Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 This is a fascinating study. It essentially says that dirty air makes women dumber as they get older. No offense is intended. Not sure why men were not affected (unless we are already dumber !. We know that PM 10 and PM 2.5 was significantly higher in the 30s to the 60s before air pollutions regulations. I don't remember my grand mother's being less aware at this ripe old age, because they were both dead. (Due to air pollution?) So this study had to have been conducted based on TSP data POST air pollution regulations. 1970s. 80s, etc. Does this mean that the TSP regulations are not restrictive enough? The secondary TSP standard is 60 µg/m3. The study says that " a 10 microgram/m3 increase in long term PM exposure was cognitively equivalent to aging by approximately 2 years. " 60 µg/m3 is a low outside level. Getting it much lower may not be possible due to anthropometric sources. The PM 2.5 standard is 15 µg/m3. so this can't go much lower. What this is leading me to conclude is that there was a lot more INDOOR TSP and PM 2.5 exposure. The lack of evaluation of INDOOR exposures on long term air quality studies has been one of their criticisms over the years. This one seems to be especially critical. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Perhaps a better model than the weight/mass of particulates in the air is considering what will dissolve through the alveoli into the bloodstream when said pollution is inhaled. As a peculiarly sensitized individual, it was confusing early on to discover that the HEPA filters I bought only made a difference for a day or two before reaching steady state. Likewise discovering that I could make a difference in my family's health (and cognitive ability) by changing a furnace filter which was only a few days old under certain circumstances. Concluded that what science knew how to measure is not aligned with what is affecting my nervous system. Two observations on what's changed in the last 40 years: Wood burning: clean, seasoned wood is maybe 1 or 2% " ash content " . By ash I mean low molecular weight, water soluble inorganics from the soil. The approximation that all wood is the organics which in perfect combustion become water and CO2 neglects this component. Some of the ash lands in the bottom of the fireplace. Some goes up the chimney. Before pollution controls what went up the chimney was typically stuck to large particulates which fell out of the air quickly. With much better combustion, it's dissolved in the water exiting the chimney (even more so industrially when the particulates are removed by pollution control equipment). Meaning all of it can reach my lungs. Nanograms of PM0.1 impact me far more than micrograms of PM 2.5. Auto exhaust: starting in 1974 the use of catalytic converters changed previous air pollutants into sulfuric and nitric acids coming out the tailpipes of cars dissolved in the water resulting from combustion. The subsequent issues around precipitation with pH significantly below 7, and very brutal special interest politics in this area during the 1980s, faded without public understanding of how this issue was resolved. Having been a kid in Los Angeles in the 1960s I fully appreciate the value of auto pollution controls. However, I remain surprised that reported NOx pollution measurements to this day include NO and NO2 but not NO3. I also don't know what was added to that nitric and sulfuric acid coming out auto tailpipes to get its pH closer to 7, but noted with interest the paper a few years ago citing an unusual presence of iron in/on some tree leaves along a busy street. There are more things which have changed in the last 40 years: widespread use of petrochemical-solvent fragrances; universal use of pesticides; fabric finishes in the clothes and bedding one is in contact with 24 hours a day; likewise the detergents used to clean those clothes and bedding, and the increased amount of detergent residue left in the clothes as we reduce the water consumption of washers; the ubiquitous use of anodized metal finishes in commercial buildings which shed their surface into the ambient air instead of needing labor intensive cleaning/polishing; repurposing of air conditioning as temperature control only rather than its initial purpose of humidity control; reduction of ventilation in both commercial and residential buildings to save energy/money. Back to the study below: whether it means the outdoor air isn't clean enough to dilute the indoor air any more, or that the outdoor PM is correlated with but not the cause of the decline, or more likely something else, we don't know. My personal experience is that the models science uses today don't account for what happens to me. My guess is that we won't really understand the causation behind this study's results until science finds a new generation of models. Steve Chalmers stevec@... > > This is a fascinating study. It essentially says that dirty air makes women dumber as they get older. No offense > is intended. Not sure why men were not affected (unless we are already dumber !. > > We know that PM 10 and PM 2.5 was significantly higher in the 30s to the 60s before air pollutions regulations. > > I don't remember my grand mother's being less aware at this ripe old age, because they were both dead. (Due to air pollution?) > > So this study had to have been conducted based on TSP data POST air pollution regulations. 1970s. 80s, etc. > > Does this mean that the TSP regulations are not restrictive enough? The secondary TSP standard is 60 µg/m3. > > The study says that " a 10 microgram/m3 increase in long term PM exposure was cognitively equivalent to aging by approximately 2 years. " > > 60 µg/m3 is a low outside level. Getting it much lower may not be possible due to anthropometric sources. > > The PM 2.5 standard is 15 µg/m3. so this can't go much lower. > > What this is leading me to conclude is that there was a lot more INDOOR TSP and PM 2.5 exposure. > > The lack of evaluation of INDOOR exposures on long term air quality studies has been one of their criticisms over the years. > This one seems to be especially critical. > > Bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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