hi

[Guest guest]

Welcome back, Sue! I *knew* I remembered that e mail address from before!

--------Jeanine

[OBnurses] Hi

Im actually not new to this list, I switched my internet provider and cut off the old and for the life of me could not figure out how to make the email change...

[Guest guest]

Hi Rick,

Glad you found us. We are a humble little group here that will help

in any way we can. I know the feeling of having too much to do. We

have a 7 year old daughter who has been a little trooper through this

treatment. She make sure Momma has a glass of icy cold water to drink

at my elbow at all times. She likes it when Momma drinks the water

because it make my sides not so bad.

I will see you Rick in 2053 as I have a whole lot of living to do.

LOL

Love

Janet

Owner_Moderator

Hepatitis_C_Central

> Hello group. I was diagnosed with Hep C on May 5th with a count

of

> 12.5 Mil. I'm OK with it, of course I just had a heart attack on

the

> 14th so I'm just a little preoccupied. I had a massive blood

> transfusion in the Army in 1973. That's about the only way I think

I

> could have gotten it. Doesn't matter now though, I just have to

keep

> my head up, trudge on through treatment. I have far to much to do

and

> see the rest of life than to have some little freakin' bug get me

> down. Besides, the Lions haven't won the Superbowl yet and I have

to

> stick around for that. So I'll see you in what? 2027?

[Guest guest]

I like to distinguish between Vietnam era vets (like you and me) and Vietnam

vets (those who served there in the war).

Doug

>

> Hi Doug,

> That's funny that you mentioned that. I am also

> considered a Viet Nam vet and I didn't serve there

> either. But I did get all those vaccines with the air

> gun that everyone else also got. Any relation????

> I know I got mine from one of several needlesticks

> (and I only reported one. I'm a nurse)

> Welcome Rick! I " m really new to the group also. Just

> diagnosed about 2 weeks ago and still waiting on viral

> load and genotype (maybe this week). I'm ready to kick

> this hcv in the butt.

> Peace!

> judy (jp)

[Guest guest]

What's the best way to test for ammonia levels? I have serious brain fog but

am not constipated

[Guest guest]

If your sister's hep c is being detected again, she should do more

tests. My brother was " virus undetectable " for 1 1/2 years and it

then came back. He is currently on his second time around for tx.

I'm on my first. As for going to the States, I don't have an answer

for you, but I would contact immigration (both countries) and find

out what the policies/protocol for this situation would be. Good

luck to your sister.

Nick

> Hi

> I need some help urgently for my sister..

> she was diagnosed with Hep C 2 yrs ago but was able to

> go on a program at one of our major hospitals

> She had the drugs interferon and riboviron and

> apparently she had got rid of it.. Her dilemma is now she is

> wanting to move to the US where her fiancee lives and she is so

> scared that immigration wont allow her to..As her blood test

comes

> up saying its been detected still.. Does anyone know

> what will happen or has anyone ever tried to immigrate with this

> illness.. All help would be gladly apprecitaed... Thanx's

[Guest guest]

Could we have that in English? (not familiar with medical terms)

Bob Drury

[Guest guest]

Sometimes Yahoo gets the hiccoughs quite chronically and who knows what it does

with some posts. You could try having a look through the Hep C archives.

anne

Re: Re: hi

In a message dated 6/7/2004 8:46:35 PM Central Standard Time,

richobbs1@... writes:

Dear Cheryl, you must have missed the responses that you did get. I

sent one myself........your friend......ric

I havent gotten any responses at all. Dont know where the post are going.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

At 01:42 AM 6/8/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>

> > >LOL funny Doug

> > > Can't we all just get along? Rodney King. LA 1988

> >

> > Something you might consider: your political/religious view is not

>the only

> > one that exists. We could probably all " get along " better if SOME

>of us

> > would quit taking swipes at values others of us consider important.

> >

> > Jeanne

>Dear Jeanne, don't you also think your remarks about kerry and allah

>were a 'swipe' too? your being a moderator doesn't give you

>the 'right' either

>again: can't we all just get along? Rodney King, LA 1991

No, I don't think it was. There are a group of fanatic Muslims who want to

make the entire world pray to Allah. I am talking about the Wahabees, the

Taliban, and the AlQaeda, not the moderates. The Taliban, when they were

running their terroristic theocracy in Afghanistan, prohibited MUSIC, fer

cryin' out loud. Wouldn't you rather be able to choose your form of

worship, or even to choose whether to worship at all? I repeat: since I am

not Muslim, I do not want to be forced to pray to Allah. Anyone who wants

to, be my guest, but that is not my choice. (Nor am I insisting anyone

adopt my personal faith--heaven forbid. God loves all His children, no

matter which name they call in prayer.)

