Re: Re: Organic Choice LLC. raw milk processing

[Guest guest]

>Mike, you're either being facetious or you missed his point.

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>Neither. I think the idea of investing the time and money into an

>elaborate form of processing like he suggested is foolish. Those

>resources could be devoted towards realizing the solution that is

>already extremely well understood, namely producing great milk and

>not processing it all. And the idea of filtering out bacteria

>and spores misses the whole point of the pro-raw argument. His

>suggestion is a step sideways, not forward. Further, I'd be

>skeptical that such elaborate processing didn't compromise the

>nutritional value of the milk, besides the obvious fact that the

>bacteria are part of the nutritional value.

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>Mike

>SE Pennsylvania

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>The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

You may be right but I do think what he proposed is certainly a better

alternative than pasteurized for those who can't get fresh raw milk. You

and I are fortunate that we can. Not everyone has access to raw milk and

this would be an improvement over what they get now.

[Guest guest]

I agree - not only would this be a " next best thing " as was pointed out

earlier, but also would open the door in a commercial way for an education

process about just what ultra pasteurization does to foods, and the need for

enzymes. Providing good raw milk on a commercial scale will always be hard

and probably will not happen in an affordable way in most of the country.

Just look at the battles the few commercial producers have had to fight, and

the harassment they continually deal with.

I feel blessed to have my cow, and I feel doubly blessed to know someone

else who has a cow that is in milk when mine is dry. I am really picky

about who I share with. Many of the people who say they want my " black

market " milk would sue me in a heart beat the first time their kid got the

runs. And the Health Department would back them completely up and file

criminal charges on top of it, and I'd be left with nothing.

Sad that someone has to pass a litmus test on their knowledge of raw foods,

raw milk, basic microbiology, and basic human immune and digestive function

before I will let them have any of my milk in exchange for a contribution

toward the cost of feeding of my cow.

Lee Anne

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You may be right but I do think what he proposed is certainly a better

alternative than pasteurized for those who can't get fresh raw milk. You

and I are fortunate that we can. Not everyone has access to raw milk and

this would be an improvement over what they get now.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Mike 1000%. I had the same thoughts after I read the original message from Steve. To me it would be a waste of time and money.

Barbara

,Neither. I think the idea of investing the time and money into an elaborate form of processing like he suggested is foolish. Those resources could be devoted towards realizing the solution that is already extremely well understood, namely producing great milk and not processing it all. And the idea of filtering out bacteria and spores misses the whole point of the pro-raw argument. His suggestion is a step sideways, not forward. Further, I'd be skeptical that such elaborate processing didn't compromise the nutritional value of the milk, besides the obvious fact that the bacteria are part of the nutritional value. Mike SE PennsylvaniaThe best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

[Guest guest]

>I agree with Mike 1000%. I had the same thoughts after I read the

>original message from Steve. To me it would be a waste of time and money.

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>Barbara

But since it's not your time or money that's wasted and that it would

benefit farmers trying to sell organic milk and consumers who don't want

pasteurized, then it shouldn't matter, should it?