentiality?

Such good points from everyone. , I sure hope this works out for you!

I also know that when we're not feeling so great, it's hard to get up the

energy to fight something like this. If you're feeling like this, would

there be someone who can help you with the phone calls and letters? But

you will likely have to make the call to the attorney yourself--that's one

call you should make!

Jeanne

===--* My stars!

http://www.icon.net/~jeanneg/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

I echo every thing taht all these fine folks have said,I pray that God will ease

your burden

Jud 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you

stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy,

Jud 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory,

majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

D Ellison

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne and welcome to our group. I thought being diagnosed with

hepatitis C was a death sentence also but that isn't true. More people

die with the virus than because of it. You've even been abstaining from

alcohol which is the one of the best things that you can do. You can be

hopeful and you don't have any reason to give up.

suggested a liver biopsy. It is not painful and it's the only

way to know what the condition of your liver is. You might be

pleasantly surprised. You also need to know the genotype of the virus.

Overall, sustained response rates for the current treatment are in the

neighborhood of 50-60%. For genotype 2 it's 80% and that's only with 24

weeks of treatment.

As far as obtaining treatment is concerned, the pharmaceutical companies

offer compassionate care programs and they are always doing studies. I

got my second round of treatment completely free. Perhaps you can get

into a study when the new treatments get closer to FDA approval. Yes,

you'll be around.

Doug

> I was just diagnosed with Hepatitis C and I am a wreck. I had a

> bunch of blood tests done before gallbladder surgery and I came up

> positive for Hep C and then was given a more intensive test and it

> came up positive, too. I am 53, have always been in poor health, and

> now this. I am devastated. Since the gallbladder surgery, I have

> been having pain in my liver and extreme fatigue but I will not go to

> a Gastroenterologist because this is a virus and viruses are

> incurable. I went through enough complications and hell with the

> gallbladder ordeal (it was not simple), and I am just not going to

> subject myself to the agonizing pain of a liver biopsy and all the

> other horrid tests that they run. What's the point? All they can do

> is treat me with Interferon and Ribovirin which my low-income

> government issued insurance does not cover anyway. Plus there is

> only a 30% remission rate with those drugs and the virus usually

> comes back. I am old. I am not young and strong and not in good

> shape at all. I don't smoke or drink and I eat healthy foods. I

> also take Milkthistle and a few other Hep friendly herbal supplements.

> I figure that this is the best that I can do and hope that I have

> more than 5 years to live. The worst thing for me is that I have a

> 17 year old daughter that I worship and adore and I may not live to

> see her go through college, have her nursing career, and get married.

> That part breaks my heart and as I write this, I am crying. I am not

> ready to leave this earth just yet. I was hoping that I would at

> least make it for another 15-20 years but I guess not.

> I just need some hope and support right now. This has hit me like a

> ton of bricks and I don't know where to turn.

> Lynne

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne, and welcome. you're getting some good advice in the last

couple of posts. A lot of the medical problems you've experienced

can be a result of the Hep C virus. There are several programs run

by the med manufacturers that will pay for meds and there are also a

number of studies where all your meds may be provided for free.

This disease can kill you given enough time, but more people die

with HCV than from it. The virus only wins though if you give up!

I've done one full round of treatment and it didn't work for me, but

I know of a number who have beat the dragon. Many here have also

had their share of problems dealing with this and continue to battle

on. We all know how wering that battle can be and how easy it is to

let the weariness and dispair move in. Shake it off, look at that

17 year old daughter and plan on being around for her and her

children. We'll be here for you!

Kim

[Guest guest]

Dear Lynne:

When my wife was diagnosed with Hep C and advanced liver

deterioration last year, we were devasted as well. She also had

years of serious health problems. What we can share with you is that

we learned that Hep C is not a death sentence. And that the disease

is more common than most people think. And that if you have had a

history of health problems that many of your symptoms may have been

caused by Hep C.

Now for the good news:

My wife was terrified of the biopsy and instead found out it didn't

hurt worse than being pinched. In fact, the worst part was that she

couldn't have any food or water before the procedure and that a

backup in surgery ended up with her spending about 7 hours in the

hospital for a 5 minute procedure. By the time we got home, she was

exhausted and ravenous. Post Op she had a slight ache the next day

but it did not require pain medicine or activity restrictions.