As for your question, yes, we can all get along, as long as we respect our

differences. One way of respecting others' differences might be to refrain

from making insulting remarks on those topics. I do not plan on saying

anything further on this publicly. I hope it becomes a list-wide trend.

Jeanne

===--* My stars!

http://users.eaokonline.com/~vcl20001/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/healingcircle2/

[Guest guest]

I think we should all go to Janet's house and play musical chairs!

Howd the party go?

[Guest guest]

Who'll be the donkey?? I wanna be first to try and pin the tail! ;-)

anne

hi

I think we should all go to Janet's house and play musical chairs!

Howd the party go?

[Guest guest]

Ric,

That was a great way to start the day! Is it of your own creation? Peace.

Bob Drury

[Guest guest]

Hi ric and everyone. Did anyone find that CBS article (or medical

contribution) just a little short of some important information, or just a

little

misleading, or just a little stigmatizing when it comes to HCV?

Here it is again.

(CBS) It's estimated that up to a third of all Americans will be infected

with a form of hepatitis in their lifetimes. Despite its prevalence, little is

know about the disease.

So Saturday Early Show medical contributor Dr. Mallika Marshall offers advice

on how to avoid it.

Hepatitis is basically inflammation of the liver, which over time can lead to

scar tissue or something called cirrhosis, liver failure and even liver

cancer.

There are several types of hepatitis including A, B and C. These are all

types of viral illnesses, Dr. Marshall says, though other things, such as

alcohol

poisoning, can cause hepatitis.

With regards to viral hepatitis, Hepatitis A is the least serious and is

quite common, affecting 180,000 Americans each year. It is generally passed on

by

eating food or drinking water that's been contaminated with human waste.

Hepatitis B and C are more serious, and are generally spread though bodily

fluids such as with unprotected sex, sharing needles or through contaminated

blood products.

The following are the common symptoms for hepatitis:

Fever

Fatigue

Abdominal Pain

Poor Appetite

Jaundice – Yellowing of the eyes and skin

===============================

Maybe I've got a case of HCV-irritability right now , or maybe I read

" news stories " with a hyper-critical eye when it comes to HCV, or maybe (since

I'm sitting here with HCV) I'm just particularly syn, sin, (sh** -- I can't even

spell the word) SENSITIVE about what I think is misleading information.

Which ever one it is -- I'm hung up on the fact that HCV is not " generally

spread through bodily fluids " (which includes blood, AND semen, vaginal

secretions,

saliva, tears) as the CBS medical contributor says it is. HCV is spread

through direct contact with contaminated blood -- period.

If someone was getting ready to take me out for a romantic 4th of July

weekend and had read that article (and I had already discussed with them that I

was

HCV+ and that the chances of them contracting it were almost zero% if there

was no blood exchange between us), I think that article would pretty much put

a big damper on any thoughts of any fireworks display after the fireworks

display .

No big, romantic plans anyhow -- lol -- so I guess I can sit here and find

fault with CBS.

Jets

[Guest guest]

Hi Ric -- yes it is rather disgusting to be sitting here on July 4th weekend,

realizing I've become comfotable with the thoughts of going to bed by 10 p.m.

versus looking forward to possibly going out with someone who's interested in

me and who I might be interested in if I didn't have to tell " uh... we need

to talk about something before we uh... uh ... you see I've got this thing

called HCV, and we need to make sure ..... "

My partners didn't get it either, to my knowledge. I know that my partner of

the last six years didn't contract it, and my exhusband didn't contract it,

nor did my son, who was most likely born to an HCV + mom in 81 (me), and who

lived with me for 20 years. I know daggone well there were times we all used

the same nail clippers and probably the same razor. That gives me some

assurance that it is not easily transmitted. (But explaining that to someone

is a

little bit awkward). Just adjusting here.

Have a great 4th! Maybe tomorrow night I'll step outside around dark, put

two sparklers in each hand, light 'em, and then run around some -- like I was a

kid again

Jets

In a message dated 7/3/2004 9:25:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

richobbs1@... writes:

> Yes Jets, it's pretty digusting.. I suppose I should say the chance is

> there. There have been studies confirming the presence of the virus in tears,

> semen (oh no the S word )., mouth swabs. But really, all of these could have

> been contaminated with blood, or false positives. All I can say is none of my

> mates ever caught it from me. The search for the truth is still going

> on.........your friend......ric

>

>

> QUESTION: Are we not men?

