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In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, nonicafe1@... writes:

Hello Jorn,

There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen much to indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to save someone whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a loved one with a similar condition Here's what I would do:

Go to www.cancertutor.com imediately and make contact with Webster, the author of the site.

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Marcie

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Dear nonicafe1

Thank you so much for your valuable response.

To answer one of your implied questions, the reason I am following

an MS moderated board is two-fold:

(1) I have a friend who's daughter suffers from MS (amongst other

ailments) and am trying to provide helpful info for her situation -

unfortunately, they are very conventional oriented and I doubt they

will act on any of the info I provide them.

(2) I have read Dr. Bihari's web site where several advanced cases

og cancer/Melanoma are described with astounding results.

As for your advice on Cesium Chloride - I agree with your assessment

and have recently talked to Larry of Essence of Life. He has treated

over 1500 advanced cancer patients, both human and animal, over the

last few years with good results - quote " better than 50% survival " .

However, it does sound like a pretty brutal treatment - pain is to

be expected and also feeling very ill (nausea, fatigue, diarrhea,

etc.) in addition to some risks regarding liver and heart functions.

That is why we are looking for possible alternatives.

I agree with you, though, that at my son's advanced stage, we should

probably opt for a, at least somewhat proven, radical treatment -

like a now-or-never situation.

Again, thank you for your kind response.

Best regards,

jorn

> Hello Jorn,

>

> There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen

much to

> indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough

to save someone

> whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a

loved one with

> a similar condition Here's what I would do:

>

> Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com)

imediately and

> make contact with Webster, the author of the site.

>

> Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment

history. Ask

> Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for

such an

> advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes

instantly. The site

> isn't commercialized at all.

>

> There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of

destroying

> cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid

the body of all

> the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with

whatever

> protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone.

>

> Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and

realize that

> Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of

cancer.

> It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions

carefully and with

> expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The

main

> consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is

done with the

> Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening

every two weeks.

> Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the

protocols on the

> site.

>

> The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO

acting as the

> carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement.

The DMSO binds

> with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the

cancer

> killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely

acidic state.

> The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high

alkaline

> environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain.

>

> If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure

is

> invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it

does take over the

> spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there

is bone

> invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a

collapse causing

> spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point

downward.

>

> If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the

tumor is

> small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get

Cesium to do the

> job on that tumor, as soon as possible!!

>

> If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a

surgeon to

> screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the

affected

> joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and

scheduled I'd have my

> son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd

have my son

> on the Cesium.

>

> The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of

action for

> the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a

fresh PET Scan

> for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of

Radiation these

> days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be

given

> without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant

thought...but...

>

> If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider

surgical

> removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is

not an option,

> and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent,

I might give

> serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink

the tumor.

> The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the

Radiation, and with

> great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of

Toxemia.

>

> Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his

bloodstream ASAP if

> the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing

regenerative powers

> of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial

at present

> time.

>

> We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the

body.

> Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is

used, I would be

> giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most

effective immune

> boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the

CancerTutor

> site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for

my son, and the

> immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get

started

> with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded.

>

> I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies

being

> administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or

the other...for any

> Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's

fast...it's safe. It's

> been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries

by US

> medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies.

>

> The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more

time the

> cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at

this stage

> would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN

Therapy alone could

> lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the

LDN doesn't act

> quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty

of

> verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer

therapy. An added bonus

> is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN,

unfortunatley,

> doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any

Stage cancer, I

> would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of

a forum that

> deals primarily with MS.

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Hello Marcie,

Thank you very much for your response.

You are probably right when emphazising " rapidly enough " - time is

very much of the essense.

I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through

that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is

offering a Cesium Chloride therapy.

My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in

combination with LDN.

Best regards,

jorn

> In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time,

> nonicafe1@a... writes:

>

>

> > Hello Jorn,

> >

> > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen

much to

> > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough

to save someone

> > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a

loved one with

> > a similar condition Here's what I would do:

> >

> > Go to <A

HREF= " http://www.cancertutor.com/ " >www.cancertutor.com</A>

imediately and make contact with Webster, the

> > author of the site.