As I understand it, the biopsy is the only way you can definitely

assess your liver's health. You may find out that it is in better

condition than you expect and that treatment is not advised.

The side effects after 5 weeks of treatment are unpleasant- extreme

exhaustion, insomnia, nausea etc. But, like you, she has children to

live for and decided to try the treatment anyway even though with

her genotype she has only a 50% chance of it working.

Lastly, we were told by her doctor that if she cannot be cured,

she " might " eventually die from liver failure, cancer or related

complications but that it is just as likely that she'll die from

natural causes. We were clearly told it was not a death sentence and

believe me, we pressed several doctors on this very issue.

We try to take it one week at a time and come to this list often for

advice.

Hang in there and don't give up!

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony and Welcome. Don't fret over your past lifestyle and drinking. It is

pretty inportant that you stop drinking alcohol now. And as for dating......Be

honest. A date doesn't have to mean sex. And there are plenty of understanding

women who are willing to learn about this disease and you might even find one

who's willing to stick with you. If you havent found HCVAdvocate yet go there

and find Peppermint Patty's FAQ. It's at www.HCVAdvocate.org And Dr. Koop, our

x-surgeon general has a great site at www.epidemic.org so stop freaking,

there's no need.........your friend......ric

I am that, you are that, all this is that, and that's all there is.

Deepak Chopra

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 1:52:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tigerhawksoars@... writes:

I was a hippie in 1968 and 1969. I'm not ashamed of it. It's a part of my

life's experiences; a part of who I am. I've not been a hippie or taken any

drugs since then. It's how I got hepatitis C, but I'm still not ashamed of it,

nor will I ever be. It was a learning experience.

I've had hepatitis C for 35 years. I've had two biopsies, four years apart.

Both showed stage 1, grade 1. No progression. Dr. from

Minneapolis said there are two things that account for that: the fact that I

have

never been a drinker, and my genes.

My genotype is 1b. He recommends that I don't try treatment, and from my

research, I agree with him. They look at your age, how long you've had it, your

genotype, whether you also have fatty liver, and a few other considerations.

I certainly have time to wait for a better treatment to come along. Doc says

I will die with Hep C, not of it. I'm inclined to agree with him. Not that

I'm afraid to die. Far from it. I've made my peace with death a long time ago

and find that there are far worse things in life than death.

I live in MInnesota and have 4 kids, ages 33, 31, 25 and 15. All of them

have been tested for hepatitis C and none of them have it. My ex-husband had it

(the father of the first two kids), but he cleared. We didn't get it from

each other; we had different genotypes.

I used to go to a Hep C support group here in the Twin Cities called

LiverHope, but I don't go anymore. I had also attended the annual Minnesota

HepFest

for three years in a row, but will not ever go again because of a particular

man who attends them who is a pedophile and was grooming my son, when he was 12,

for seduction. LiverHope would not tell him he couldn't come anymore, so

it's me who doesn't go, instead, as both I and my son feel very uncomfortable

when he shows up. I think that the safety of kids should come before feeling

sorry for this man simply because he, too, has hepatitis C.

My symptoms are getting worse. The severity of hepatitis C symptoms has

little to do with the severity of the liver disease. The enzyme level also has

little to do with the severity of the disease. I've know people with high ALT's

and AST's with very little liver damange, and I've seen people in stage 4

with low enzyme levels. Everyone is different.

The symptoms I present include lots of muscle and joint pain, fatigue, itchy

skin and brain fog. The rheumatologist says I also have fibromyalgia, most

likely brought on by the hep C virus. Some doctors are now saying that everyone

who presents with fibromyalgia ought to be test for hep C. I think it's a

good idea.

I'm trying to continue working until I either retire (8 years), or at least

until my last child at home is 18 and graduated from high school. He's 15 now.

I can't afford to go on disability while I still have a child at home to

support.