> ANSWER: We are DEVO

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/2004 7:43:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kanga2@... writes:

Not so sure about any pressure on our scientists but I must admit to being

very ignorant of our respective politicians because all things political bore me

to tears. However, what I have noticed is that in the scientific community

there is a real competitive streak that comes down to who can do it/cure

it/learn more about it and publish their findings first. This, on the whole,

has to

be a good thing.

anne

hi

very good anne. Just the article that was on my mind. Now take it a

step further........ <snip>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/2004 10:25:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jetsliver@... writes:

Hi Ric -- yes it is rather disgusting to be sitting here on July 4th weekend,

realizing I've become comfotable with the thoughts of going to bed by 10 p.m.

versus looking forward to possibly going out with someone who's interested in

me and who I might be interested in if I didn't have to tell " uh... we need

to talk about something before we uh... uh ... you see I've got this thing

called HCV, and we need to make sure ..... "

My partners didn't get it either, to my knowledge. I know that my partner of

the last six years didn't contract it, and my exhusband didn't contract it,

nor did my son, who was most likely born to an HCV + mom in 81 (me), and who

lived with me for 20 years. I know daggone well there were times we all used

the same nail clippers and probably the same razor. That gives me some

assurance that it is not easily transmitted. (But explaining that to

someone is a

little bit awkward). Just adjusting here.

Have a great 4th! Maybe tomorrow night I'll step outside around dark, put

two sparklers in each hand, light 'em, and then run around some -- like I was

a

kid again

Jets

In a message dated 7/3/2004 9:25:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

richobbs1@... writes:

> Yes Jets, it's pretty digusting.. I suppose I should say the chance is

> there. There have been studies confirming the presence of the virus in

tears,

> semen (oh no the S word )., mouth swabs. But really, all of these could

have

> been contaminated with blood, or false positives. All I can say is none of

my

> mates ever caught it from me. The search for the truth is still going

> on.........your friend......ric

>

>

> QUESTION: Are we not men?

> ANSWER: We are DEVO

>

[Guest guest]

That's a great article Ric. Thanks!

anne

cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/02/earlyshow/saturday/main627271.shtml

It's estimated that up to a third of all

Americans will be infected with a form of hepatitis in

their lifetimes. Despite its prevalence, little is

know about the disease. ......

[Guest guest]

Not so sure about any pressure on our scientists but I must admit to being very

ignorant of our respective politicians because all things political bore me to

tears. However, what I have noticed is that in the scientific community there

is a real competitive streak that comes down to who can do it/cure it/learn more

about it and publish their findings first. This, on the whole, has to be a good

thing.

anne

hi

very good anne. Just the article that was on my mind. Now take it a step

further........ <snip>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigerhawksoars@... writes:

d

i know Virginia law dont tell me i cat do it. i will do it if i have to tell

the prosecutor if he does not do it he is aiding and abiding

you dont know me i fight for what is right

No offense, you are not dumb just a little hangover. Right?

lets see this is how it goes

any blood is all it takes. that is all. and he is on a recording telling me

that oh bet the way when i kissed you my gums were bleeding. i know i have

hepatitis, i want to take you out in death

and i qote,i knew you would be in danger of getting it

How that mason?

bernice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigerhawksoars@... writes:

d

i know Virginia law dont tell me i cat do it. i will do it if i have to tell

the prosecutor if he does not do it he is aiding and abiding

you dont know me i fight for what is right

No offense, you are not dumb just a little hangover. Right?

lets see this is how it goes

any blood is all it takes. that is all. and he is on a recording telling me

that oh bet the way when i kissed you my gums were bleeding. i know i have

hepatitis, i want to take you out in death

and i qote,i knew you would be in danger of getting it

How that mason?

bernice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigerhawksoars@... writes:

Bwilson0404@... wrote:

keep joking

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigerhawksoars@... writes:

Bwilson0404@... wrote:

keep joking

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2004 2:21:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

da_shoe@... writes:

Here are some sources you should find more credible than Dean

(although he is credible as a doctor, as far as I am concerned!):

Stem Cell Scientists Send Bush Five Statements For Responsible Support

The International Society for Stem Cell Research, an academic community of

stem cell scientists, has issued five principals for responsible support and

regulation of the field of human stem cell research in a letter to U.S.

President

Bush.

