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In a message dated 6/6/99 9:30:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

geoff@... writes:

<< If after eating you get tired and want to nap, have increased mucous or

post nasal drip, that food is a problem for " you " , even if you don't

like to admit it. >>

Geoff,

You are so right. Corn, wheat, yeast,oats, rye, and mold are my worst

offenders. Everytime I eat them I get a post nasal drip. Have to have a

handy Kleenex in my sleeve always, (as you know most woman's clothing don't

have pockets. LOL.)

These are called food sensitivities. A good warning from our bodies and we

should heed any warnings it gives, as it knows best. Right?

Anita

RA 26 years, Fibro, AP 16 months

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Anihan@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/6/99 9:30:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> geoff@... writes:

>

> << If after eating you get tired and want to nap, have increased mucous or

> post nasal drip, that food is a problem for " you " , even if you don't

> like to admit it. >>

>

> Geoff,

>

> You are so right. Corn, wheat, yeast,oats, rye, and mold are my worst

> offenders. Everytime I eat them I get a post nasal drip. Have to have a

> handy Kleenex in my sleeve always, (as you know most woman's clothing don't

> have pockets. LOL.)

>

> These are called food sensitivities. A good warning from our bodies and we

> should heed any warnings it gives, as it knows best. Right?

>

> Anita

> RA 26 years, Fibro, AP 16 months

Yep! The offending foods make your immune system work to get rid of

them. That's what the sinus reaction is - an immune reaction - your body

is secreting mucous to carry away the problem item. Our immune systems

are really stressed - more so, apparently, than most people.

Cease intake of the offending foods and you relieve your immune system

of one more fight - you get rid of that battle front. That frees your

immune system to carry on it's work in other areas with more of its

resources (like more soldiers to fight the mycoplasmas).

One more note, if you eat something that leaves an inappropriate sour

taste in your mouth, that's an offending food for you too.

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" Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like

an ox. Behold now, his strength in his loins, and his power in the

muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his

thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are

like bars of iron. He is the first of the ways of God. "

God speaking to Job...

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>what foods are easy on the liver?

>

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>I've read that carrots, lemons, and spinach are also good for the liver. I

>couldn't tell you why, or even where I got that informtion, though.

>

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Janelle,

carrots have betacarotene (Vit A), lemons have Vit C and spinach has folic

acid. Maybe that is why they are good for liver.

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>what foods are easy on the liver?

>

>

>

>I've read that carrots, lemons, and spinach are also good for the liver. I

>couldn't tell you why, or even where I got that informtion, though.

>

>Janelle AIH

>Seattle

><< RFC-822.TXT >>

Janelle,

carrots have betacarotene (Vit A), lemons have Vit C and spinach has folic

acid. Maybe that is why they are good for liver.

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,

When I was most sick, I craved fresh vegetables and couldn't get enough

salad. I also seemed to need strong, acidic flavors, like vinagery Italian

dressings and lots of tabasco sauce in V-8 juice (a no-no since it's loaded

with salt.) I've always suspected that our bodies crave the foods we need.

I used to have an almost insatiable craving for liver and onions, for

example. I must have needed whatever liver supplies to the body. Right

now I have nearly no taste for sweets but I do want intensely flavored

foods and especially salty foods like nuts and popcorn. This is not good

since they aggravate edema, but at the same time, I'm taking tons of

diuretics and no potassium. I suspect that my body is craving the

potassium I'm losing because of the diuretics. Don't know if there's any

validity to any of this.

Geri

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Hi a, The brand of EFA oil I use is Health from the Sun. All my family

members like it. We also use olive oil. We are vegan too.

a Perza <chestnutt@...> wrote:

:

I used to use flax seed oil with my children as they suffered terribly

with ear infections. I will ask my homeopath when I next see her, if I

would be able to tolerate it. Who makes the oil you use. IT sounds so

yummy, I could just imagine eating it on a salad. (I was salivating

when reading its ingredients)

Myra:

I would still like to know how you cook those yams and greens.

Need a recipe to print out for my kitchen. Which Yam.. quantity, which

greens.. how do you cook them. Is that the complete meal??

