Re: Milk diet details (long)

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Jerome--

(I'm so happy you're on this List...)

Anyway, to address your experience with Coffee...

Coffee helps to keep the Liver flushed out. As long as the stuff hasn't

been sprayed to death with DDT, etc, (No Maxwell House products here) you

can drink it without SUGAR....(now we're talking the Bad Whey....lol)

Sugar does something very bad when it gets mixed with the acids in coffee.

Even Weil mentions this. Black is not the way I go, too acidic.

I've used a product called AlkaPro Drops to make the stuff more Alkaline if

it ends up too strong. Cream works just fine, but Half & Half has to be

from a good local dairy not using rBGH. Buy Organic if its available, but

Eight-O-Clock always tests out with kinesiology too.

Don't drink it alone, but with some food. This modulates its troublesome

effects, but gives you the liver boost so many of us need. Even having a

bad flu and taking some drugstore painkillers can mess up a perfectly good

liver. I did it with Nuprin.

--Terry

PS -- And hey, I'm 52 by the way. We Motown generation people are just

Rockin'....aren't we...?

Milk diet details (long)

> Joyce Koehler wrote:

> > Jerome,

> >

> > Thanks so much for the info. May I ask - are you consuming nothing

> > but super-milk & cream ( for these 17 days)? I'd love to try this, but

> > have to wait for next month's income to arrive... Have you felt strong

> > and not too tired throughout this period? How long are you planning on

> > continuing this diet? Sorry - I'm falling all over with questions, so

> > happy to know there is a source, though the expense will be a problem.

> >

> > Got to be a way though... Thank you again, for your patience too!

> >

>

> Joyce,

>

> *Almost* nothing but raw milk, super-milk & cream. The exceptions were:

> One or two Twinlab " Maxilife " multivitamin/mineral supplements per day,

> and an average of 1-2 fresh oranges per day for the first 10 or so days

> (They looked good to me, tasted great, and fruit was recommended as

> an antidote to constipation). Since the oranges, I've also had some

> apple slices (about 1/4 of a large Granny ) a couple of times,

> and lately I'm taking about a teaspoon of psyllium husks in water,

> twice per day as a fiber supplement. Around day 15 I started taking

> one tablespoon of cod liver oil per day (when I remember).

>

> My energy was very good before I started, having improved significantly

> since eliminating grains and most other carbs about six months before,

> and eliminating alchohol and caffine about two months before.

>

> Of all these things, the only one that seemed to make me feel weaker

> was cutting out the caffine. (I had been a 4 cup per morning tea

> tea drinker.) Even six weeks after quitting, I still felt like my

> energy had not quite come back up to my caffine-drinking levels.

>

> Now, on milk, super-milk, and cream, my energy is great, arguably the

> best it's been in 15 years (I'm 50), maybe the best it's ever been!

>

> I did not experience any lethargy going onto this diet. There was a

> feeling of withdrawal from solid foods, a feeling that I was missing

> them, that the day was not complete without a meal or a snack that was

> solid. There were some feelings of malaise and unhappiness connected

> with the constipation that I experienced after a day or two, which was

> remedied first by increasing the fruit and then by adding the fiber.

> (If I were to do it again, I'd just add bulking fiber (of some sort)

> from the beginning to avoid any intestinal discomfort). The fruit felt

> a bit out-of-place on the diet, very sugary and very different

> from the milk in my stomach, so I've dropped it for now.

>

> Though there was nothing I would call " lethargy " , there have been

> short periods (perhaps half an hour to one hour and a half) when I

> have felt like I " over-dosed " by drinking too much milk and put my

> body into either a glycemic induced insulin shock, or just over-stuffed

> myself... As I go on, I'm learning to " pace " myself better, allowing

> more time before drinking that third quart within the hour!

>

> One of my big concerns, going in to this, was the high carbohydrate

> content of milk. My big health gains the previous six months had come

> from cutting out most carbohydrates and including ever more of the N.T.

