Re: Cancer (Off topic) PH values/ Oxygen

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Hi

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is part of treatment for MS

proposed by D.Perlmutter in " The Better Brain Book " .

Tom

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Hi! Had Hyperbaric treatment in 1983 at Texas A & M

when retired Air Force Colonel/physiologist Dr

Fife (?) started an experimental Hyperbaric program.

I was one of two MS patients alternating an hour at 15

or 30 ft below sea level. Workmens' Comp agreed to

pay the cost since I broke my hip in a fall from a

flight of steep concrete steps w/o guard rail outside

the school where I taught. There was a younger lady

undergoing hyperbaric treatment for MS who alternated

the hour in the unit with me. I suggested Dr. Fife

cease wasting expensive oxygen on me after a month w/o

effect. He phoned me several years later to ask if

I'd be interested in taking part in a proposed

program using the an anti-cancer drug and told me the

other patient ( a sweet young lady whose arms and legs

flailed the air while her brother carried her from car

to building and Dr. Fife drained the pressure sore on

a thigh) died several years before. I had been

advised that plasmapheresis would return me to normal

by the retired Air Force Colonel/Neurologist who did

brain evoke and spinal tap in 1982. I was refused

plasmapheresis at & White (Texas A & M Teaching

hospital) on the grounds it would either kill me or

make me worse. I was advised to go home (College

Station, TX at that time)and read the research. I

sent for computer hard copy from the medical library

next morning and read the miserable research reports

for myself. The retired Col. asked if I'd had it yet

and held to his belief in its effectiveness!!!!

Expensive, painful and fatal! Hyperbaric oxygen is

expensive (the new workmens' comp rep refused the cost

accepted by his predecessor and Dr. Fife's program was

stiffed. The hyperbaric oxygen helped only some

gangrene patients, according to Dr. Fife. I'd check

the research done at Texas A & M as well as any other

reputable researchers before signing on to any

expensive protocol. Best, Shirley Lotz

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> Hi

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> Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is part of treatment for

> MS

> proposed by D.Perlmutter in " The Better Brain Book " .

>

> Tom

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Tom

I am well aware of hyperbaric oxygen, but I have never seen or heard of any evidence that it worked reliably enough to consider. I am more than ready to re evaluate that decision, can you point me in the direction of any evidence of effectiveness or user group on the web I can discuss it with.

Dave

Message: 9 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: tf <luxtf@...>Subject: Re: Cancer (Off topic) PH values/ OxygenHiHyperbaric oxygen therapy is part of treatment for MSproposed by D.Perlmutter in "The Better Brain Book".Tom

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Shylotz

The book I referred to does not recommend Hyperbaric treatment, and whilst I am aware of it I have not seen any compelling evidence of effectiveness for MS. Whilst I would not regard it as totally safe , I have not seen evidence that it is as dangerous as you suggest. Since we are not considering doing it, I will not be further researching it but I think it is helpful that you have noted where the evidence is for those who may have felt that was the therapy I was referring to.

Dave

Message: 23 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Shirley Lotz <shylotz@...>Subject: Re: Cancer (Off topic) PH values/ OxygenHi! Had Hyperbaric treatment in 1983 at Texas A & Mwhen retired Air Force Colonel/physiologist Dr Fife (?) started an experimental Hyperbaric program. I was one of two MS patients alternating an hour at 15or 30 ft below sea level. Workmens' Comp agreed topay the cost since I broke my hip in a fall from aflight of steep concrete steps w/o guard rail outsidethe school where I taught. There was a younger ladyundergoing hyperbaric treatment for MS who alternatedthe hour in the unit with me. I suggested Dr. Fifecease wasting expensive oxygen on me after a month w/oeffect. He phoned me several years later to ask ifI'd be interested in taking part in a proposedprogram using the an anti-cancer drug and told me theother patient ( a sweet young lady whose arms and legsflailed the air while her brother carried her from carto building and Dr. Fife drained the pressure sore ona thigh) died several years before. I had beenadvised that plasmapheresis would return me to normalby the retired Air Force Colonel/Neurologist who didbrain evoke and spinal tap in 1982. I was refusedplasmapheresis at & White (Texas A & M Teachinghospital) on the grounds it would either kill me ormake me worse. I was advised to go home (CollegeStation, TX at that time)and read the research. Isent for computer hard copy from the medical librarynext morning and read the miserable research reportsfor myself. The retired Col. asked if I'd had it yetand held to his belief in its effectiveness!!!! Expensive, painful and fatal! Hyperbaric oxygen isexpensive (the new workmens' comp rep refused the costaccepted by his predecessor and Dr. Fife's program wasstiffed. The hyperbaric oxygen helped only somegangrene patients, according to Dr. Fife. I'd checkthe research done at Texas A & M as well as any otherreputable researchers before signing on to anyexpensive protocol. Best, Shirley Lotz

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Dave

I don't remember having run across this treatment

anywhere else than in this book,and was quite

perplexed when they mentioned it to be widely used

over here in Europe.

Here is the home page of the The Perlmutter Hyperbaric

Center,also refering to MS:

http://www.perlhealth.com/abouthbo.htm

not to convinced about the usefulness,though

Tom

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Dave

Here in Durban our local hyperbolic chamber, at Entabeni hospital, refuses to even think about using it for MS patients as according to them there is no evidence that it is safe or that it would improve MS symptoms.

My pennies worth. Malcolm

Re: Cancer (Off topic) PH values/ OxygenHiHyperbaric oxygen therapy is part of treatment for MSproposed by D.Perlmutter in "The Better Brain Book".Tom