Maurice!!/milk flavor/temperature

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@@@@@@ Maurice:

> Grandad had a jersy named snooks she was a good milker, and we

made from the milk butter, sour cream, buttermilk and clabber before

it was called yogurt. That is what milk made it to the house,, there

is no better taste than milk warm from milking.

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Hey Maurice!

I'm with you on that! I think milk is tastiest straight from the cow

too. Welcome to the list! Just a few days ago, I started a poll

about milk temperature preferences. Please vote by going to the home

page for this group and clicking on " polls " . So far there's only one

vote (mine) for " fresh from the cow " ! Come on Maurice, I need some

help!

I think there is a physiological fact of the matter about taste

perception and temperature, but I don't know the details. In

general, it seems clear that you can perceive more subtle details of

taste at medium temperatures, not the extremes of hot or cold. I've

noticed how much the flavor of water changes at different

temperatures, and if you boil it and let it cool in a mug for

somewhere in between 5 and 10 minutes there is this amazing flavor

sensation I can't really describe but I always experience drinking

hot water (plain or tea) at the right temp.

A friend was visiting yesterday who had never had raw milk before and

I took a jar of milk out of the fridge and left it on the counter for

a half-hour or hour or so to let it get closer to room temp. When I

explained my rationale, she said she has the same view about having a

more sophisticated taste experience at medium/warm temps, and she

loved the milk and found it very different than anything she'd had

before. We drank it " wine taster " style and noted a lot of amazing

subtle qualities to the flavor. Recently on two separate occasions

from two separate batches of milk from the same Jersey herd, I caught

on to the faintest trace of something that reminds me of chocolate,

which might just be my brain's code for " wow! yes! yes! " . It's

subtle. It's so great to experience the change in flavor with the

seasonal cycling of the cow's diet.

I have some thoughts about the chilling data collected so far by the

poll. One is simply that some people may have never tasted warm

milk, and don't have much to compare to. I find milk cold from the

fridge quite delicious too, but compared to warmer temps it seems

like a crude oversimplification of milk's true flavor.

Another thought is that milk is almost always drank cold because of

the practicalities of storage, so people are just used to that. If

they had equal exposure to cold and warm milk their perceptions might

be different.

Another thought is that in our culture few people really eat slowly

and mindfully to the extent that reveals the full depth of flavor in

real foods. I love chewing on a mix of 15 or so different raw

sprouts and experiencing all the different flavors bouncing off each

other in amazing ways, including a variety of bitter flavors. Also

raw brain has such an amazing flavor that I like to let it linger a

bit on the tongue. Those are just things I ate today so they're on my

mind, but I guess I could list dozens of examples if I start to

really think about it. I guess you can't chew milk, but I try not to

gulp my milk/kefir down too quickly.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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Mike,

You have such a refined palate! You should be a professional chef.

Anton wrote:

@@@@@@ Maurice:

> Grandad had a jersy named snooks she was a good milker, and we

made from the milk butter, sour cream, buttermilk and clabber before

it was called yogurt. That is what milk made it to the house,, there

is no better taste than milk warm from milking.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Hey Maurice!

I'm with you on that! I think milk is tastiest straight from the cow

too. Welcome to the list! Just a few days ago, I started a poll

about milk temperature preferences. Please vote by going to the home

page for this group and clicking on "polls". So far there's only one

vote (mine) for "fresh from the cow"! Come on Maurice, I need some

help!

I think t

[Guest guest]

well Mike my vote has been cast,,,thanks for the invite.... just

want to mention that my people settled around allentown many long

years ago,,, at that time the name was Zurfo " ss, zarfus, zerfus

zerfass. just about twenty different versions of the name... thanks

again,,, that is major farm country where you are located,,,

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