Thanx ladies,

shawna

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Liz - can't do nuts at all!! make me feel very strange in my stomach a while

later... a sick feeling - i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to them. The oddest

thing though is that I can do 'natural' peanut butter (no sugar)

occasionally and I am ok - go figger???

wendy

foods

>

> Hello everyone

>

> Hi Becs...so it's you drinking all the Vitasoy! <grin>. I don't have any

> reactions to Vitasoy. In fact, I had a chicken pie the other day. There

is

> this bakery that makes pies etc, with no artificial additives,

preservatives

> etc. No sugar either. I had no reaction to it whatsoever. I made

> wholemeal scones today with natural raspberry jam (sweetened with grape

> juice) and whipped cream sweetened with stevia. Didn't appear to have a

> reaction to that either. Probably the candida liked the cream though.

> Didn't have much of it. I have been rebellious the last few days, but

> staying away from sugar still. A smear of raspberry jam didn't count

> <grin>. I did have pasta tonight though, and felt sick after that. I

would

> call that a reaction......

>

> My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us reactions.

> Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation? I know I cannot

> eat dairy, my body doesn't like it. Cream I seem to tolerate in very

small

> amounts. Milk I cannot have at all. Cheese I get a doozy reaction with.

> Cream cheese none. It's bizarre, but that's how it is. I have to wonder

at

> tonight's meal. Wheat doesn't seem to give me trouble, but the pasta

> tonight did, which is wheat. So maybe it was other things in with the

> pasta - combinations?

>

> I haven't had headaches the last 2 days either. Wonder whets changed.

> Maybe it just a " good " time of the month.

>

> So what is your learned opinion , Jonah, Liz, and anyone else?

>

>

>

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You wrote:

My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us reactions.

Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation?

**********

Thats has been my exact experience also. Especially with

nuts. The books says to avoid nuts because the amount

of mold it contains. I never had a problem with nuts so

I eat them like crazy. It really helps you if you need

something crunchy. However I wonder if staying away from

the mold in nuts is for people who have a mold allergy.

Or does it depend on what your candida likes to feast on?

LIZ

> [Original Message]

> From: Nick Grant <nwgrant@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 4/1/01 2:21:25 AM

> Subject: foods

>

> Hello everyone

>

> Hi Becs...so it's you drinking all the Vitasoy! <grin>. I don't have any

> reactions to Vitasoy. In fact, I had a chicken pie the other day. There

is

> this bakery that makes pies etc, with no artificial additives,

preservatives

> etc. No sugar either. I had no reaction to it whatsoever. I made

> wholemeal scones today with natural raspberry jam (sweetened with grape

> juice) and whipped cream sweetened with stevia. Didn't appear to have a

> reaction to that either. Probably the candida liked the cream though.

> Didn't have much of it. I have been rebellious the last few days, but

> staying away from sugar still. A smear of raspberry jam didn't count

> <grin>. I did have pasta tonight though, and felt sick after that. I

would

> call that a reaction......

>

> My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us reactions.

> Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation? I know I cannot

> eat dairy, my body doesn't like it. Cream I seem to tolerate in very

small

> amounts. Milk I cannot have at all. Cheese I get a doozy reaction with.

> Cream cheese none. It's bizarre, but that's how it is. I have to wonder

at

> tonight's meal. Wheat doesn't seem to give me trouble, but the pasta

> tonight did, which is wheat. So maybe it was other things in with the

> pasta - combinations?

>

> I haven't had headaches the last 2 days either. Wonder whets changed.

> Maybe it just a " good " time of the month.

>

> So what is your learned opinion , Jonah, Liz, and anyone else?

>

>

>

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oh boy - you hit the'nail on the head' with me too. There is ONE time

of the month that I have discovered that I CANNOT eat the things I can eat

the REST of the month. I KNOW it is tied in with myhormones...and this is

my latest detective work... that seemingly could take the rest of my life to

figure out (plus i'm getting to pre-menopause time) ... <sigh>

wendy

Re: foods

Hi

Peanuts are not part of the nut family. They are actually a legume. This

may be why you can eat peanuts.

I feel yuck today. Wonder if yesterdays foods make you feel yuck the next

day? I actually think it is tied in with ovulation. I seem to remember

last month around thistime I ached just before I ovulated. AAHhh, that

process of elimination is a pain. I know for sure now to avoid dairy,

except butter, which seems o.k. It seems to be the milky things, like milk,

cream, cheese. Never noticed cream before to be a problem. Some things are

becoming a noticeable problem, others seem not to be. It's quite a job to

work out which is which, but I am truly beginning to believe that our bodies

know what they need/are o.k. with, and what they are not. I will listen to

the wisdom of my inner being <grin>. Sounds decidedly New Age, but hey, I

think it's easy to judge that way for me anyhow.

foods

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > Hi Becs...so it's you drinking all the Vitasoy! <grin>. I don't have

any

> > reactions to Vitasoy. In fact, I had a chicken pie the other day.