The letter was created as an outcome of ISSCR’s second annual meeting, which

drew more than 1,400 researchers from 29 countries to Boston last week to

present and discuss the latest findings on stem cells of all types. Sen. Arlen

Specter opened the meeting with an address in which he outlined his support for

stem cell research and its potential benefits and his efforts to increase

available federal funding for research.

The five principles contained in the ISSCR letter to President Bush were

vetted and approved by meeting participants during the ISSCR “Town Hall

Meetingâ€:

Research on all types of stem cells warrants increased Federal funding.

Federal funding should be allowed for human embryonic stem cell lines derived

from IVF blastocysts that would otherwise be destroyed, following appropriate

informed consent and donation practices.

The derivation of new human pluripotent stem cell lines by nuclear transfer

should be supported and publicly funded.

The development of appropriate regulation of research is important, and

should be developed by government officials, scientists, ethicists and others

working together.

Human reproductive cloning should be prohibited.

ISSCR has issued the letter to add the voice of those within the field of

stem cell research to the broad-based calls for increased support for their

work:

private citizens, elected officials scientific organizations, patient

advocacy groups and others. ISSCR plans to send comparable letters to government

leaders around the world.

Adapted from the following source: International Society for Stem Cell

Research

_________________________________________________________

Three Out Of Four Americans Support Reagan’s Call For More Stem Cell

Research

Strong Support for Research Seen Among Conservatives, Independents and

Fundamentalists

By a decisive margin of 74-21 percent, Americans support former First Lady

Reagan’s call for the Bush White House to lift restrictions on stem cell

research in order to look for possible treatments for the Alzheimer’s disease

that afflicted former President Reagan prior to his recent death, as

well as the other grave illnesses—including diabetes, Parkinson’s, heart

disease

and multiple sclerosis—that are suffered by millions of other Americans,

according to a new survey conducted by Opinion Research Corporation (ORC) on

behalf of the Results for America (RFA) project of the nonprofit and nonpartisan

Civil Society Institute.

The first opinion survey of public attitudes about stem cell research to be

conducted since the death of President Reagan also found that 72 percent of

Americans say they are more likely in the wake of Reagan’s passing to support

stem cell research, including 76 percent of moderates, 64 percent of

conservatives and 62 percent of fundamentalist or evangelical Christians. Also,

Reagan’s clout in the national stem cell debate appears to have risen sharply,

with 80 percent of Americans viewing her as credible on the issue, up from 65

percent in a separate survey conducted during

KEY FINDINGS

A strong majority of Americans support Reagan's call for the Bush

White House to lift restrictions on stem cell research that might help to find

cures for such ailments as the Alzheimer's disease that afflicted the recently

deceased President Reagan, as well as other illnesses such as diabetes,

Parkinson’s, heart disease and multiple sclerosis.

The death of Reagan is boosting support for stem cell research.

Reagan's clout on stem cell research issues appears to be much

greater since the death of her husband.

Overall support for stem cell research is continuing its steady pattern of

growth.

Support for stem cell research is rapidly approaching bipartisan status

Nearly three in four Americans support expanded federal support for stem

cell research.

Nearly all Americans (95 percent) were aware of the fact that President

Reagan was afflicted with Alzheimer's disease prior to his death.

Adapted from the following source: Results for America

(http://www.ResultsforAmerica.org)

________________________________________________________

58 Senators Call On President Bush To Expand Policy That Limits Federal

Funding Of Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Fifty-eight U.S. Senators have written a letter to President W. Bush

calling on him to change our nation's policy on federal funding for scientific

research on embryonic stem cells, which may hold the potential for cures to

some of the most deadly and debilitating diseases—including Alzheimer's,

Parkinson's, diabetes, cancer and multiple sclerosis.

“This issue is especially poignant given President Reagan's passing,â€

Senator Feinstein said. “Embryonic stem cell research might hold the key to a

cure

for Alzheimer's and other terrible diseases. This is why we must do everything

in our power to support this research and give hope to the millions of

Americans who suffer today.â€

The letter was originated by Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Orrin

Hatch (R-UT), Kennedy (D-MA), Arlen Specter (R-PA), and Tom Harkin

(D-IA),

the authors of legislation to ban human reproductive cloning, but allow

nuclear transplantation research to continue under strict federal guidelines.

This legislation establishes a clear divide between nuclear transplantation

research, used only to produce embryonic stem cells—and human reproductive

cloning, which is unethical and immoral and should never be allowed. Embryonic

stem cell research has the potential to save millions of lives—and improve the

quality of life for millions more.

