Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 <<<<<Can anyone point me, other than books, any online resources that will give a comprehensive look at the INS value and Iodine value for the oils that we use in our soapmaking?......Yoki>>> Yoki, not all soap makers agree that INS numbers are as magical as they are presented to be. The closer you get to that magic number of 165 the harder the bar of soap. The problem with that is when you want a soap that is high in conditioning fatty acids the further away from hard you get. I prefer the method of getting to know what each oil will or will not do for my soap: linoleic conditioning, oleic conditioning, ricinoleic conditioning, which fatty acids soften soap and how fast, which fatty acid in soap will reverse this softening effect and which will not. By knowing my oils I can make a successful batch each time that will feel exactly how I want it to and do what I want it to do, as well. One thing to remember above all in soap making is to not believe everything you hear (even how wonderful oils feel since we have different skin, weather, humidity, etc.) . When starting out do not buy oils in huge bulk until you know you will like that oil a lot and it will not give you problems. Experiment with many....build up a staple of about 6 tried and true and go from there . = ) Dee ¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:.¸:.¸.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸:.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>·´¯`·: http:/www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 I know there is disagreement on INS numbers and their value and I certainly don't hold them sacred but, as I said, they give helpful information to soapers when first starting out as long as you don't follow them--or anything--absolutely blindly. I couldn't agree more that the most important thing is to know the oils, what the composition is, how they react together and what each oil contributes. Without that, you are just guessing, no matter what chart or list you have. Re: Digest Number 959 <<<<<Can anyone point me, other than books, any online resources that will give a comprehensive look at the INS value and Iodine value for the oils that we use in our soapmaking?......Yoki>>> Yoki, not all soap makers agree that INS numbers are as magical as they are presented to be. The closer you get to that magic number of 165 the harder the bar of soap. The problem with that is when you want a soap that is high in conditioning fatty acids the further away from hard you get. I prefer the method of getting to know what each oil will or will not do for my soap: linoleic conditioning, oleic conditioning, ricinoleic conditioning, which fatty acids soften soap and how fast, which fatty acid in soap will reverse this softening effect and which will not. By knowing my oils I can make a successful batch each time that will feel exactly how I want it to and do what I want it to do, as well. One thing to remember above all in soap making is to not believe everything you hear (even how wonderful oils feel since we have different skin, weather, humidity, etc.) . When starting out do not buy oils in huge bulk until you know you will like that oil a lot and it will not give you problems. Experiment with many....build up a staple of about 6 tried and true and go from there . = ) Dee ¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:.¸:.¸.·´¯`·.><((((º> .¸:.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>·´¯`·: http:/www.smartgroups.com/groups/HotSoapEtc http://www.hpsoapbook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Dee wrote <<Yoki, not all soap makers agree that INS numbers are as magical as they are presented to be. The closer you get to that magic number of 165 the harder the bar of soap. The problem with that is when you want a soap that is high in conditioning fatty acids the further away from hard you get.>> Hi Dee. Even with that reasoning sometimes you can have a batch that has worked and then the next time you make it goes south. Especially if you happen to switch where you have gotten your oils from previously. That has happened to me too many times. But I have a few recipes that give consistent results each and every time and believe it or not when I do the numbers the fall within the range for the INS value and the Iodine values. So maybe there is something to it? Yoki I cried unto the Lord with my voice,and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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