> >

> >

>

> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>

> WOW! I'm saving this for possible future reference!

>

> Marcie

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I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile combination

therapy on a 60 day Cycle

..Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that he gets

enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that while on the

Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as to avoid

kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not be taken

uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle.

Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile, Cesium

Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with

Melanoma/O...

> Hello Marcie,

>

> Thank you very much for your response.

>

> You are probably right when emphazising " rapidly enough " - time is

> very much of the essense.

>

> I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through

> that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is

> offering a Cesium Chloride therapy.

>

> My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in

> combination with LDN.

>

> Best regards,

> jorn

>

>

>> In a message dated 9/30/2005 10:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time,

>> nonicafe1@a... writes:

>>

>>

>> > Hello Jorn,

>> >

>> > There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen

> much to

>> > indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough

> to save someone

>> > whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a

> loved one with

>> > a similar condition Here's what I would do:

>> >

>> > Go to <A

> HREF= " http://www.cancertutor.com/ " >www.cancertutor.com</A>

> imediately and make contact with Webster, the

>> > author of the site.

>> >

>> >

>>

>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>

>> WOW! I'm saving this for possible future reference!

>>

>> Marcie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have no experience of your problems, but in my continued research into methods to find a better solution to MS can I suggest potential routes of research for you.

Various oxygenation therapies maybe start with reading The Unmedical Miracle Oxygen ISBN 1-887314-26-1

http://www.proverbs4v7.com/health/oxygen_book.html

Royal Rife Devises and other suggestions in Barry Lynes book The Cancer Conspiracy ISBN 1-885273-12-6 www.barrylynes.com

I wish you all the best, LDN is absolutely great I am just not sure it will be sufficient for you, hence the other suggestions.

Dave

Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:51:36 -0000 From: "jorn_havmann" <jorn@...>Subject: Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O...Hello Marcie,Thank you very much for your response.You are probably right when emphazising "rapidly enough" - time is very much of the essense.I am familiar with the site you are referring me to - and through that site, I have consulted with Larry of Essense of Life, who is offering a Cesium Chloride therapy. My son will probably start on that in a few days - maybe in combination with LDN.Best regards,jorn

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Hello Steve,

Thank you for your valuable advise and the references.

I realize this is primarily a LDN discussion group and the subject

of Cesium Chloride more properly belong on

cesiumtherapy/ but, since

Cesium Chloride will probably be my son's chosen therapy in the next

few days, I can't help asking for your experiences with that

particular therapy.

To spare this group for a Cesium discussion, I would very much

appreciate a post to the above mentioned Cesium group or a private e-

mail to jorn@... describing your experiences.

Good health and all the best of luck to you.

jorn.

> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile

combination

> therapy on a 60 day Cycle

> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that

he gets

> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that

while on the

> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as

to avoid

> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not

be taken

> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle.

>

> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile,

Cesium

> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration.

> ----- Original Message -----

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In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, jorn@... writes:

Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined.

Small correction: The web address your provided (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address is www.thewholfeclinic.com

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I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions?

Marcie

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Cesium is not just for cancer.

1-It is used to create an alkaline terrain within the body's biochemistry to

make it inhospitable for disease initiation of any kind.Almost ANY disease

that occurs in the human body is amplified by an acidic state.Cesium helps

to keep the body basic (alkaline).This can also be accomplished with Barley

Grass Powder, Wheat Grass etc., which are less extreme and safer to use.

Go to www.thewholfeclinic.com and download for free their alkaline diet for

changing the internal terrain of the body.

2-Cesium is also used with other supplements and vitamins to keep the acids

of the stomach from breaking them down before they have a chance to enter

the bloodstream and the lymphatic system.

Why take vitamins and supplements if your stomach acids are going to destroy

50% of them on contact?Cesium helps prevent this.

I won't say any more because others may think this is off topic.However it

is at the very basic core of fighting ANY disease.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with

Melanoma/O...

> Hello Steve,

>

> Thank you for your valuable advise and the references.

>

> I realize this is primarily a LDN discussion group and the subject

> of Cesium Chloride more properly belong on

> cesiumtherapy/ but, since

> Cesium Chloride will probably be my son's chosen therapy in the next

> few days, I can't help asking for your experiences with that

> particular therapy.