In the summer of 2001, President Bush announced a policy that limits federal

funding for research on stem cell lines derived by August 9, 2001. While it

originally appeared that 78 lines would be available for research under the

policy, only 19 lines are now available to researchers, and these lines may not

be

suitable for therapeutic use for humans.

Adapted from the following source: Feinstein.senate.gov

_________________________________________________________

Reagan Endorses Stem Cell Research

Reagan, who recently attended a Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation

dinner, passionately supported stem cell research for its potential in treating

or possibly curing a wide range of diseases. “Science has presented us with a

hope called stem cell research, which may provide our scientists with many

answers that for so long have been beyond our grasp. I just don’t see how we

can

turn our backs on this,†she said. “We have lost so much time already. I

just really can’t bear to lose any more.†Mrs. Reagan lost her husband,

former

President Reagan to Alzheimer's disease last week, and feels very

strongly that stem cell research would help scientists better understand this

tragic

neurological disease, and will hopefully lead to more effective treatments

and possibly even a cure.

________________________________________________

And from a more progressive country:

Major Boost For Stem Cell Research

In a major initiative designed to accelerate global research efforts,

Australia’s Biotechnology Centre of Excellence, the National Stem Cell Centre

(NSCC)

today announced it plans to collaborate with biotechnology company Stem Cell

Sciences Ltd (SCS) to allow the development and distribution of new human

embryonic stem (ES) cell lines to scientists around the world. It is hoped that

six

new lines will be developed over a two year period.

Both the NSCC and SCS will then use the new human ES cell lines to accelerate

their own research programs which focus on significant illnesses with limited

treatments.

“The aim of the NSCC’s research programs is to develop both embryonic stem

cell and adult stem cell technologies that will provide human therapeutics for

blood and heart diseases,†NSCC Chief Executive Officer Dr Hugh Niall said.

Importantly, the NSCC and SCS have agreed to make these new human ES cell

lines available to the international scientific community without intellectual

property obligations. “We hope that this initiative will stimulate new

research

efforts in Australia and overseas and eventually lead to major medical

advances,†Dr Niall said.

Adapted from the following source: National Stem Cell Centre (NSCC)

___________________________________________________

Lastly, from s Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center:

Stem Cells Can Convert To Liver Tissue And Help Restore The Damaged Organ

Bone marrow stem cells, when exposed to damaged liver tissue, can quickly

convert into healthy liver cells and help repair the damaged organ, according to

new research from the s Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center.

In mouse-tissue cultures, scientists found that stem cells, in the presence

of cells from damaged liver tissue, developed into liver cells in as little as

seven hours. They also observed that stem cells transplanted into mice with

liver injuries helped restore liver function within two to seven days. The work

was published in the June 1 issue of the journal Nature Cell Biology.

Bone marrow stem cells, also known as hematopoietic stem cells, have the

ability to differentiate and develop into all other blood and marrow cells.

There

has been debate among the scientific community over whether these cells also

can differentiate into other tissue types such as the liver, says Saul J.

Sharkis, Ph.D., senior author of the study and a professor of oncology at the

s

Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center. Some studies suggest that the bone marrow cells

fuse with other types of cells, taking on those cells' properties. But in

this study, the researchers found, through highly thorough analysis with a

microscope and other tests, that the cells did not fuse, suggesting that

" microenvironmental " cues from existing liver cells caused them to convert.

This type of stem cell technique could eventually be used to treat chronic

diseases such as diabetes, cirrhosis of the liver, heart disease and cancer, he

says. He cautions that many more studies must be completed before the stem

cell therapy can be tested in humans.

Sharkis' continuing studies will try to identify the environmental cues

responsible for cells' conversion, and examine the ability of stem cells to

repair

other organs.

Adapted from the following source: s Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center

Web Site: http://www.actrf.org/WhatsNew/June_2004.htm#8

Ray

ineamer@... wrote:

Of greater medical significance is Dean's questionable mental health

status. GWB has provided the most Federal funding for scientific research in

our history. Things are getting desperate when one quotes Dizzy Dean! (IMHO,

of course)

Bob Drury

[Guest guest]

We are not lawyers and we are not here to tell you how to take revenge

on someone. You have been told before to go see a lawyer if this is

what you want to do.

If you continue this crap I will ban you from the group.

Doug

Bwilson0404@... wrote:

>keep joking about htis death sentence a bunch of high hippies. you all just

>love the dies

> is anyone going to tell me about prosecuting him or continue with thedumb

>shit

>bernice

>