Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, nonicafe1@... writes: Hello Jorn, There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with a similar condition Here's what I would do: Go to www.cancertutor.com imediately and make contact with Webster, the author of the site. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WOW! I'm saving this for possible future reference! Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Dear nonicafe1 Thank you so much for your valuable response. To answer one of your implied questions, the reason I am following an MS moderated board is two-fold: (1) I have a friend who's daughter suffers from MS (amongst other ailments) and am trying to provide helpful info for her situation - unfortunately, they are very conventional oriented and I doubt they will act on any of the info I provide them. (2) I have read Dr. Bihari's web site where several advanced cases og cancer/Melanoma are described with astounding results. As for your advice on Cesium Chloride - I agree with your assessment and have recently talked to Larry of Essence of Life. He has treated over 1500 advanced cancer patients, both human and animal, over the last few years with good results - quote " better than 50% survival " . However, it does sound like a pretty brutal treatment - pain is to be expected and also feeling very ill (nausea, fatigue, diarrhea, etc.) in addition to some risks regarding liver and heart functions. That is why we are looking for possible alternatives. I agree with you, though, that at my son's advanced stage, we should probably opt for a, at least somewhat proven, radical treatment - like a now-or-never situation. Again, thank you for your kind response. Best regards, jorn > Hello Jorn, > > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with > a similar condition Here's what I would do: > > Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com) imediately and > make contact with Webster, the author of the site. > > Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment history. Ask > Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for such an > advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes instantly. The site > isn't commercialized at all. > > There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of destroying > cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid the body of all > the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with whatever > protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone. > > Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and realize that > Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of cancer. > It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions carefully and with > expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The main > consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is done with the > Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening every two weeks. > Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the protocols on the > site. > > The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO acting as the > carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement. The DMSO binds > with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the cancer > killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely acidic state. > The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high alkaline > environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain. > > If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure is > invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it does take over the > spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there is bone > invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a collapse causing > spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point downward. > > If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the tumor is > small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get Cesium to do the > job on that tumor, as soon as possible!! > > If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a surgeon to > screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the affected > joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and scheduled I'd have my > son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd have my son > on the Cesium. > > The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of action for > the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a fresh PET Scan > for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of Radiation these > days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be given > without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant thought...but... > > If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider surgical > removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is not an option, > and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent, I might give > serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink the tumor. > The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the Radiation, and with > great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of Toxemia. > > Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his bloodstream ASAP if > the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing regenerative powers > of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial at present > time. > > We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the body. > Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is used, I would be > giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most effective immune > boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the CancerTutor > site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for my son, and the > immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get started > with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded. > > I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies being > administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or the other...for any > Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's fast...it's safe. It's > been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries by US > medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies. > > The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more time the > cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at this stage > would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN Therapy alone could > lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the LDN doesn't act > quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty of > verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer therapy. An added bonus > is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN, unfortunatley, > doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any Stage cancer, I > would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of a forum that > deals primarily with MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Hello Marcie, Thank you very much for your response. You are probably right when emphazising " rapidly enough " - time is very much of the essense. I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is offering a Cesium Chloride therapy. My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in combination with LDN. Best regards, jorn > In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, > nonicafe1@a... writes: > > > > Hello Jorn, > > > > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to > > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone > > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with > > a similar condition Here's what I would do: > > > > Go to <A HREF= " http://www.cancertutor.com/ " >www.cancertutor.com</A> imediately and make contact with Webster, the > > author of the site. > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > WOW! I'm saving this for possible future reference! > > Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile combination therapy on a 60 day Cycle ..Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that he gets enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that while on the Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as to avoid kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not be taken uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle. Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile, Cesium Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration. [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... > Hello Marcie, > > Thank you very much for your response. > > You are probably right when emphazising " rapidly enough " - time is > very much of the essense. > > I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through > that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is > offering a Cesium Chloride therapy. > > My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in > combination with LDN. > > Best regards, > jorn > > >> In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, >> nonicafe1@a... writes: >> >> >> > Hello Jorn, >> > >> > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen > much to >> > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough > to save someone >> > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a > loved one with >> > a similar condition Here's what I would do: >> > >> > Go to <A > HREF= " http://www.cancertutor.com/ " >www.cancertutor.com</A> > imediately and make contact with Webster, the >> > author of the site. >> > >> > >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> WOW! I'm saving this for possible future reference! >> >> Marcie > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I have no experience of your problems, but in my continued research into methods to find a better solution to MS can I suggest potential routes of research for you. Various oxygenation therapies maybe start with reading The Unmedical Miracle Oxygen ISBN 1-887314-26-1 http://www.proverbs4v7.com/health/oxygen_book.html Royal Rife Devises and other suggestions in Barry Lynes book The Cancer Conspiracy ISBN 1-885273-12-6 www.barrylynes.com I wish you all the best, LDN is absolutely great I am just not sure it will be sufficient for you, hence the other suggestions. Dave Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:51:36 -0000 From: "jorn_havmann" <jorn@...>Subject: Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O...Hello Marcie,Thank you very much for your response.You are probably right when emphazising "rapidly enough" - time is very much of the essense.I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is offering a Cesium Chloride therapy. My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in combination with LDN.Best regards,jorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Hello Steve, Thank you for your valuable advise and the references. I realize this is primarily a LDN discussion group and the subject of Cesium Chloride more properly belong on cesiumtherapy/ but, since Cesium Chloride will probably be my son's chosen therapy in the next few days, I can't help asking for your experiences with that particular therapy. To spare this group for a Cesium discussion, I would very much appreciate a post to the above mentioned Cesium group or a private e- mail to jorn@... describing your experiences. Good health and all the best of luck to you. jorn. > I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile combination > therapy on a 60 day Cycle > .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that he gets > enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that while on the > Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as to avoid > kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not be taken > uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle. > > Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile, Cesium > Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration. > ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, jorn@... writes: Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. Small correction: The web address your provided (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address is www.thewholfeclinic.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions? Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Cesium is not just for cancer. 1-It is used to create an alkaline terrain within the body's biochemistry to make it inhospitable for disease initiation of any kind.Almost ANY disease that occurs in the human body is amplified by an acidic state.Cesium helps to keep the body basic (alkaline).This can also be accomplished with Barley Grass Powder, Wheat Grass etc., which are less extreme and safer to use. Go to www.thewholfeclinic.com and download for free their alkaline diet for changing the internal terrain of the body. 2-Cesium is also used with other supplements and vitamins to keep the acids of the stomach from breaking them down before they have a chance to enter the bloodstream and the lymphatic system. Why take vitamins and supplements if your stomach acids are going to destroy 50% of them on contact?Cesium helps prevent this. I won't say any more because others may think this is off topic.However it is at the very basic core of fighting ANY disease. [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... > Hello Steve, > > Thank you for your valuable advise and the references. > > I realize this is primarily a LDN discussion group and the subject > of Cesium Chloride more properly belong on > cesiumtherapy/ but, since > Cesium Chloride will probably be my son's chosen therapy in the next > few days, I can't help asking for your experiences with that > particular therapy. > > To spare this group for a Cesium discussion, I would very much > appreciate a post to the above mentioned Cesium group or a private e- > mail to jorn@... describing your experiences. > > Good health and all the best of luck to you. > jorn. > > >> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile > combination >> therapy on a 60 day Cycle >> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that > he gets >> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that > while on the >> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as > to avoid >> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not > be taken >> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle. >> >> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile, > Cesium >> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration. >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. Small correction: The web address your provided (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address is www.thewholfeclinic.com Regards jorn > >> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile > > combination > >> therapy on a 60 day Cycle > >> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that > > he gets > >> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that > > while on the > >> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as > > to avoid > >> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not > > be taken > >> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle. > >> > >> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile, > > Cesium > >> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/ Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, jorn@... writes: Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. Small correction: The web address your provided (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address is www.thewholfeclinic.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions? Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 sorry - sorry - sorry - I really blew this one - I just repeated the incorrect address but here is the REAL one (I hope) www.thewolfeclinic.com (I just tested it - it works for me now) > http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/ > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... > > > In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, jorn@h... writes: > > > > Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. > Small correction: The web address your provided > (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address > is www.thewholfeclinic.com > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions? > > Marcie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Thanks...noted [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... > Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. > Small correction: The web address your provided > (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address > is www.thewholfeclinic.com > > Regards > jorn > > > >> >> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile >> > combination >> >> therapy on a 60 day Cycle >> >> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure > that >> > he gets >> >> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that >> > while on the >> >> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as >> > to avoid >> >> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should > not >> > be taken >> >> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle. >> >> >> >> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on > Laetrile, >> > Cesium >> >> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 No problem Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential > LDN user with Melanoma/O... >> >> >> In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, > jorn@h... writes: >> >> >> >> Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. >> Small correction: The web address your provided >> (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct > address >> is www.thewholfeclinic.com >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions? >> >> Marcie >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 My Personal Experience With Low Dose Naltrexone and Cancer My Name is Tom and my screen name is TomOnLDN. I will be in my third year of Stage IV malignant melanoma which had metastasized to the lymph glands in my neck, shoulders and under my arms. CT's confirmed that it had metastasized to the lymph's under my jaw on the left side and around the spine at the back of my neck. The lymph node under my jaw is swollen the size of an unshelled walnut. Research on the internet in areas that the medical profession use educated me to the fact that when there are tumors with the melanoma; they are larger than 1/16th inch in diameter and the cancer has spread to the lymphatic system, it is in stage IV and convention treatments with chemo and radiation are no longer effective. In other words, it is to late by their thinking. Two weeks prior to finding I had stage IV melanoma, I also had squamous cell carcinoma which started on the top of my forehead and spread to and around my eye, into the sinus cavity and towards my mouth. So under my circumstances, I opted to go 100% natural. So I set out researching cancer for the past three years. I my research, I came the conclusion, especially from the methods I have been using, that cancer and other diseases can not be necessarily cure, but managed to help keep in remission. I first started out with a good nutritional diet and keep myself very alkaline. Cancer can only thrive in an acidic environment. In addressing my tumors, I decide to opt for the use of a drawing salve (black salve), in my case, Cansema. I documented in every detail, along with hundreds of pictures, the two years I used the salve to draw out tumors. Some of the tumors were as big as ½ too ¾ inches in diameter. The problem with this method, was that the tumors were producing faster than I could keep up with. In my research, this possibly was brought on by edema which was cause by the aggressiveness of the salve. So I knew I was going to have to make some adjustments. One year into my battle, the spring of 2004, I added to my therapy Wobenzym N from Mucos Pharma in Germany and approved for sale in the US. This is a superb product that I still use to this day. Enzyme therapy is very important in any disease or prevention of disease. I started out on 60 pills a day to as little as 30 a day. I was introduced to two different kinesiologist. One in Kentucky and one in Michigan, both who monitoring me the past two and a half years. It is with their help, I was able to know how much Wobenzym N and other necessary supplements I need to take as well as what was effective and what was not. They also monitored my diet as well. As well as all this was working for me, I still had flair ups in my cancer activity every time my immune system was compromised and I got real ill. So I decided that I needed to research more and look for something else that would enhance my immune system to keep this cancer in remission. Then a friend of mine told me about being put on low dose naltrexone for his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in January of this year (2005). He knew very little about this product. So I started to do my home work. I found the Low Dose Naltrexone website and after reading about the women's experience in France that had three month s to live due to melanoma that had spread to the brain, and lived for twelve years afterward until she stopped taking LDN, I said this is the product I want to take. I went to three doctors that I have known for some years, and no would write me the prescription. Their excuse was that it was not FDA approved for that use. I reminded them of other drugs that they prescribed for other uses beyond would the FDA had approved them for, but that did not convince them. One even wanted me to have surgery. I knew better or they were not well educated that surgery is to late for stage IV melanoma. I ended up having to be paired with a doctor in Ohio who is on LDN for MS to get my prescription. Once I received the LDN I had my kinesiologist test me. In testing my endorphin level, it was only at 10%. Testing with LDN, I was not responding due to a malabsorption problem. I suggested that we try D-5 Extra along with the LDN. When tested, my endorphin level went to 90%. I could absorb the naltrexone I started the low dose naltrexone in March of 2005. Prior to getting on LDN, I contacted a serious upper respiratory infection that caused my cancer activity to flair up 60%. My lymph nodes swelled as well. After starting on the LDN in March, I again, in April, contacted a serious upper respiratory infection, but this time my cancer activity did not flair up! That told me it was working. My report from my kinesiologist this week, Oct 18, 2005, was that even though I still had my cancer, it was not active. The naltrexone was keeping it under control. She was amazed herself. So I even though I am on naltrexone, I still watch my diet. I think that this is very important when fighting any disease that naltrexone is being used for. It can do no more than help enhance the effectiveness of the drug. As far as it keeping me awake at night, I do not have that problem because I also take 3 mg of Melatonin at bedtime. It is important that one is in a good, deep sleep when taking LDN, Light of any kind can disrupt the sleep pattern. Therefore the bedroom should be pitch black at night or at least wear a sleeping mask. Today, I am thankful to God for giving me the wisdom and insight to educate myself on how to manage my cancer. And I am also thankful for Dr. Bahari for his dedication to the research of LDN, which in my opinion, could be one of the most valuable, life saving and life enhancing drugs every discovered that even someone going the alternative, natural route, would not even think twice about before taking it. Tom Armstrong > > Hello Jorn, > > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with > a similar condition Here's what I would do: > > Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com) imediately and > make contact with Webster, the author of the site. > > Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment history. Ask > Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for such an > advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes instantly. The site > isn't commercialized at all. > > There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of destroying > cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid the body of all > the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with whatever > protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone. > > Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and realize that > Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of cancer. > It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions carefully and with > expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The main > consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is done with the > Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening every two weeks. > Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the protocols on the > site. > > The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO acting as the > carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement. The DMSO binds > with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the cancer > killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely acidic state. > The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high alkaline > environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain. > > If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure is > invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it does take over the > spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there is bone > invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a collapse causing > spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point downward. > > If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the tumor is > small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get Cesium to do the > job on that tumor, as soon as possible!! > > If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a surgeon to > screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the affected > joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and scheduled I'd have my > son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd have my son > on the Cesium. > > The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of action for > the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a fresh PET Scan > for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of Radiation these > days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be given > without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant thought...but... > > If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider surgical > removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is not an option, > and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent, I might give > serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink the tumor. > The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the Radiation, and with > great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of Toxemia. > > Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his bloodstream ASAP if > the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing regenerative powers > of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial at present > time. > > We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the body. > Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is used, I would be > giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most effective immune > boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the CancerTutor > site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for my son, and the > immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get started > with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded. > > I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies being > administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or the other...for any > Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's fast...it's safe. It's > been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries by US > medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies. > > The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more time the > cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at this stage > would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN Therapy alone could > lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the LDN doesn't act > quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty of > verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer therapy. An added bonus > is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN, unfortunatley, > doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any Stage cancer, I > would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of a forum that > deals primarily with MS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Tom, Thank you for sharing this truly amazing story. I've often heard of the importance of eating an alkaline diet, but am in a bit of a quandary for my situation. I'm trying to eat on SCD to heal my gut, and also trying to go low oxalates. With both of these diets, it seems that they are very acidic, and so there's lots of meat, and not as many vegetables as I would like. Did you have any of these issues? if so, what did you do? Thank you again for sharing your story of healing, Marilyn [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O... My Personal Experience With Low Dose Naltrexone and Cancer My Name is Tom and my screen name is TomOnLDN. I will be in my third year of Stage IV malignant melanoma which had metastasized to the lymph glands in my neck, shoulders and under my arms. CT's confirmed that it had metastasized to the lymph's under my jaw on the left side and around the spine at the back of my neck. The lymph node under my jaw is swollen the size of an unshelled walnut. Research on the internet in areas that the medical profession use educated me to the fact that when there are tumors with the melanoma; they are larger than 1/16th inch in diameter and the cancer has spread to the lymphatic system, it is in stage IV and convention treatments with chemo and radiation are no longer effective. In other words, it is to late by their thinking. Two weeks prior to finding I had stage IV melanoma, I also had squamous cell carcinoma which started on the top of my forehead and spread to and around my eye, into the sinus cavity and towards my mouth. So under my circumstances, I opted to go 100% natural. So I set out researching cancer for the past three years. I my research, I came the conclusion, especially from the methods I have been using, that cancer and other diseases can not be necessarily cure, but managed to help keep in remission. I first started out with a good nutritional diet and keep myself very alkaline. Cancer can only thrive in an acidic environment. In addressing my tumors, I decide to opt for the use of a drawing salve (black salve), in my case, Cansema. I documented in every detail, along with hundreds of pictures, the two years I used the salve to draw out tumors. Some of the tumors were as big as ½ too ¾ inches in diameter. The problem with this method, was that the tumors were producing faster than I could keep up with. In my research, this possibly was brought on by edema which was cause by the aggressiveness of the salve. So I knew I was going to have to make some adjustments. One year into my battle, the spring of 2004, I added to my therapy Wobenzym N from Mucos Pharma in Germany and approved for sale in the US. This is a superb product that I still use to this day. Enzyme therapy is very important in any disease or prevention of disease. I started out on 60 pills a day to as little as 30 a day. I was introduced to two different kinesiologist. One in Kentucky and one in Michigan, both who monitoring me the past two and a half years. It is with their help, I was able to know how much Wobenzym N and other necessary supplements I need to take as well as what was effective and what was not. They also monitored my diet as well. As well as all this was working for me, I still had flair ups in my cancer activity every time my immune system was compromised and I got real ill. So I decided that I needed to research more and look for something else that would enhance my immune system to keep this cancer in remission. Then a friend of mine told me about being put on low dose naltrexone for