>

> To spare this group for a Cesium discussion, I would very much

> appreciate a post to the above mentioned Cesium group or a private e-

> mail to jorn@... describing your experiences.

>

> Good health and all the best of luck to you.

> jorn.

>

>

>> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile

> combination

>> therapy on a 60 day Cycle

>> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure that

> he gets

>> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that

> while on the

>> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as

> to avoid

>> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should not

> be taken

>> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle.

>>

>> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on Laetrile,

> Cesium

>> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration.

>> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined.

Small correction: The web address your provided

(www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address

is www.thewholfeclinic.com

Regards

jorn

> >> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile

> > combination

> >> therapy on a 60 day Cycle

> >> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure

that

> > he gets

> >> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that

> > while on the

> >> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as

> > to avoid

> >> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should

not

> > be taken

> >> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle.

> >>

> >> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on

Laetrile,

> > Cesium

> >> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration.

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with Melanoma/O...

In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time, jorn@... writes:

Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined. Small correction: The web address your provided (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address is www.thewholfeclinic.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions? Marcie

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sorry - sorry - sorry - I really blew this one - I just repeated the

incorrect address but here is the REAL one (I hope)

www.thewolfeclinic.com

(I just tested it - it works for me now)

> http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/

> Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential

LDN user with Melanoma/O...

>

>

> In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

jorn@h... writes:

>

>

>

> Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined.

> Small correction: The web address your provided

> (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct

address

> is www.thewholfeclinic.com

>

>

>

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>

> I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions?

>

> Marcie

>

>

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Thanks...noted

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with

Melanoma/O...

> Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined.

> Small correction: The web address your provided

> (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct address

> is www.thewholfeclinic.com

>

> Regards

> jorn

>

>

>

>> >> I have taken Cesium Chloride with Wobenzyme Enzymes and Laetrile

>> > combination

>> >> therapy on a 60 day Cycle

>> >> .Be sure to have your son drink PLENTY of Water and make sure

> that

>> > he gets

>> >> enough potassium to balance out the cesium.Also, I think that

>> > while on the

>> >> Cesium, your son should have his kidney function monitored so as

>> > to avoid

>> >> kidney problems, since these can be caused by Cesium.It should

> not

>> > be taken

>> >> uninterrupted for a long term.It says so right on the bottle.

>> >>

>> >> Also check out www.cancermetabolic.com for info on

> Laetrile,

>> > Cesium

>> >> Chloride, and Clodromax for bone restoration.

>> >> ----- Original Message -----

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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No problem

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential

> LDN user with Melanoma/O...

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 10/2/2005 8:22:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

> jorn@h... writes:

>>

>>

>>

>> Cesium is even more versatile than I imagined.

>> Small correction: The web address your provided

>> (www.thewholfeclinic.com) had a spelling error - the correct

> address

>> is www.thewholfeclinic.com

>>

>>

>>

>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>

>> I still can't pull it up. Any suggestions?

>>

>> Marcie

>>

>>

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My Personal Experience With Low Dose Naltrexone and Cancer

My Name is Tom and my screen name is TomOnLDN. I will be in my third

year of Stage IV malignant melanoma which had metastasized to the

lymph glands in my neck, shoulders and under my arms. CT's confirmed

that it had metastasized to the lymph's under my jaw on the left side

and around the spine at the back of my neck. The lymph node under my

jaw is swollen the size of an unshelled walnut.

Research on the internet in areas that the medical profession use

educated me to the fact that when there are tumors with the melanoma;

they are larger than 1/16th inch in diameter and the cancer has

spread to the lymphatic system, it is in stage IV and convention

treatments with chemo and radiation are no longer effective. In other

words, it is to late by their thinking.

Two weeks prior to finding I had stage IV melanoma, I also had

squamous cell carcinoma which started on the top of my forehead and

spread to and around my eye, into the sinus cavity and towards my

mouth.

So under my circumstances, I opted to go 100% natural. So I set out

researching cancer for the past three years. I my research, I came

the conclusion, especially from the methods I have been using, that

cancer and other diseases can not be necessarily cure, but managed to

help keep in remission.

