Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Dear , At the end of your last post you said: " My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think depression, depression all the time,as soon as I´m not full of energy and HAPPY all day long. " When I read that, I thought, Wow, what would it feel like to be " full of energy and HAPPY all day long. " ? Even when I am Happy all day, I still occasionally take breaks and refresh myself. For me, depression = arguing with what is. For me, being physically tired is not depression, in fact sometimes it is delicious. It depends upon my story about what made me tired. Honey, how about doing The Work on: " I am angry and upset because I´m not full of energy and HAPPY all day long. " Love, Steve D. > > I am depressed. > Is it true? I don´t know. > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, I > can´t. > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there is > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes me > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how worthless, > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go to > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of all > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! It´s > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep right > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear in > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself without > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible during > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. I > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I don´t > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to care. > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other will, > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So in > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my behaviour > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just let > my body do what it needs to. > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels truer. > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of energy > and HAPPY all day long. > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > Love, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Dear , My thought is, keep doing great work like this as often as you can and pretty soon you might start to feel more energy and want to wash your hair, etc. Your worksheet is mine. I have been where you're at many times. I'm doing a bit better now, though, and I think that's from Doing the Work. So keep up the good Work. Make that your job right now---it's more important than any of that other stuff, anyway. Love, Dwight > > I am depressed. > Is it true? I don´t know. > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, I > can´t. > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there is > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes me > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how worthless, > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go to > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of all > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! It´s > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep right > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear in > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself without > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible during > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. I > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I don´t > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to care. > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other will, > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So in > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my behaviour > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just let > my body do what it needs to. > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels truer. > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of energy > and HAPPY all day long. > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > Love, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Dear MAria, I relate to this so well. I feel depressed and i feel i shouldnt be and the reality is i dont know how to not be depressed when i am depressed It just hits me. and sometimes it just goes away. I guess whats good is to acknowledge depression and then not to say you should not feel it.. like katie says if you have a pain its ok when you say i shouldnt have a pain then you add suffering to the pain ... And I guess its the same with a mental pain. You are doing what you should do which is writing work emails on here to help others. thanks love, roslyn > > I am depressed. > Is it true? I don´t know. > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, I > can´t. > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there is > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes me > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how worthless, > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go to > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of all > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! It´s > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep right > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear in > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself without > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible during > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. I > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I don´t > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to care. > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other will, > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So in > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my behaviour > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just let > my body do what it needs to. > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels truer. > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of energy > and HAPPY all day long. > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > Love, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Thank you Tami! I am depressed has been a religion to me too, but I feel that this story gets harder and harder to believe in. Right now in this moment, I don´t feel depressed, I feel happy from all the loving answers to me in this group I just read. I love you too, > > Thank you for your work > > I know too well the depression story, it used to be my religion: " I am > depressed " . > > Love you > T > > -- I am depressed, is it true? > > I am depressed. > Is it true? I don´t know. > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, I > can´t. > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there is > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes me > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how worthless, > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go to > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of all > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! It´s > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep right > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear in > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself without > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible during > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. I > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I don´t > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to care. > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other will, > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So in > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my behaviour > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just let > my body do what it needs to. > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels truer. > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of energy > and HAPPY all day long. > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > Love, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 > > > > I am depressed. > > Is it true? I don´t know. > > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, > I > > can´t. > > > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there > is > > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes > me > > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how > worthless, > > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go > to > > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of > all > > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! > It´s > > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep > right > > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear > in > > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself > without > > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible > during > > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. > I > > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I > don´t > > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to > care. > > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other > will, > > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So > in > > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my > behaviour > > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just > let > > my body do what it needs to. > > > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels > truer. > > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of > energy > > and HAPPY all day long. > > > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > > > Love, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 > > > >Hi Steve, > >I´m so glad to hear from you again! > >I like this approach: depression = arguing with what is! That seems > >to be just what it is when I investigate this. I do certain things > >and have the thought " I shouldn´t " . Then I don´t do other things and > >have the thought " I should " . Talk about fighting with reality! > > > >I don´t feel so much angry and upset as worried and sad about not > >having lot´s of energy and being happy all day long. So