Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Thanks for the quotes, Roslyn, All very beautiful and true. I think Ram Dass is very cool. I read Be Here Now back in the 70's, but didnt really " get it " back then. I saw him lecture once in the 80's and was very impressed by him. I have to agree especially with the quote about suffering. My recent struggles have caused me to focus intensely on the work. That was all I could think of just to survive. I had read Loving What Is a year ago and loved it, but hadnt gone deep enough with it. This made me go back in and really be a sponge. I had to! I used to feel that all my struggles with a kundalini disorder had taken me from God, and made me unable to meditate. NOw I realize that my greatest obstacle is my greatest blessing. Medical doctors are clueless in helping me, ofcourse, but I have seen some wholistic people that have been helful. In fact, I am doing pretty well this past week. whew! Love > > > > > > Dear Jeffery, > > > > > > Your writing reminds me of touching B K's foot and felt energy > > > shooting out of her. Kundalini energy is powerful stuff! > > > > > > If the energy had a voice ~ what would it say? You seem to have a > > > judgement that the Kundalini energy is taking away your > > energy....and > > > it could be your thinking about Kundalini energy that is taking > > away > > > your energy. > > > > > > So you have energy shooting out of your body and your chest gets > > tight. > > > > > > And I don't see a problem with that. You sound like a powerful man. > > > > > > Love, nne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the one I believe the most.I get energy shooting around > > my > > > > body, especially in my chest, which also can get tight. it > > weakens > > > > me tremendously. I get very fearful. terrified. > > > > Who would I be without this? > > > > Peaceful. I would have to surrender my entire identity to feel > > > > peaceful when my nerves are being overwhelmed. > > > > > > > > TA: My nerves are working perfectly. My thinking is all screwed > > up! > > > > That's hard to believe, but they could be perfect for me, not > > as I > > > > think they should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the one I believe the most.I get energy shooting around > > my > > > > body, especially in my chest, which also can get tight. it > > weakens > > > > me tremendously. I get very fearful. terrified. > > > > Who would I be without this? > > > > Peaceful. I would have to surrender my entire identity to feel > > > > peaceful when my nerves are being overwhelmed. > > > > > > > > TA: My nerves are working perfectly. My thinking is all screwed > > up! > > > > That's hard to believe, but they could be perfect for me, not > > as I > > > > think they should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know these are all just stories that I run, but it's > > intense > > > > > Yes, they are. That's because you believe them. Question them, > > > > and > > > > > the intensity will fade. Until you can't believe them, > > anymore. > > > > That > > > > > can be a slow process, or it can happen instantly. Depending > > on > > > > how > > > > > deep you go inside. > > > > > Because they are so intense, do them one after another. And > > get > > > > them > > > > > as simple as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > How do I react > > > > > > I get scared, lonely, discouraged. project scary scenarious > > > > > What does it mean: your life get's out of control? How does > > it > > > > > manifest? If it does, what could possibly happen? > > > > > > > > > > > Who would I be without this thought? > > > > > > So much happier. > > > > > That sounds *very* good. > > > > > > > > > > > Totally ready to give up the illusion of control, > > > > > > since I never really had it in the first place. at peace > > > > > Ok, I hear you know that control is an illusion. And that you > > > > don't > > > > > have any. > > > > > > > > > > Do you need control? > > > > > > > > > > with the thought: Lonely. Discouraged. Scared. > > > > > without the thought: So much happier. > > > > > > > > > > Can you see a reason to drop the thought? > > > > > Can you find one reason to keep it, that is not stressful? > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to take a close look at your proofs. Because that's > > the > > > > > moments the thought seems real. > > > > > > > > > > > TA: My life is not out of control. It is exactly the way it > > > > should > > > > > > be right now. > > > > > Could that be true? > > > > > > > > > > > My thinking about my life is out of control. I have let > > myself > > > > > > identify with and believe my thinking. > > > > > Yes, that's right. > > > > > > > > > > And it's not always like that. Your thinking is out of > > control, > > > > when > > > > > you believe that your life is out of control. Not before that, > > > > and > > > > > not after it. > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Im glad you are doing well this week .. and glad you liked the quotes.. im glad somebody on here likes quotes. I read most of Be Here Now..have you read the Power Of Now by Tolle .. . my husband liked that one --I need to reread it sometime i never really got it. Theres a video also out of Ram Dass after his stroke.. but i was never able to find it and since i had already seen it i guess that was not something i needed.. you might like it but i cant say how you would ever get it. BEst wishes Roslyn - -- In Loving-what-is , " " <Initiate2@m...