I used to run an online support group, but I dropped it in order to spend

more time in my other groups and on educating people on how to keep their kids

safe from unscrupulous people. I like to keep my mind on other things besides

this virus. I refuse to allow it to control my life. I'm sure if I were in

stage 3 or 4 liver disease, I would give it a much higher priority. I've done a

lot of research on it until I grew tired of it. Still, it's nice to talk to

others now and then who also have it.

TigerHawk

Ric wrote:

on second thought, I don't think those are bad names!. You can laugh now

Bernice. Laugh with us, please.

Birth and Death are the two noblest expressions of bravery. -

---Kahlil Gibran

For what is it to die, But to stand in the sun and melt into the wind? And

when the Earth has claimed our limbs, Then we shall truly dance.

--Kahlil Gibran

[Guest guest]

Dr. is my hepatologist.

Doug

TigerHawk wrote:

>Dr. from Minneapolis said there are two things that account for

that: the fact that I have never been a drinker, and my genes.

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. has the reputation of being the best gastroenterologist in the

Upper Midwest. I'm quite pleased with his knowledge, his expertise, and

especially his ability to do a biopsy. He could use a bit of help with his

bedside manner, but I can forgive him for that because of his high abilities as

a gastroenterologist.

Colleen

Doug Nicholson wrote:

Dr. is my hepatologist.

Doug

TigerHawk wrote:

>Dr. from Minneapolis said there are two things that account for

that: the fact that I have never been a drinker, and my genes.

>

It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the

support you need with us.

If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click

the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

Happy Posting

[Guest guest]

How cool! What a small world!

anne

Re: New Member

Dr. is my hepatologist.

Doug

TigerHawk wrote:

>Dr. from Minneapolis said there are two things that account for

that: the fact that I have never been a drinker, and my genes.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list!

Picella

love4honor wrote:

>Hi. I'm new to the group. I'm a teacher through NWFS, and also am the

>NFP Coordinator for the Diocese of Richmond (VA). NFP is near and

>dear to my heart for many reasons, not the least of which is that it

>played a significant role in my conversion to Catholicism just four

>years ago. =)

>

>I live in southern VA with my husband and three children.

>Unfortunately, there has been virtually no interest in NFP here

>(Roanoke area); I've given 6 talks in the last six months to

>Catholic, Protestant, and secular audiences with 5 of them being total

>no-shows. But there are a dozen of us praying and fasting so I think

>it's only a matter of time.

>

>I'll be reading through all the messages to see what's been

>happening. I already recognize some of your names! Damon, I just

>read your article about the medical symposium you put on. I have to

>tell you it sounded AWESOME!!!

>

>In Christ,

>Misty Mealey

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to NFP in Va!

It is slowly growing up here at the Northern end of the Shenandoah

Valley.

Hang in there. Word of mouth is powerful.

, MD (NFP Medical Consultant)

Residency Director

VCU/Shanendoah Valley Family Practice Residency

Front Royal and Winchester, VA

new member

Hi. I'm new to the group. I'm a teacher through NWFS, and also am the

NFP Coordinator for the Diocese of Richmond (VA). NFP is near and

dear to my heart for many reasons, not the least of which is that it

played a significant role in my conversion to Catholicism just four

years ago. =)

I live in southern VA with my husband and three children.

Unfortunately, there has been virtually no interest in NFP here

(Roanoke area); I've given 6 talks in the last six months to

Catholic, Protestant, and secular audiences with 5 of them being total

no-shows. But there are a dozen of us praying and fasting so I think

it's only a matter of time.

I'll be reading through all the messages to see what's been

happening. I already recognize some of your names! Damon, I just

read your article about the medical symposium you put on. I have to

tell you it sounded AWESOME!!!

In Christ,

Misty Mealey

[Guest guest]

,

Welcome! Could you explain a little

more about what the Fertility Awareness Method is and how it is alike and

different from the other methods of NFP.

Thanks!