his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in January of this year (2005). He knew very little about this product. So I started to do my home work. I found the Low Dose Naltrexone website and after reading about the women's experience in France that had three month s to live due to melanoma that had spread to the brain, and lived for twelve years afterward until she stopped taking LDN, I said this is the product I want to take. I went to three doctors that I have known for some years, and no would write me the prescription. Their excuse was that it was not FDA approved for that use. I reminded them of other drugs that they prescribed for other uses beyond would the FDA had approved them for, but that did not convince them. One even wanted me to have surgery. I knew better or they were not well educated that surgery is to late for stage IV melanoma. I ended up having to be paired with a doctor in Ohio who is on LDN for MS to get my prescription. Once I received the LDN I had my kinesiologist test me. In testing my endorphin level, it was only at 10%. Testing with LDN, I was not responding due to a malabsorption problem. I suggested that we try D-5 Extra along with the LDN. When tested, my endorphin level went to 90%. I could absorb the naltrexone I started the low dose naltrexone in March of 2005. Prior to getting on LDN, I contacted a serious upper respiratory infection that caused my cancer activity to flair up 60%. My lymph nodes swelled as well. After starting on the LDN in March, I again, in April, contacted a serious upper respiratory infection, but this time my cancer activity did not flair up! That told me it was working. My report from my kinesiologist this week, Oct 18, 2005, was that even though I still had my cancer, it was not active. The naltrexone was keeping it under control. She was amazed herself. So I even though I am on naltrexone, I still watch my diet. I think that this is very important when fighting any disease that naltrexone is being used for. It can do no more than help enhance the effectiveness of the drug. As far as it keeping me awake at night, I do not have that problem because I also take 3 mg of Melatonin at bedtime. It is important that one is in a good, deep sleep when taking LDN, Light of any kind can disrupt the sleep pattern. Therefore the bedroom should be pitch black at night or at least wear a sleeping mask. Today, I am thankful to God for giving me the wisdom and insight to educate myself on how to manage my cancer. And I am also thankful for Dr. Bahari for his dedication to the research of LDN, which in my opinion, could be one of the most valuable, life saving and life enhancing drugs every discovered that even someone going the alternative, natural route, would not even think twice about before taking it. Tom Armstrong > > Hello Jorn, > > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with > a similar condition Here's what I would do: > > Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com) imediately and > make contact with Webster, the author of the site. > > Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment history. Ask > Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for such an > advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes instantly. The site > isn't commercialized at all. > > There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of destroying > cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid the body of all > the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with whatever > protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone. > > Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and realize that > Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of cancer. > It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions carefully and with > expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The main > consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is done with the > Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening every two weeks. > Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the protocols on the > site. > > The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO acting as the > carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement. The DMSO binds > with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the cancer > killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely acidic state. > The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high alkaline > environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain. > > If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure is > invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it does take over the > spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there is bone > invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a collapse causing > spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point downward. > > If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the tumor is > small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get Cesium to do the > job on that tumor, as soon as possible!! > > If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a surgeon to > screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the affected > joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and scheduled I'd have my > son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd have my son > on the Cesium. > > The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of action for > the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a fresh PET Scan > for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of Radiation these > days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be given > without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant thought...but... > > If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider surgical > removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is not an option, > and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent, I might give > serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink the tumor. > The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the Radiation, and with > great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of Toxemia. > > Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his bloodstream ASAP if > the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing regenerative powers > of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial at present > time. > > We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the body. > Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is used, I would be > giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most effective immune > boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the CancerTutor > site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for my son, and the > immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get started > with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded. > > I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies being > administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or the other...for any > Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's fast...it's safe. It's > been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries by US > medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies. > > The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more time the > cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at this stage > would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN Therapy alone could > lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the LDN doesn't act > quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty of > verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer therapy. An added bonus > is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN, unfortunatley, > doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any Stage cancer, I > would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of a forum that > deals primarily with MS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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