I first started out with a good nutritional diet and keep myself very

alkaline. Cancer can only thrive in an acidic environment. In

addressing my tumors, I decide to opt for the use of a drawing salve

(black salve), in my case, Cansema. I documented in every detail,

along with hundreds of pictures, the two years I used the salve to

draw out tumors. Some of the tumors were as big as ½ too ¾ inches in

diameter. The problem with this method, was that the tumors were

producing faster than I could keep up with. In my research, this

possibly was brought on by edema which was cause by the

aggressiveness of the salve.

So I knew I was going to have to make some adjustments. One year into

my battle, the spring of 2004, I added to my therapy Wobenzym N from

Mucos Pharma in Germany and approved for sale in the US. This is a

superb product that I still use to this day. Enzyme therapy is very

important in any disease or prevention of disease. I started out on

60 pills a day to as little as 30 a day. I was introduced to two

different kinesiologist. One in Kentucky and one in Michigan, both

who monitoring me the past two and a half years. It is with their

help, I was able to know how much Wobenzym N and other necessary

supplements I need to take as well as what was effective and what was

not. They also monitored my diet as well.

As well as all this was working for me, I still had flair ups in my

cancer activity every time my immune system was compromised and I got

real ill. So I decided that I needed to research more and look for

something else that would enhance my immune system to keep this

cancer in remission. Then a friend of mine told me about being put on

low dose naltrexone for his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in January of this

year (2005). He knew very little about this product. So I started to

do my home work. I found the Low Dose Naltrexone website and after

reading about the women's experience in France that had three month s

to live due to melanoma that had spread to the brain, and lived for

twelve years afterward until she stopped taking LDN, I said this is

the product I want to take.

I went to three doctors that I have known for some years, and no

would write me the prescription. Their excuse was that it was not FDA

approved for that use. I reminded them of other drugs that they

prescribed for other uses beyond would the FDA had approved them for,

but that did not convince them. One even wanted me to have surgery. I

knew better or they were not well educated that surgery is to late

for stage IV melanoma.

I ended up having to be paired with a doctor in Ohio who is on LDN

for MS to get my prescription. Once I received the LDN I had my

kinesiologist test me. In testing my endorphin level, it was only at

10%. Testing with LDN, I was not responding due to a malabsorption

problem. I suggested that we try D-5 Extra along with the LDN. When

tested, my endorphin level went to 90%. I could absorb the

naltrexone

I started the low dose naltrexone in March of 2005. Prior to getting

on LDN, I contacted a serious upper respiratory infection that caused

my cancer activity to flair up 60%. My lymph nodes swelled as well.

After starting on the LDN in March, I again, in April, contacted a

serious upper respiratory infection, but this time my cancer activity

did not flair up! That told me it was working.

My report from my kinesiologist this week, Oct 18, 2005, was that

even though I still had my cancer, it was not active. The naltrexone

was keeping it under control. She was amazed herself.

So I even though I am on naltrexone, I still watch my diet. I think

that this is very important when fighting any disease that naltrexone

is being used for. It can do no more than help enhance the

effectiveness of the drug.

As far as it keeping me awake at night, I do not have that problem

because I also take 3 mg of Melatonin at bedtime. It is important

that one is in a good, deep sleep when taking LDN, Light of any kind

can disrupt the sleep pattern. Therefore the bedroom should be pitch

black at night or at least wear a sleeping mask.

Today, I am thankful to God for giving me the wisdom and insight to

educate myself on how to manage my cancer. And I am also thankful for

Dr. Bahari for his dedication to the research of LDN, which in my

opinion, could be one of the most valuable, life saving and life

enhancing drugs every discovered that even someone going the

alternative, natural route, would not even think twice about before

taking it.

Tom Armstrong

>

> Hello Jorn,

>

> There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen

much to

> indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to

save someone

> whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a

loved one with

> a similar condition Here's what I would do:

>

> Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com)

imediately and

> make contact with Webster, the author of the site.

>

> Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment

history. Ask

> Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for

such an

> advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes

instantly. The site

> isn't commercialized at all.

