Re: Diesel exhaust

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I hope we don't have to wait for studies that show that emissions from No. 2 fuel oil-fired boilers similarly impact human health. The "diesel exhaust" category shouldn't be allowed to be a diversion from other sources of the same pollutants that are emitted from stacks on the roofs of buildings that are located next to the windows of taller buildings in large cities.

I'm not worried about one in a million cancer risk. I'm worried about the effects on people's respiratory systems (including asthma), cardiovascular systems (increased BP and heartrate) and other effects (including thrombotic events).

Why does the risk of cancer seem to "trump" the risk of all of the other health effects that impact a much greater number of people?

Steve Temes

Diesel exhaust

California initiated an aggressive

Program to clean diesel fuel and reduce emissions years ago. EPA followed. Europe is behind. WHO's action will help

there and elsewhere.

Hal

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[Guest guest]

Steve, to answer your question about cancer 'trump'-ing all other issues of

illness:

This appears to be a public health-type response to a potentially large problem,

the statements make clear that it's not the risk factor, but the cost factor due

to the immense size of the impacted exposed population. Therefor, they look at

it a bit differently than you or I might.

If the exposed group is in the billions, which is is, then the 1 in million risk

becomes thousands at risk of cancer. The cost and perception is important.

My advice to all: do NOT thwart this by changing the focus from one disease to

another. Simple respiratory issues do not get the reaction that cancer does. If

one were to 'vote' on it, the public will overwhelmingly approve regulation to

prevent the 1 in milllion cancer, but they would never approve regulation on

some vague, hard to understand illness like 'respiratory' issues.

This is a good thing. Once it maintains a steady momentum, then it will be time

to latch on other issues.

Let's see if this get's any moveement here in the U.S., trucks, school buses,

etc.

(PS< this is not too different than the 1996/1997 hemosiderosis/stachybotrys

response out of Cleveland; they made decisions from a " public health " point of

view. Caution over fact. It worked, even when they retracted and corrected the

errors, the horse was out, the bell had been rung.)

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Steve, others,

I have an interesting comparison that I inadvertantly discovered during my short

stint at Cleveland Public Health during those hemosiderosis months.

My son was about 9 mos, his cousin about 2 yrs. Each got a respiratory infection

called RSV, respiratory syncitial virus. A devastating and lethal disease. It

actually kills 10's of thousands in the U.S. yearly. Mortality rates from under

10,000 to over 20,000. That year over 20,000 infants died. It was considered

'epidemic'.

Yes, died, not just infected. That is a huge number.

BUT, Not a word in the press, the public health media, not even between

colleagues. It was if it didn't exist except to those families living with it,

the nurses and doctors treating it. Even they were rather stand-offish, no

better way to put it. As if risk of death and actual death was run-of-the-mill.

The black mold related hemosiderosis, the slimy black stachybotrys, with an

unsubstantiated death rate of 7 or 8 (not thousand, just single digit) got reems

of press, as you all know. And so here we are today.

Still no treatment or improved outcome for victims of RSV. Still high mortality

rates that far exceed many other childhood illnesses.

When public health ignores for decades this illness, but spends inordinate

amounts on things like mold effects, there is a problem.

Both my son and nephew were treated early and were not at risk; my nephew

admitted for 2 days, lots of oxygen. My son was ok. However, he has ever since

had cough issues; seems his lungs have trouble handling minor congestion easily.