> wrote: > > Thanks for the quotes, Roslyn, > All very beautiful and true. I think Ram Dass is very cool. I read > Be Here Now back in the 70's, but didnt really " get it " back then. I > saw him lecture once in the 80's and was very impressed by him. > I have to agree especially with the quote about suffering. My recent > struggles have caused me to focus intensely on the work. That was > all I could think of just to survive. I had read Loving What Is a > year ago and loved it, but hadnt gone deep enough with it. This made > me go back in and really be a sponge. I had to! > I used to feel that all my struggles with a kundalini disorder had > taken me from God, and made me unable to meditate. NOw I realize > that my greatest obstacle is my greatest blessing. > Medical doctors are clueless in helping me, ofcourse, but I have > seen some wholistic people that have been helful. In fact, I am > doing pretty well this past week. whew! > Love > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jeffery, > > > > > > > > Your writing reminds me of touching B K's foot and felt energy > > > > shooting out of her. Kundalini energy is powerful stuff! > > > > > > > > If the energy had a voice ~ what would it say? You seem to > have a > > > > judgement that the Kundalini energy is taking away your > > > energy....and > > > > it could be your thinking about Kundalini energy that is > taking > > > away > > > > your energy. > > > > > > > > So you have energy shooting out of your body and your chest > gets > > > tight. > > > > > > > > And I don't see a problem with that. You sound like a powerful > man. > > > > > > > > Love, nne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the one I believe the most.I get energy shooting > around > > > my > > > > > body, especially in my chest, which also can get tight. it > > > weakens > > > > > me tremendously. I get very fearful. terrified. > > > > > Who would I be without this? > > > > > Peaceful. I would have to surrender my entire identity to > feel > > > > > peaceful when my nerves are being overwhelmed. > > > > > > > > > > TA: My nerves are working perfectly. My thinking is all > screwed > > > up! > > > > > That's hard to believe, but they could be perfect for me, > not > > > as I > > > > > think they should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the one I believe the most.I get energy shooting > around > > > my > > > > > body, especially in my chest, which also can get tight. it > > > weakens > > > > > me tremendously. I get very fearful. terrified. > > > > > Who would I be without this? > > > > > Peaceful. I would have to surrender my entire identity to > feel > > > > > peaceful when my nerves are being overwhelmed. > > > > > > > > > > TA: My nerves are working perfectly. My thinking is all > screwed > > > up! > > > > > That's hard to believe, but they could be perfect for me, > not > > > as I > > > > > think they should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know these are all just stories that I run, but it's > > > intense > > > > > > Yes, they are. That's because you believe them. Question > them, > > > > > and > > > > > > the intensity will fade. Until you can't believe them, > > > anymore. > > > > > That > > > > > > can be a slow process, or it can happen instantly. > Depending > > > on > > > > > how > > > > > > deep you go inside. > > > > > > Because they are so intense, do them one after another. > And > > > get > > > > > them > > > > > > as simple as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I react > > > > > > > I get scared, lonely, discouraged. project scary > scenarious > > > > > > What does it mean: your life get's out of control? How > does > > > it > > > > > > manifest? If it does, what could possibly happen? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would I be without this thought? > > > > > > > So much happier. > > > > > > That sounds *very* good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally ready to give up the illusion of control, > > > > > > > since I never really had it in the first place. at peace > > > > > > Ok, I hear you know that control is an illusion. And that > you > > > > > don't > > > > > > have any. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you need control? > > > > > > > > > > > > with the thought: Lonely. Discouraged. Scared. > > > > > > without the thought: So much happier. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you see a reason to drop the thought? > > > > > > Can you find one reason to keep it, that is not stressful? > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to take a close look at your proofs. Because > that's > > > the > > > > > > moments the thought seems real. > > > > > > > > > > > > > TA: My life is not out of control. It is exactly the way > it > > > > > should > > > > > > > be right now. > > > > > > Could that be true? > > > > > > > > > > > > > My thinking about my life is out of control. I have let > > > myself > > > > > > > identify with and believe my thinking. > > > > > > Yes, that's right. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it's not always like that. Your thinking is out of > > > control, > > > > > when > > > > > > you believe that your life is out of control. Not before > that, > > > > > and > > > > > > not after it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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