Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Hello Gwen, On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:54:47 -0000, Gwen Griffith-Dickson wrote: >in all these discussions of emulsifiers, mostly between our American friends on the list, I don't recall seeing anyone mention Cetearyl Glucoside. I did a search of our list archives and found nothing. You're correct. I don't remember any discussion of Cetearyl Glucoside. >Maybe it goes by another name across the Atlantic? (I tried searching under its commercial name, 'Vegetal' and again nothing.) It seems highly dubious that it is unknown or unavailable in the USA when we can get it in the UK (seems to be more often the other way around!) Or could it be there are serious disadvantages to it (which I have never discovered) which preclude its use in the US? AFAIK, Cetearyl Glucoside is sold under the trade name " Tego Care CG 90 " which is sold by Degussa/Goldschmidt. You should be able to source that in the UK. Emulgade PL 68/50 (Cognis GmbH) and Montanov 68 (SEPPIC) are Cetearyl Alcohol and Cetearyl Glucoside. I would think that these should be easilly sourced in the UK. >I don't know its HLB, but it is an oil-in-water emulsifier. It has been very satisfying for me to use; not a single failure so far, used at widely varying differences in proportion of the fat stage. Can make either a rich (but still 'light') cream or a light lotion. (Use usually 3-5% depending which is desired.) I often use it alone without other emulsifiers with no problems. It also, interestingly, emulsified honeycomb very nicely (an experiment of mine, to make a single homogenous substance out of beeswax and honey to enable the latter to be used in all-fat formulae like lip balms) -- in a situation where the oil-soluble probably outweighed the water-soluble stage. Degussa estimates the HLB of Cetearyl Glucoside to be around 11. I've used Montanov 68 before and was very pleased with it's performance and displeased with its cost. Actually I use the Montanov 68 with Sepigel 305. A beautiful emulsion. >Oh, ditto Beheneth-10, for me a very successful water-in-oil emulsifier which eliminates the need for borax (in e.g. a beeswax-borax system). Beeswax can be used with it as well (without the borax) of course. I don't recall seeing that mentioned on the list either, although I have not searched the archives for it. Sounds interesting. I'm not aware of any sources here in the US. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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