Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 In a message dated 12/29/2002 6:03:06 PM Central Standard Time, maurice@... writes: > I think the main thing that stops me is my need for instant > gratification ... I have to wait a few days ... before I can > seriously evaluate my soap. Actually, that's part of the addiction ... soapsitting - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 <<< I suspect the issue with the vaccuum packer is that as soap ages, h20 evapourates out of it. If you hold that water in, it could cause the soap to mould and become icky (technical term). Maurice, you really must try making soap..*grin* >>> I have serious doubts about the ability of soap molding but I do agree that Maurice needs to try making true soap. ; ) It is easy and fun Maurice. No work to it at all your skin will love you for it. Just email for a recipe and instructions and I will guide you through hp soap. ; ) This question was asked on my list also by someone who saw it and I have to agree with Maurice. I think it would work as long as the soap has dried saponified (cold process) and dried a couple days (good hot process recipe). It sounded to me like Willie was talking about a cured soap that had not yet sold. In that case I think it would work well, but I am only logically guessing not having experiemented with it personally. Dee ¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:.¸:.¸.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸:.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>·´¯`·: http:/www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Merin, Where do you get this mold to put in the oven? le K. Fleming, Proprietor DK Mind & Body ~Your source for Natural Body Care Products 506 South Blakely St. Dunmore, PA 18512 www.dkmindandbody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 >It is easy and fun Maurice. No work to it at all your skin will loveÿyou for it. My mother told me about women like you! Yes, I will. I will make soap just to say that I've done it. I'll probably becomes a soap junkie looking for the holy grail of oils that will take my body and mind to high levels of enlightenment and sensual pleasure. Actually, this is quite true. I've created a lot of soaping ideas and theories that I would like to explore. I think the main thing that stops me is my need for instant gratification. If I make a shampoo, shower gel, cream or lotion today, I can use it tomorrow. From what I can see, I have to wait a few days until the saponification process has essentailly stopped before I can seriously evaluate my soap. ZZZzzzz.... Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 > I think the main thing that stops me is my need for instant > gratification. If I make a shampoo, shower gel, cream or lotion today, > I can use it tomorrow. From what I can see, I have to wait a few days > until the saponification process has essentailly stopped before I can > seriously evaluate my soap. Maurice: Just remember, patience is a virtue. <weg> di - running & ducking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Maurice, you have't lived until you've watched soap cure. Cs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 There's CPOP, also known as ITMHP (in the mold hot > process), whereby you make CP as normal but once you put it in the mold you > pop it in the oven for a couple hours. This speeds up the gel process and > once cooled (after 12-14 hours) the soap is sapped and safe to use. Merin, what temperature do you keep your oven at for this process? Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. pat@... http://www.houseofscents.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Ahhh...but there *are* ways to achieve (nearly) instant gratification with soapmaking. There's CPOP, also known as ITMHP (in the mold hot process), whereby you make CP as normal but once you put it in the mold you pop it in the oven for a couple hours. This speeds up the gel process and once cooled (after 12-14 hours) the soap is sapped and safe to use. It is best to let it dry out for a few days, but it can be used immediately. There's also hot process, typically done in a crock pot or double boiler, but I don't mess with that. The soap doesn't come out nearly as pretty...at least not for me. Plus, I hate the idea of standing over a pot for hours. I don't even cook food...let alone my soap... Merin I never fail. I succeed at finding what doesn't work. -- Titus > I think the main thing that stops me is my need for instant > gratification. If I make a shampoo, shower gel, cream or lotion > today, I can use it tomorrow. From what I can see, I have to wait > a few days until the saponification process has essentailly stopped > before I can seriously evaluate my soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 170 F. Merin I never fail. I succeed at finding what doesn't work. -- Titus > Merin, what temperature do you keep your oven at for this process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Will send you a private email with some enticing details on ideas and then you can decide what you want to do from there. =) Dee ><)))*> > > My mother told me about women like you! > > Yes, I will. I will make soap just to say that I've done it. I'll > probably becomes a soap junkie looking for the holy grail of oils that > will take my body and mind to high levels of enlightenment and sensual > pleasure. > > Actually, this is quite true. I've created a lot of soaping ideas and > theories that I would like to explore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 The only think about CPOP is ensuring you have proper wood that has not been treated with anything that will leech into the soap. Not sure where you learned to make HP crockpot Merin but there is no standing over anything and stirring my way. You get to kick back and relax once you trace the soap...as slong as you don't stray from the directions, that is. <G> Dee ><))*> > Ahhh...but there *are* ways to achieve (nearly) instant gratification with > soapmaking. There's CPOP, also known as ITMHP (in the mold hot > process), whereby you make CP as normal but once you put it in the mold you > pop it in the oven for a couple hours. .....snip............. > There's also hot process, typically done in a crock pot or double boiler, > but I don't mess with that.....snip.......I hate the idea of standing over a pot for hours. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 But while you wait, you can make shampoo's, lotions, etc and/or clean the house from top to bottom and make a gourmet meal. Cori ----- Original Message ----- I think the main thing that stops me is my need for instant gratification. If I make a shampoo, shower gel, cream or lotion today, I can use it tomorrow. From what I can see, I have to wait a few days until the saponification process has essentailly stopped before I can seriously evaluate my soap. ZZZzzzz.... Maurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 - sgsoaps@... - has an oven safe mold. http://www.kelseiscreations.com has wooden molds that go in the oven as well. I just keep my temps as low as possible and haven't had any issues so far. Merin I never fail. I succeed at finding what doesn't work. -- Titus > Merin, > Where do you get this mold to put in the oven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Hello! Out hardwood molds do fine in the oven also. They have not been treated with any chemicals. They wood is harvested locally from family farms. HTH, Jan S www.sweetprairiesoap.com jans@... e-mail for paypal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 We carry wooden molds and an adjustable soap cutter too. Many great testimonials! I consistently use our molds for ITMHP (In The Mold Hot Process) and they are still in great shape .. 18 months later! HTH, Lezlee www.SimpleSoothings.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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