There

> is

> > this bakery that makes pies etc, with no artificial additives,

> preservatives

> > etc. No sugar either. I had no reaction to it whatsoever. I made

> > wholemeal scones today with natural raspberry jam (sweetened with grape

> > juice) and whipped cream sweetened with stevia. Didn't appear to have a

> > reaction to that either. Probably the candida liked the cream though.

> > Didn't have much of it. I have been rebellious the last few days, but

> > staying away from sugar still. A smear of raspberry jam didn't count

> > <grin>. I did have pasta tonight though, and felt sick after that. I

> would

> > call that a reaction......

> >

> > My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us

reactions.

> > Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation? I know I

cannot

> > eat dairy, my body doesn't like it. Cream I seem to tolerate in very

> small

> > amounts. Milk I cannot have at all. Cheese I get a doozy reaction with.

> > Cream cheese none. It's bizarre, but that's how it is. I have to

wonder

> at

> > tonight's meal. Wheat doesn't seem to give me trouble, but the pasta

> > tonight did, which is wheat. So maybe it was other things in with the

> > pasta - combinations?

> >

> > I haven't had headaches the last 2 days either. Wonder whets changed.

> > Maybe it just a " good " time of the month.

> >

> > So what is your learned opinion , Jonah, Liz, and anyone else?

> >

> >

> >

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Call it the Candida Square Dance.

Just when you have the idea of where you are going

with this treatment you are flung somewhere else

and lost. Never was good at this dance thing.

LIZ

> [Original Message]

> From: D & WMcPhail <dwmcphail@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 4/1/01 10:53:14 AM

> Subject: Re: foods

>

> Liz - can't do nuts at all!! make me feel very strange in my stomach a

while

> later... a sick feeling - i'm pretty sure i'm allergic to them. The

oddest

> thing though is that I can do 'natural' peanut butter (no sugar)

> occasionally and I am ok - go figger???

>

> wendy

>

> foods

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > Hi Becs...so it's you drinking all the Vitasoy! <grin>. I don't have

any

> > reactions to Vitasoy. In fact, I had a chicken pie the other day.

There

> is

> > this bakery that makes pies etc, with no artificial additives,

> preservatives

> > etc. No sugar either. I had no reaction to it whatsoever. I made

> > wholemeal scones today with natural raspberry jam (sweetened with grape

> > juice) and whipped cream sweetened with stevia. Didn't appear to have a

> > reaction to that either. Probably the candida liked the cream though.

> > Didn't have much of it. I have been rebellious the last few days, but

> > staying away from sugar still. A smear of raspberry jam didn't count

> > <grin>. I did have pasta tonight though, and felt sick after that. I

> would

> > call that a reaction......

> >

> > My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us

reactions.

> > Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation? I know I

cannot

> > eat dairy, my body doesn't like it. Cream I seem to tolerate in very

> small

> > amounts. Milk I cannot have at all. Cheese I get a doozy reaction with.

> > Cream cheese none. It's bizarre, but that's how it is. I have to

wonder

> at

> > tonight's meal. Wheat doesn't seem to give me trouble, but the pasta

> > tonight did, which is wheat. So maybe it was other things in with the

> > pasta - combinations?

> >

> > I haven't had headaches the last 2 days either. Wonder whets changed.

> > Maybe it just a " good " time of the month.

> >

> > So what is your learned opinion , Jonah, Liz, and anyone else?

> >

> >

> >

> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want

to

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Peanuts are not part of the nut family. They are actually a legume. This

may be why you can eat peanuts.

I feel yuck today. Wonder if yesterdays foods make you feel yuck the next

day? I actually think it is tied in with ovulation. I seem to remember

last month around thistime I ached just before I ovulated. AAHhh, that

process of elimination is a pain. I know for sure now to avoid dairy,

except butter, which seems o.k. It seems to be the milky things, like milk,

cream, cheese. Never noticed cream before to be a problem. Some things are

becoming a noticeable problem, others seem not to be. It's quite a job to

work out which is which, but I am truly beginning to believe that our bodies

know what they need/are o.k. with, and what they are not. I will listen to

the wisdom of my inner being <grin>. Sounds decidedly New Age, but hey, I

think it's easy to judge that way for me anyhow.

foods

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > Hi Becs...so it's you drinking all the Vitasoy! <grin>. I don't have

any

> > reactions to Vitasoy. In fact, I had a chicken pie the other day.