Paige

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of sarah bly

Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005

6:03 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: new

member

Hello

everyone. My name is Bly. I am a homebirth midwife (working

as an assistant) and I teach the Fertility Awareness Method. I have

taught in my community (Ashland, Oregon) and in Northern California

for the last several years. I have practiced it for 12 years. I

LOVE to teach FAM/NFP and am really excited to begin networking with other

teachers to stay up to date in my teaching. My areas of special

interest are: FAM and breastfeeding and teaching to young women just beginning

to menstruate. I don't spend a huge amount of time on the internet but

will look forward to communing with you all.

[Guest guest]

,

Welcome! Could you explain a little

more about what the Fertility Awareness Method is and how it is alike and

different from the other methods of NFP.

Thanks!

Paige

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of sarah bly

Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005

6:03 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: new

member

Hello

everyone. My name is Bly. I am a homebirth midwife (working

as an assistant) and I teach the Fertility Awareness Method. I have

taught in my community (Ashland, Oregon) and in Northern California

for the last several years. I have practiced it for 12 years. I

LOVE to teach FAM/NFP and am really excited to begin networking with other

teachers to stay up to date in my teaching. My areas of special

interest are: FAM and breastfeeding and teaching to young women just beginning

to menstruate. I don't spend a huge amount of time on the internet but

will look forward to communing with you all.

[Guest guest]

As a Billings teacher, when working with couples, I always go over the

Church teaching on the issue of sexuality. I work with many young

evangelical couples who are engaged to be married. Many see this teaching

as a breath of fresh air. If the couples are mature, the slides from BOMA

on this topic often spark additional questions and discussion about what the

Church teaches. In the couples that I have worked with, there have been

instances where chaste behavior has not occurred. And I have discussed this

with the couples. I firmly believe that part of the role of being a

Billings teacher is teaching the philosophy behind the method and not just

the method itself. It has been my experience that if a couple does not

believe firmly in the philosophy, then over time they will stop practicing

NFP.

Colton

>

>Message: 4

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:29:14 -0700

>

>Subject: RE: Re: new member

>

>The CrM training is quite specific on this issue, and it is addressed in

>the

>instruction of clients as well....I do believe all of the major models do

>consider this part of the training.....

>

>Sheila St.

>Executive Director

>California Association of Natural Family Planning

>1217 Tyler St.

>Salinas, Ca. 93906

>1-877-33-CANFP

>www.canfp.org

> Re: new member

> >

> > Dear ,

> > Since the mid-1970s, the Fertility Awareness Method has been

>distinguished from Natural Family Planning by the FAM acceptance of

>orgasmic

>sexual activities during the fertile time as a way to avoid abstinence.

>There has been an assumption in the NFP movement that NFP meant " chaste

>NFP "

>in which couples would abstain from all activity that resulted in orgasm.

> > One leader in the FAM movement openly recommended oral-genital

>copulation during the fertile time. Masturbation, whether mutual or

>solitary, would be accepted by FAM, but those who teach NFP are called to

>advise couples to avoid such unchaste behavior.

> > There are two classes of questions concerning these matters.

> > 1) Is the above description of the FAM still accurate? Also, is

>there

>any organization or association that can speak for teachers of the FAM?

> >

> > 2) In fact, do teachers of NFP regard themselves as called to teach

>chaste NFP? Do NFP teachers, in their regular course of instruction,

>systematically point out to their clients that it is immoral to engage in

>masturbation, whether mutual of solitary, or in oral sodomy? Do the

>principal NFP teaching organizations have such teaching built into their

>regular course of instruction?

> >

> > To my fellow NFP teachers, I suggest that if you think that all NFP

>couples are automatically chaste and do not engage in these activities, you

>are in a dream world. Steve Wood recently dared to reaffirm traditional

>Christian teaching against masturbation, and he was challenged by some who

>engaged in such practices during the fertile time.

> >

> > F. Kippley

> > President

> > NFP International

> > nfpandmore@...

> >

> >

> > new member

> >

> >

> > Hello everyone. My name is Bly. I am a homebirth midwife

>(working as an assistant) and I teach the Fertility Awareness Method. I

>have taught in my community (Ashland, Oregon) and in Northern California

>for

>the last several years. I have practiced it for 12 years. I LOVE to teach

>FAM/NFP and am really excited to begin networking with other teachers to

>stay up to date in my teaching. My areas of special interest are: FAM and

>breastfeeding and teaching to young women just beginning to menstruate. I

>don't spend a huge amount of time on the internet but will look forward to

>communing with you all.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So you finally figured out the stinkin' BIP then...