I could do > >the Work on that. > > > >I am worried and sad because I´m not full of energy and happy all > >day long. > >Is it true? Yes. > >Can you absolutely know that it´s true? Yes, I feel worried and sad > >and I´m not full of energy and not happy all day long. > > > >Ok, so you should be full of energy and happy all day long. Is that > >true? No, absolutely not. Because that is just not how I feel. > > > >How do you react when you believe this thought? I feel completely > >wrong. I am ashamed over myself. I miss those months from August to > >November when I was full of energy and happy every day. That felt so > >much more natural than the state I am in now. I am worried and sad. > >Worried that this is going to get worse. I feel stress every day > >when I wake up and notice I still feel this way, tired, no energy, > >no lust, no go. > > > >Who would you be without this thought? No stress for starters. And > >only that would be such a big relief. I would love myself just the > >way I am, with or without energy and happiness. I would take better > >care of myself because I would feel so much more peaceful with > >myself. > > > >TA: I shouldn´t be full of energy and happy all day long. That is > >truer. That is what is right now. And all the thoughts that it´s bad > >and wrong is just a painful and very stressful story. > > > >I should see that I have some energy and happiness every day. Yes! > >That is so true. I might not have energy for the things that my > >stories says I should have but I have energy for other things. I > >have always energy to visit this group. I have energy to do the Work > >and replying to peoples posts and e-mailing with people. I have > >energy to play computer games. I have energy to watch movies. I have > >energy to take care of my dogs, play with them and cuttle with them > >and make sure they have water and food. I also feel happiness every > >day. I feel a lot of happiness from all the love and care I get from > >my friends in this group. I feel happiness with Hans every day. We > >laugh a lot together and show our love for eachother and that makes > >me very happy. And our dogs makes me happy, especially Ozzy, the > >older one. He has such a personality. He makes me laugh every day. > > > >Ok, that´s all for now. > > > >Love, > > > > > > > >> > >> Dear , > >> > >> At the end of your last post you said: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 > > > > I am depressed. > > Is it true? I don´t know. > > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, > I > > can´t. > > > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there > is > > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes > me > > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how > worthless, > > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go > to > > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of > all > > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! > It´s > > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep > right > > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear > in > > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself > without > > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible > during > > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. > I > > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I > don´t > > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to > care. > > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other > will, > > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So > in > > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my > behaviour > > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just > let > > my body do what it needs to. > > > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels > truer. > > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of > energy > > and HAPPY all day long. > > > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > > > Love, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 > > > > I am depressed. > > Is it true? I don´t know. > > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? No, I > > can´t. > > > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that there is > > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I see my > > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that makes me > > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for not > > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how worthless, > > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, go to > > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good in > > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking of all > > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER and > > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long hair), > > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the bank...sigh! It´s > > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep right > > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a bear in > > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the word > > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like me > > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. I > > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself without > > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or how > > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible during > > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. I > > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to be > > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and peaceful. I > > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if I don´t > > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems to care. > > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other will, > > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. So in > > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my behaviour > > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and just let > > my body do what it needs to. > > > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels truer. > > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They think > > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of energy > > and HAPPY all day long. > > > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > > > Love, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Dear , I have another theory - why you were ok Aug to Nov.. DId you have something happen that was particularly painful to you around nov or during winter months.. in the past.. ?? If so winter weather maybe subconsciously restimulating that incident in your subconscious. My depression seems to be continual. i suppose i should be doing the work. Im escaping by reading emails. Its cheering me up love, roslyn > > > > > > > > I am depressed. > > > > Is it true? I don´t know. > > > > Can you absolutely know it´s true? No, I can´t. > > > > What´s your proofs? I sleep a lot, comfort-eat, avoid physical > > > > activities like taking walks, showering, cleaning. > > > > Can you absolutely know that this means that you are depressed? > > No, > > > I > > > > can´t. > > > > > > > > How do you react when you believe this thought? I think that > > there > > > is > > > > something wrong with me. Something that needs to be fixed. I > see > > my > > > > activities and lack of activities as bad and wrong. And that > > makes > > > me > > > > feel a lot of stress and unhappiness. I hit myself mentally for > > not > > > > being able to be and do something else. I tell myself how > > > worthless, > > > > bad and wrong I am. I compare myself to other people who study, > > go > > > to > > > > work, clean their homes, cook, always has make-up and look good > > in > > > > their hair. And here I´m sitting, day after day, just thinking > > of > > > all > > > > the things I SHOULD do. Fix my eyebrowses, do pedicure, SHOWER > > and > > > > wash my hair (that is the worst, I just hate to wash my long > > hair), > > > > take the dishes, take care of the laundry, go to the > > bank...sigh! > > > It´s > > > > so stressful just to think about it that I want to go to sleep > > > right > > > > away. I really just want to sleep until this has past, like a > > bear > > > in > > > > inhibernation, as Karin put it. > > > > > > > > Who would you be without this thought? If I never heard the > word > > > > depression and let´s say that everyone else was behaving like > me > > > > during winter (like the bears), I would feel completely normal. > > I > > > > would just follow my natural instinct and inhibernate myself > > > without > > > > thinking about if that was right or wrong, or what it meant, or > > how > > > > long it would last. I would make it as comfortable as possible > > > during > > > > my inhibernation, and take as good care of myself as possible. > I > > > > wouldn´t feel any stress, because there wouldn´t be anything to > > be > > > > stressed over, since this is natural. I would be calm and > > peaceful. > > > I > > > > would see that in reality everything is perfectly fine even if > I > > > don´t > > > > shower that often or put make-up on. In reality, no one seems > to > > > care. > > > > And I would see that if I dont take the dishes or clean, other > > > will, > > > > my daughter and Hans. And I don´t take walks with Ozzy, but the > > > > neighbour´s girl comes to us almost everyday and take Ozzy out. > > So > > > in > > > > reality everything is fine, and without this thought that my > > > behaviour > > > > has any special meaning, I would be so calm and peaceful and > > just > > > let > > > > my body do what it needs to. > > > > > > > > TA: I am not depressed. That could very well be truer. It feels > > > truer. > > > > Depression sounds like a very stressful story to me now. > > > > > > > > My thoughts are depressed. Yes, that sounds very true. They > > think > > > > depression, depression all the time, as soon as I´m not full of > > > energy > > > > and HAPPY all day long. > > > > > > > > Thank you for listening and comments welcome! > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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