> foods that were low in carbs, like lots of grass-fed beef, cheeeses,

> local barnyard eggs, et cetera. After the first week, I concluded that

> I had added a bit more fat around my gut; not a lot, but I was " fattening

up " . That could easily be because I had become too thin,

> but I think it could also be because the Organic Pastures milk is only

> 3.5% butterfat. So starting the second week, I began adding some extra

> cream to each quart or gallon of milk in an effort to improve the fat

> to sugar ratio. I tried for about 1-2 oz extra cream per quart.

> That was so YUMMY! I brought it to the local WAPF pot-luck and four

> of us sipped up several quarts! Later, when I realized that adding

> this much cream was costing me an extra four dollars per gallon, I cut

> down to adding " only " 4 oz per gallon. Now, at day 18, I think I've

> stopped putting on gut fat, while the fats the rest of my body, or at

> least in my skin, which I can see, appear to be being replaced rapidly

> by the wonderful, clean, healthy fats from these spring-pasture cows!

>

> There could be other reasons why/how I avoided lethargy, including:

> already de-toxed, (by high animal fat, low carb diet); already de-toxed

> by intense series of Bikram yoga (where you sweat pints and quarts,

> whilest squeeeeezing the tissues, alternately cutting off and then

> flooding the tissues with new blood and lymph circulation); and last,

> falling deeper in love with life (and my wife) by beginning to practice

> the ancient art of tantra.

>

> So this has been more of a personal quest than a single-variable

> scientific test. Your Milage May Vary. I was simply reading Ron Schmid's

book, came upon the story of J.R. Crewe and " The Milk Cure " .

> It was Spring, and both the scientist and the milk lover within me

> said: " Let's test it! Let's see what happens if I do this when I'm

> already 'healthy'. " Secretly, I was hoping for another 'miracle'

> in my health, something big like I had seen from adding the healthy

> animal fats and eliminating the empty carbs. I got my wish!

>

> How long do I plan to do this diet? At the moment, I'm tentatively

> committed to four weeks, but plan to do further research (read Dr.

> Crewe's paper, for example) and, of course, pay close attention to

> how I feel and listen to what my body seems to be asking for.

>

> So far, I've noticed that I am feeling that this milk & cream feels

> really " clean " and " alive " . The " food " I see others eating all looks

> so " dead " and/or " nutrient sparse " to me. What I would like to add

> next is *more* dairy! If the somewhat commerical, somewhat-alfafa-

> -and-grain-fed milk I've been drinking can help me feel this good,

> then I crave tasting milk from 100%-grass-eating cows! (How about

> the milk from cows that graze the new, green grasses growing just

> below the melting snow-line, in the high mountain valleys!).

> I crave cheeses and kefirs made from such milk! That's the kind of

> food I will be seeking next!

>

> Well my morning milk has been warming up out on the counter for the

> last hour or two, so perhaps it's time to go out there, shake it up,

> and pour out my first mug of the day...

>

> - Jerome, now starting day 18 of raw milk, cream and colostrum

>

>

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>

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" Sara L. Rheault " wrote:

> Jerome,

> I've been following this thread with much interest.

> I am really inspired by your success!

> One question I do have, ala Joyce (it's so nice to see you chiming

> in by the way, Joyce!) ... is how much milk on average are you

> drinking per day? Has the amount gone up since Day #1 ?

> Ooops that turned into 2 questions! Keep up the good work!

> (And keep reporting in!)

> Sara

Sara,

I started with four quarts the first day. Over time, it has increased

to six to eight quarts per day.

- Jerome, now in 18th day of Milk, Cream and Colostrum

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" Terry L. " wrote:

> Jerome--

> (I'm so happy you're on this List...)

> Anyway, to address your experience with Coffee...

<coffee information snipped>

>

> PS -- And hey, I'm 52 by the way. We Motown generation people

> are just Rockin'....aren't we...?

Yeah! Though I don't know how much Motown has to do with it!

I very much enjoy your posts here, Terry!

- Jerome, on day 18 of Raw Milk, Cream and Colostrum

> > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

> > -------------------------------------------------

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Joyce,

I started at four quarts per day and am currently up to between six

and eight quarts per day.

- Jerome, now in day 18 of Milk, Cream and Colostrum