Hope you and yours are doing well .

That is good work you are doing.

God Bless!

Santi

Re: new member

> >

> > Dear ,

> > Since the mid-1970s, the Fertility Awareness Method has been

>distinguished from Natural Family Planning by the FAM acceptance of

>orgasmic

>sexual activities during the fertile time as a way to avoid abstinence.

>There has been an assumption in the NFP movement that NFP meant " chaste

>NFP "

>in which couples would abstain from all activity that resulted in orgasm.

> > One leader in the FAM movement openly recommended oral-genital

>copulation during the fertile time. Masturbation, whether mutual or

>solitary, would be accepted by FAM, but those who teach NFP are called to

>advise couples to avoid such unchaste behavior.

> > There are two classes of questions concerning these matters.

> > 1) Is the above description of the FAM still accurate? Also, is

>there

>any organization or association that can speak for teachers of the FAM?

> >

> > 2) In fact, do teachers of NFP regard themselves as called to teach

>chaste NFP? Do NFP teachers, in their regular course of instruction,

>systematically point out to their clients that it is immoral to engage in

>masturbation, whether mutual of solitary, or in oral sodomy? Do the

>principal NFP teaching organizations have such teaching built into their

>regular course of instruction?

> >

> > To my fellow NFP teachers, I suggest that if you think that all NFP

>couples are automatically chaste and do not engage in these activities, you

>are in a dream world. Steve Wood recently dared to reaffirm traditional

>Christian teaching against masturbation, and he was challenged by some who

>engaged in such practices during the fertile time.

> >

> > F. Kippley

> > President

> > NFP International

> > nfpandmore@...

> >

> >

> > new member

> >

> >

> > Hello everyone. My name is Bly. I am a homebirth midwife

>(working as an assistant) and I teach the Fertility Awareness Method. I

>have taught in my community (Ashland, Oregon) and in Northern California

>for

>the last several years. I have practiced it for 12 years. I LOVE to teach

>FAM/NFP and am really excited to begin networking with other teachers to

>stay up to date in my teaching. My areas of special interest are: FAM and

>breastfeeding and teaching to young women just beginning to menstruate. I

>don't spend a huge amount of time on the internet but will look forward to

>communing with you all.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes. the

use of barriers at fertile time is referred to as BAFTing and is not acceptable

as far as I am concerned within the guidelines for Catholic taught NFP. Les Ruppersberger, D.O.

Re:

new member

I would be

extremely interested in the answer to 's first question

about the FAM.

Does anyone know? I ask because I tried unsuccessfully

to lobby for the

removal of mention of barriers with NFP at our state

abortion consent

website. I maintained that this might be acceptable in

the FAM but not

NFP. I would still like to work on getting it removed,

but I dont' want

to misconstrue the stand of FAM either.

Thanks,

kristina

johannes

F. Kippley

wrote:

> Dear ,

>

Since the mid-1970s, the Fertility Awareness Method has been

>

distinguished from Natural Family Planning by the FAM acceptance of

> orgasmic

sexual activities during the fertile time as a way to avoid

>

abstinence. There has been an assumption in the NFP movement that NFP

> meant

" chaste NFP " in which couples would abstain from all activity that

> resulted in

orgasm.

>

One leader in the FAM movement openly recommended oral-genital

> copulation

during the fertile time. Masturbation, whether mutual or

> solitary,

would be accepted by FAM, but those who teach NFP are called

> to advise

couples to avoid such unchaste behavior.

>

There are two classes of questions concerning these matters.

>

1) Is the above description of the FAM still accurate? Also, is

> there any

organization or association that can speak for teachers of the

> FAM?

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr Greene,

Welcome! I’m very glad to see

another OBGYN join. It’s a great group here.

If you haven’t seen it, the book:

Physicians Healed, edited by Cleta Hartman, is a very good read for physicians

going through this.

, MD

VCU/Shenandoah Valley Family Practice

Residency

Front Royal, VA

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of greenedad@...