>

> There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of

destroying

> cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid

the body of all

> the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with

whatever

> protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone.

>

> Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and

realize that

> Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of

cancer.

> It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions

carefully and with

> expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The

main

> consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is

done with the

> Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening

every two weeks.

> Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the protocols

on the

> site.

>

> The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO acting

as the

> carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement.

The DMSO binds

> with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the

cancer

> killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely

acidic state.

> The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high

alkaline

> environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain.

>

> If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure

is

> invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it

does take over the

> spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there

is bone

> invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a

collapse causing

> spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point

downward.

>

> If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the

tumor is

> small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get

Cesium to do the

> job on that tumor, as soon as possible!!

>

> If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a

surgeon to

> screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the

affected

> joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and

scheduled I'd have my

> son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd

have my son

> on the Cesium.

>

> The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of

action for

> the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a

fresh PET Scan

> for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of

Radiation these

> days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be

given

> without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant

thought...but...

>

> If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider

surgical

> removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is not

an option,

> and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent, I

might give

> serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink

the tumor.

> The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the

Radiation, and with

> great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of

Toxemia.

>

> Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his

bloodstream ASAP if

> the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing

regenerative powers

> of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial at

present

> time.

>

> We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the

body.

> Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is used,

I would be

> giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most

effective immune

> boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the

CancerTutor

> site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for

my son, and the

> immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get

started

> with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded.

>

> I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies being

> administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or

the other...for any

> Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's fast...it's

safe. It's

> been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries

by US

> medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies.

>

> The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more

time the

> cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at

this stage

> would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN Therapy

alone could

> lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the

LDN doesn't act

> quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty of

> verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer

therapy. An added bonus

> is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN,

unfortunatley,

> doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any

Stage cancer, I

> would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of a

forum that

> deals primarily with MS.

>

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Tom,

Thank you for sharing this truly amazing story. I've often heard of the

importance of eating an alkaline diet, but am in a bit of a quandary for my

situation. I'm trying to eat on SCD to heal my gut, and also trying to go

low oxalates. With both of these diets, it seems that they are very acidic,

and so there's lots of meat, and not as many vegetables as I would like.

Did you have any of these issues? if so, what did you do?

Thank you again for sharing your story of healing,

Marilyn

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions from Potential LDN user with

Melanoma/O...

My Personal Experience With Low Dose Naltrexone and Cancer

My Name is Tom and my screen name is TomOnLDN. I will be in my third

year of Stage IV malignant melanoma which had metastasized to the

lymph glands in my neck, shoulders and under my arms. CT's confirmed

that it had metastasized to the lymph's under my jaw on the left side

and around the spine at the back of my neck. The lymph node under my

jaw is swollen the size of an unshelled walnut.

Research on the internet in areas that the medical profession use

educated me to the fact that when there are tumors with the melanoma;

they are larger than 1/16th inch in diameter and the cancer has

spread to the lymphatic system, it is in stage IV and convention

treatments with chemo and radiation are no longer effective. In other

words, it is to late by their thinking.

Two weeks prior to finding I had stage IV melanoma, I also had

squamous cell carcinoma which started on the top of my forehead and

spread to and around my eye, into the sinus cavity and towards my

mouth.

So under my circumstances, I opted to go 100% natural. So I set out

researching cancer for the past three years. I my research, I came

the conclusion, especially from the methods I have been using, that

cancer and other diseases can not be necessarily cure, but managed to

help keep in remission.

I first started out with a good nutritional diet and keep myself very

alkaline. Cancer can only thrive in an acidic environment. In

addressing my tumors, I decide to opt for the use of a drawing salve

(black salve), in my case, Cansema. I documented in every detail,

along with hundreds of pictures, the two years I used the salve to

draw out tumors. Some of the tumors were as big as ½ too ¾ inches in

diameter. The problem with this method, was that the tumors were

producing faster than I could keep up with. In my research, this

possibly was brought on by edema which was cause by the

aggressiveness of the salve.

So I knew I was going to have to make some adjustments. One year into

my battle, the spring of 2004, I added to my therapy Wobenzym N from

Mucos Pharma in Germany and approved for sale in the US. This is a

superb product that I still use to this day. Enzyme therapy is very

important in any disease or prevention of disease. I started out on

60 pills a day to as little as 30 a day. I was introduced to two

different kinesiologist. One in Kentucky and one in Michigan, both

who monitoring me the past two and a half years. It is with their

help, I was able to know how much Wobenzym N and other necessary

supplements I need to take as well as what was effective and what was

not. They also monitored my diet as well.

As well as all this was working for me, I still had flair ups in my

cancer activity every time my immune system was compromised and I got

real ill. So I decided that I needed to research more and look for

something else that would enhance my immune system to keep this

cancer in remission. Then a friend of mine told me about being put on

low dose naltrexone for his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in January of this

year (2005). He knew very little about this product. So I started to

do my home work. I found the Low Dose Naltrexone website and after

reading about the women's experience in France that had three month s

to live due to melanoma that had spread to the brain, and lived for

twelve years afterward until she stopped taking LDN, I said this is

the product I want to take.

I went to three doctors that I have known for some years, and no

would write me the prescription. Their excuse was that it was not FDA

approved for that use. I reminded them of other drugs that they

prescribed for other uses beyond would the FDA had approved them for,

but that did not convince them. One even wanted me to have surgery. I

knew better or they were not well educated that surgery is to late

for stage IV melanoma.

I ended up having to be paired with a doctor in Ohio who is on LDN

for MS to get my prescription. Once I received the LDN I had my

kinesiologist test me. In testing my endorphin level, it was only at

10%. Testing with LDN, I was not responding due to a malabsorption

problem. I suggested that we try D-5 Extra along with the LDN. When

tested, my endorphin level went to 90%. I could absorb the

naltrexone

I started the low dose naltrexone in March of 2005. Prior to getting

on LDN, I contacted a serious upper respiratory infection that caused

my cancer activity to flair up 60%. My lymph nodes swelled as well.

After starting on the LDN in March, I again, in April, contacted a

serious upper respiratory infection, but this time my cancer activity

did not flair up! That told me it was working.

My report from my kinesiologist this week, Oct 18, 2005, was that

even though I still had my cancer, it was not active. The naltrexone

was keeping it under control. She was amazed herself.

So I even though I am on naltrexone, I still watch my diet. I think

that this is very important when fighting any disease that naltrexone

is being used for. It can do no more than help enhance the

effectiveness of the drug.

As far as it keeping me awake at night, I do not have that problem

because I also take 3 mg of Melatonin at bedtime. It is important

that one is in a good, deep sleep when taking LDN, Light of any kind

can disrupt the sleep pattern. Therefore the bedroom should be pitch

black at night or at least wear a sleeping mask.

Today, I am thankful to God for giving me the wisdom and insight to

educate myself on how to manage my cancer. And I am also thankful for

Dr. Bahari for his dedication to the research of LDN, which in my

opinion, could be one of the most valuable, life saving and life

enhancing drugs every discovered that even someone going the

alternative, natural route, would not even think twice about before

taking it.

Tom Armstrong

>

> Hello Jorn,

>

> There's a lot to be said for LDN. So far though I haven't seen

much to

> indicate that it can deal with Stage IV Melanoma rapidly enough to

save someone

> whose brain, spine, and possibly liver are invaded. If I had a

loved one with

> a similar condition Here's what I would do:

>

> Go to _www.cancertutor.com_ (http://www.cancertutor.com)

imediately and

> make contact with Webster, the author of the site.

>

> Describe your son's condition to him along with his treatment

history. Ask

> Webster if he knows of an aggressive and effective protocol for

such an

> advanced condition. Webster will respond quickly...sometimes

instantly. The site

> isn't commercialized at all.

>

> There is a therapy at the site that's very rapid in terms of

destroying

> cancer cells. There'll be plenty of detoxification needed to rid

the body of all

> the killed cancer cells, and that should begin right along with

whatever

> protocol you choose....from Webster or Bihari or anyone.

>

> Find Stage IV Protocols on the site (it's easy to navigate) and

realize that

> Cesium has been used successfully for decades in the treatment of

cancer.