There

> is

> > this bakery that makes pies etc, with no artificial additives,

> preservatives

> > etc. No sugar either. I had no reaction to it whatsoever. I made

> > wholemeal scones today with natural raspberry jam (sweetened with grape

> > juice) and whipped cream sweetened with stevia. Didn't appear to have a

> > reaction to that either. Probably the candida liked the cream though.

> > Didn't have much of it. I have been rebellious the last few days, but

> > staying away from sugar still. A smear of raspberry jam didn't count

> > <grin>. I did have pasta tonight though, and felt sick after that. I

> would

> > call that a reaction......

> >

> > My point being, not all foods we are to stay away from, give us

reactions.

> > Are we to assume that we can then eat them in moderation? I know I

cannot

> > eat dairy, my body doesn't like it. Cream I seem to tolerate in very

> small

> > amounts. Milk I cannot have at all. Cheese I get a doozy reaction with.

> > Cream cheese none. It's bizarre, but that's how it is. I have to

wonder

> at

> > tonight's meal. Wheat doesn't seem to give me trouble, but the pasta

> > tonight did, which is wheat. So maybe it was other things in with the

> > pasta - combinations?

> >

> > I haven't had headaches the last 2 days either. Wonder whets changed.

> > Maybe it just a " good " time of the month.

> >

> > So what is your learned opinion , Jonah, Liz, and anyone else?

> >

> >

> >

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I have to wonder...has anyone on this list...or anyone they know....ever

been healed of Candida?

Pearl (NY)

Country Living at it's finest

Countrylife

[Guest guest]

As of last week my levels are supposed to be low! i still have symptoms if i eat to much of the wrong foods, which i hear that could diminish later. Mog

[Guest guest]

I'm new to Candida and trying to ease into a new diet - not easy for a " meat

and potato " guy! Heavy reaction recently demands a change in diet but I don

t want a complete system shock

I know that each person varies but any experience with the following foods:

chicken, canned brown beans, tuna, beef, and turkey. Are pastas a no-no?

Is all rice taboo? What kind of salad dressings can be used? Are there any

websites, or sources, of recipes for Candida related foods?

Any help appreciated.

[Guest guest]

At 12:08 AM 7/6/2003 -0700, Mickey wrote:

>Knowing that many foods can aggravate PA & PS, has anyone stumbled upon

>a food that eases it? (please, no twinkies)I know that apples and apple

>juice seem to make me feel better.

Mickey, it's interesting that you should mention apples, because the French

have used apple peels in a tea as a treatment for rheumatism for centuries.

I've been eating a whole (organic) apple a day with my breakfast, and it's

great.

There's many other foods that can help ease arthritis. Ginger and garlic

are two 'superfoods' that work really well. Onions, too. A friend tells me

of a woman with arthritis who cut up a clove of garlic into three or four

pieces and swallowed them whole like pills. I'm going to give this a try

and see how much it affects my breath :-) Garlic is such a powerful food

that it can be thought of as medicine, without toxic side effects.

Other herbs/plants include rosemary and turmeric. Dandelion root & leaves

are also good. Oat straw (not rolled oats, but the straw) is good as a tea.

And as always, cold water fish high omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin A and D

and can have a significant improvement on arthritis.

What has worked very well for me is 2 cups of lightly steamed vegetables

twice a day: cauliflower (very high in vitamin K) + red cabbage

(anti-inflammatory) + broccoli (anti-oxidant) + asparagus (high in Vitamin

E, an anti-inflammatory) + carrots (rich in Vitamins ABC). I make big batch

ahead of time, cool it and eat it with a bit of salad dressing as a cold

salad. I also have herbal infusions twice a day from my own concoction of

dried herbs.

If you're interested in learning more, I *highly* recommend the book " The

Juicing Bible " by Pat Crocker & Eagles. This goes into great detail

about the medicinal properties of herbs, vegetables and fruits. My copy is

becoming dog-eared from so much use. It's an amazing book and has made a

big difference in my quality of life.

Elfstrom

[Guest guest]

, I also make a lot of fresh food ahead of time. Preparation is painful

and time consuming, and I know I won't do it three times a day. I make 2

gallons of salad at a time and keep it in the refrigerator. Between my DH and

me, we go through 2 gallons in 3 days. I buy 2 bags of different kinds of

lettuce mixes, chop up a cucumber, a bunch of green onions, a half of a small

purple onion, and grate about 4 carrots. He adds his own cherry tomatos, which

I stay away from. We eat big handfuls of this mixture with every meal. I also

steam lots of vegies at a time and keep them in the fridge - eat them cold with

a little rice vinegar and olive oil.

This is the only way I can make sure I have stuff on hand ready to go when I

don't have the energy or will to do the work.

claire

[Guest guest]

My internist suggested eating foods that had either curry or cayenne

pepper. I'm not fond of either so I'm not sure if they help or not.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Hi I have thought this before but finally decided to say it. You have

given a lot of dietary advice and I can't think of a single statement you

have made about nutrition that I would disagree with. I try to study the big

picture and have delved into nutrition and what benefits certain foods can have

but apparently you are at least 3 steps ahead of me. Ever considered writing a

book? Or maybe at least something for the files section of the group? hint

hint Orin

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At 10:18 PM 7/6/2003 -0400, Orin wrote:

>Hi I have thought this before but finally decided to say it. You have

>given a lot of dietary advice and I can't think of a single statement you

>have made about nutrition that I would disagree with. I try to study the big

>picture and have delved into nutrition and what benefits certain foods can

>have but apparently you are at least 3 steps ahead of me. Ever considered

>writing a book? Or maybe at least something for the files section of the group?

>hint Orin

Very insightful! Yes, I've been considering writing a book for a while

now. I've even registered a domain name specifically for the purposes of

creating an illustrated online book that will be free to all, covering

primarily nutrition, but also exercise and mind-body medicine. In a way

it's a story in progress because I keep learning more every day.

Since January, every email I write on this topic, every related website and

every article that I come across gets filed electronically for future use.

My greatest hurdle at this point is structuring the info I have into a

cohesive body of work. I don't want it to be dry or an overly scientific

reference; but on the other hand I don't want it to be filled with

testimonials either. Some brainstorming is in order. I may take a week off

work during this summer to make a good stab at the big picture and later

fill in the holes.

Orin, you could be of great assistance in being a scientific editor, to

keep things in check :-) Was it you who was also a technical writer, or am

I thinking of someone else on the list?

E.

[Guest guest]

---Hi ,

I always appreciate your nutrition knowledge and your willingness to

share it with us. Glad you are considering a book!

Thanks,

Marti

[Guest guest]

No I've never been employed as a writer. Most of my writing consists of

message boards, post-it notes stuck all over the place and bathroom walls. I

know what you mean about trying to assemble all your notes into something

complete but concise. I just checked and my medicine folder is 8MB, mostly

text.

There is probably that much again in photocopied studies so to tie that all

together in a way that the average person could read and understand, and

hopefully

agree with, might be a monstrous undertaking. I'm probably over-commited at

the moment as it is but if I can be of assistance I will try. You are welcome

to peruse my notes. I have a long detailed text on fatty acids that I peiced

together from many sources that you might find particularly interesting.

Thanks for all your efforts . Some psoriatic will find the kingpin one day.

Orin

[Guest guest]

-Hi Orin,

When can we ewxpect to see your book too?

Marti

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/8/03 3:34:21 PM Central Daylight Time, mlw402@...

writes:

> -Hi Orin,

>

> When can we ewxpect to see your book too?

>

> Marti

>

Well Marti as soon as I've made my second million (HA) I should have a bit

more free time to devote to more personal interests, including writing and

research. I will send you the first copy. Right now I've gotta focus on making

a

way to pay some bills. Orin

[Guest guest]

Hi

Bit behind on my email reading at the moment, but will reply to this one

anyway!

I haven't done any technical writing but if you want any help I've got some

free time at the moment.

Jo

[Guest guest]

Yes, , I'm sure your book would be very popular among all of us

' " groupies " .

I have done some technical writing; nothing as extensive as your book. I agree

that the hardest part is deciding on an organization and then sorting through

your material and putting into the categories you've chosen. Good luck, Sylvia

snowbound22003 <mlw402@...> wrote:

---Hi ,

I always appreciate your nutrition knowledge and your willingness to

share it with us. Glad you are considering a book!

Thanks,

Marti

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