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005

8:54 AM

To:

nfpprofessionals

Subject: New

Member

NFP Professionals Group,

I heard about the group & joined last week. I am an

Ob/Gyn physician that just recently " converted " my practice to

" NFP-only " after 10 years of private practice. Having this

forum to interact with you all is such a fantastic opprotunity to keep learning

with like minded individuals. I am most grateful for it.

Looking forward to corresponding with you,

Greene,MD

Rochester, MI

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Hanna Klaus, M.D., Director, NFP Center of Washington, D.C. and the Teen STAR Program

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NFP Professionals Group,

I heard about the group & joined last week. I am an Ob/Gyn physician that just recently "converted" my practice to "NFP-only" after 10 years of private practice. Having this forum to interact with you all is such a fantastic opprotunity to keep learning with like minded individuals. I am most grateful for it.

Looking forward to corresponding with you,

Greene,MD

Rochester, MI

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Hello All, Janet Kistler here. For 24 years I was the Director of the Phoenix Natural Family Planning Center in Phoenix, AZ. In 1998 we moved to Virginia, where I went to work at the Diocesan Development Program for NFP with Theresa Notare. After six years, I took a position as Coordinator of the Natural Family Planning and Marriage Preparation Programs at the Archdiocese of Washington, DC. I have been a Sympto-Thermal instructor and trainer of educators for over thirty years and am delighted to be able to stay in touch since our relocation to Florida. I still remain a member of the National Advisory Board for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops for NFP and teach clients here in the Panama City, FL area. I look forward to being able to make a contribution to the list and to enrichment from all of you. Regards.

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Knowledge of the body, yes you are right (and welcome by the way!), but even more important is the benefit of becoming aware of the design of the body and the human ecology of fertility vis-a-vis sexuality, and how contraception and sterilization violate this ecology and in the process harm things far more important even than health, if such can be imagined! They harm as well the deeply important human needs, spiritual, existential, and moral, negatively therefore affecting relationships between mother and child, between husband and wife, between both and God, etc., i.e., relationships that form the very foundation of civil society and secure human existence.

Sincerely yours,

Dominic M. Pedulla MD, FACC, CNFPMC, ABVM, ACPh

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I am a certified BOM instructor and Illinois licensed

teacher who is attempting to teach NFP as an

educational consulting business. I am interested in

promoting NFP as basic health education in addition to

its usefulness as an effective and holistic method of

family planning.

I look forward to learning more about women's health

issues, (the side effects of) contraception,

sterilization, and IVF/ART.

If anyone else is having success promoting NFP to

churches/synagogues/mosques, community action

agencies, or to GP's, OB/GYN's, and the general public

I'd like to hear what has worked for you (and what has

not). It has been slow going so far, but I believe

this is a worthwhile pursuit because this NFP provides

knowledge of her body every woman ought to know!

Thank you for your input,

DeLathouwer, CFC

belath

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You may find it helpful to become familiar with the website of NFP International, www.NFPandmore.org. In the home page "And more" section, check out "Not Just for Catholics" and "Understanding Humanae Vitae." Even atheists should at least know the contents of these articles. Come back in a month and read an article dealing with the Sexual Revolution. These may help in your outreach efforts.

In all these efforts it is important to remember the words of Pope Benedict XVI in his recent book, Jesus of Nazareth. "The organ for seeing God is the heart. The intellect alone is not enough" (p. 92).

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I am a certified BOM instructor and Illinois licensedteacher who is attempting to teach NFP as aneducational consulting business. I am interested inpromoting NFP as basic health education in addition toits usefulness as an effective and holistic method offamily planning.I look forward to learning more about women's healthissues, (the side effects of) contraception,sterilization, and IVF/ART.If anyone else is having success promoting NFP tochurches/synagogues/mosques, community actionagencies, or to GP's, OB/GYN's, and the general publicI'd like to hear what has worked for you (and what hasnot). It has been slow going so far, but I believethis is a worthwhile pursuit because this NFP providesknowledge of her body every woman ought to know!Thank you for your input, DeLathouwer, CFCbelath __________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs