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In a message dated 1/10/03 1:40:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,

andrea@... writes:

> I have been playing with some from Degussa (their Abil series). I'm

> currently working on a hair conditioner utilizing Angie's Conditioning

> Emulsifier and ABIL® B 8852(PEG/PPG-4/12 Dimethicone). I took a sample

> formulation from Degussa's site and I'm adapting it using Angie's emul.

> instead of degussa's Varisofts (cetrimonium chloride, behentrimonium

> chloride) Although I will say degussa's Varisoft CRC is great in my current

> hair conditioner, but I think the addition of the silicone may help with my

> fly aways :o). I've also tried ABIL® 350(dimethicone) in lotion and it's

> great, ABIL® OSW 5(Cyclopentasiloxane; Dimethiconol) - I'm working on an

> anti-frizz serum or gel with this

>

> I know I have a couple of Dow Corning silicones around, but haven't tried

> them out (can't remember which one's I have either!)

>

So, , I assume you like working with the silicones? That's good to

know. BTW, the Conditioning Emulsifier (behentrimonium methosulfate and

cetearyl alcohol) will absolutely help with flyaway....but so will the

varisoft as you know :)

Sounds like you have some good ideas......your anti-frizz gel or serum sounds

interesting!

Thanks for sharing the info.

Angie

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I have been playing with some from Degussa (their Abil series). I'm

currently working on a hair conditioner utilizing Angie's Conditioning

Emulsifier and ABIL® B 8852(PEG/PPG-4/12 Dimethicone). I took a sample

formulation from Degussa's site and I'm adapting it using Angie's emul.

instead of degussa's Varisofts (cetrimonium chloride, behentrimonium

chloride) Although I will say degussa's Varisoft CRC is great in my current

hair conditioner, but I think the addition of the silicone may help with my

fly aways :o). I've also tried ABIL® 350(dimethicone) in lotion and it's

great, ABIL® OSW 5(Cyclopentasiloxane; Dimethiconol) - I'm working on an

anti-frizz serum or gel with this

I know I have a couple of Dow Corning silicones around, but haven't tried

them out (can't remember which one's I have either!)

Crawford

silicones

> Hi All,

> I'm wondering who has done much with silicones. I know Jen Welch has done

> quite a bit of research and probably our chemist buds, but don't know of

> anyone else....I welcome all comments and thoughts :) I have started

wading

> through them...there are thousands. I've narrowed my search to 4 and have

> requested samples and data sheets. I have a couple of concerns......one

is

> in regards to the volative silicones. Does anyone know if there are

special

> requirements or regulations around handling, shipping, packaging, etc. I

> assume the MSDS will come with them. Also, does anyone have any feeling

> about public perception with the silicones.....you know we are talking

about

> cyclomethicone, dimethicone, etc. Does anyone remember The Graduate? For

> some reason, when I hear silicones, it reminds me of that famous line

> " plastics " . Any thoughts, opinions are appreciated.

> Angie

>

> The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

> Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

> at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

>

>

>

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