> It's safe because people who use it follow the instructions

carefully and with

> expert guidance from the author of the site, if requested. The

main

> consideration is keeping the body's minerals balanced. This is

done with the

> Potassium that is part of the Protocol and with a blood screening

every two weeks.

> Webster is adamant in his instructions for following the protocols

on the

> site.

>

> The protocol calls for Cesium & Potassium, with Liquid DMSO acting

as the

> carrier of the minerals...whenever there is brain involvement.

The DMSO binds

> with the minerals, then crosses the Blood/Brain barrier with the

cancer

> killing minerals. Right now the cancer cells are in an extremely

acidic state.

> The Cesium is very alkaline. Cancer does not survive in a high

alkaline

> environment. OK...that addresses the growth in the brain.

>

> If my child's spine was involved I'd wonder is the bone structure

is

> invaded. If not, how would we get rid of the growth before it

does take over the

> spine bones. Imagine the sudden loss of spine stability if there

is bone

> invasion and those cancer cells are killed. There could a be a

collapse causing

> spinal cord impingment...resulting in paralysis from that point

downward.

>

> If the spine bones are temporarliy safe from invasion, and the

tumor is

> small and not significantly impinging on vital nerves, I'd get

Cesium to do the

> job on that tumor, as soon as possible!!

>

> If the spine bones are invaded with the cancer cells...I'd want a

surgeon to

> screw some rods to healthy spine bones which would bridge the

affected

> joints and bones. Even as the surgery is being planned and

scheduled I'd have my

> son on the Cesium Protocol. Immediately after the surgery, I'd

have my son

> on the Cesium.

>

> The question of whether Radiation Therapy is a right course of

action for

> the spine tumor is something I'd have to look at after I got a

fresh PET Scan

> for my son. They can hit a tumor with a pretty narrow beam of

Radiation these

> days. Obviously, if there's bone invasion, no Radiation could be

given

> without the above surgery. Radiation is an unpleasant

thought...but...

>

> If the spine tumor is large, but not in the bones, I'd consider

surgical

> removal if that seemed at all possible. If surgical removal is not

an option,

> and the fear is that bone invasion and/or paralysis is imminent, I

might give

> serious consideration to the Radiation Therapy to quickly shrink

the tumor.

> The Cesium Protocol would commence immediately after the

Radiation, and with

> great emphasis on Detoxing the bloodstream before the onset of

Toxemia.

>

> Now for the liver invasion. I'd get the Cesium into his

bloodstream ASAP if

> the liver is to be saved. The liver does have amazing

regenerative powers

> of it's own. so l'd be praying that the invasion is superficial at

present

> time.

>

> We know the cancer tumors are symptoms of a process within the

body.

> Before, during, and after the Cesium, or whatever therapy is used,

I would be

> giving my son " therapeutic " doses of the best known and most

effective immune

> boosters and other recommended supplements that I've seen on the

CancerTutor

> site, and elsewhere. The Cesium Protocol will be successful for

my son, and the

> immune systet has to be restarted and maintained. We have to get

started

> with the Cesium before any organs are too deeply invaded.

>

> I am researching the feasibility of LDN and Cesium therapies being

> administered together. If I had to choose whether to use one or

the other...for any

> Stage IV cancer...It would be Cesium every time. It's fast...it's

safe. It's

> been around quite a while. It's being used in foreign countries

by US

> medical doctors who fled under pressure from the FDA federalies.

>

> The longer any therapy takes (like perhaps LDN alone)...the more

time the

> cancer has to destroy vital organs. Chemotherapy for my son at

this stage

> would be unthinkable and unconscienable. To undertake LDN Therapy

alone could

> lead to a page on a statisical chart at LDN headquarters if the

LDN doesn't act

> quickly enough to save organs and spinal bones. There's plenty of

> verifiable proof of Cesium's efficacy as a fast acting cancer

therapy. An added bonus

> is that all cancer pain is amelioriated in 1-3 days. LDN,

unfortunatley,

> doesn't allow for heavy doses of pain meds. If my son had any

Stage cancer, I

> would be talking to Cancer treatment experts, not a moderator of a

forum that

> deals primarily with MS.

>

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