Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 > to be accurate, would have to include WHY a 'self-treating > experimenter' chose to chance using an unstandardized " poormans " over > having nothing. Have you ever tried a plain old Hulda zapper to see if worked well enough for your purposes? It produces a square wave <g>. BTW, I ordered one of the premade $10 zappers I described on the list a couple days ago. Will let y'all know how it works once I evaluate it. turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 > > to be accurate, would have to include WHY a 'self-treating > > experimenter' chose to chance using an unstandardized " poormans " over > > having nothing. > > Have you ever tried a plain old Hulda zapper > to see if worked well enough for your purposes? > It produces a square wave <g>. > > BTW, I ordered one of the premade $10 zappers > I described on the list a couple days ago. Will > let y'all know how it works once I evaluate it. > > turf My purposes, ? Personally, I think those " fellow travellers " of mine are done for and I'm going for the bulk whey plus N-Acetyl Cysteine to rebuild those atrophied muscles and give my immune system some encouragement. Since I can't afford the (names withheld) commercial stuff for several times the price the whey comes from a grocery store; the other is ordered as bulk powder. (My " poormans " sits forlornly on the wall much of the time.) , I think your idea about the e Zapper has merit. Then there is also the more generalized electrocution of germs etc which I have done it to myself (and post members think I should not discuss openly)....but panic makes one take chances. My purposes......hmmm......sometimes even I don't know, but I enjoy stirring the pot and inspecting what comes to the top. My best to all of you, it's been a pleasure...... Good Health, Long Life.....Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 " brosanity " <delcrow@p...> wrote: > Well, then, Gerhard, Fred & Ralph.....if it turns out you are > correct then " poormans " I'm fairly sure that I'm correct WRT soundcards. It just makes sense, for a variety of reasons, for soundcard manufacturers to only design in support for the audio frequency range. (That's where the " sound " in " soundcard " comes from, eh?) HOWEVER you're missing something crucial. The " poorman's " device that you are going on-and-on-and-on about, if you include a spark gap (spark plug) is a type of EMEM2 device, which is a type of Lakhovsky device. It is not a Rife device. It isn't clear, from what I've read about this class of devices, whether or not a squarewave is necessary when a sparkgap is used. Also, for $10-$20 worth of parts, one can make a 555-based frequency generator (as is done with the EMEM2 class of devices) that has sharp enough squarewaves for Rife device usage. For a " poorman " you sure seem to be stuck on the idea of using a computer to generate frequencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 --- > The " poorman's " device that you are going on-and-on-and-on about, > if you include a spark gap (spark plug) is a type of EMEM2 device, > which is a type of Lakhovsky device. It is not a Rife device. > It isn't clear, from what I've read about this class of devices, > whether or not a squarewave is necessary when a sparkgap is used. > > Also, for $10-$20 worth of parts, one can make a 555-based > frequency generator (as is done with the EMEM2 class of devices) > that has sharp enough squarewaves for Rife device usage. > > For a " poorman " you sure seem to be stuck on the idea of using > a computer to generate frequencies. Fred......please look at the diagram on Holman.net. The only " spark gap " is the gap down the centre of the tube itself agitating the rare gasses. Most people would be too inexperienced to make Ralph Hartwell's (free diagram) wave trimmer.(I hope I'm not giving credit erroneously here) Also there are " fumble fingered " folks like me too. For free or $20 you can get a computer that works but has little memory, probably doesn't even have (or need) higher than Windows 3.0 and a 3.5 floppy....THEN if the internal speaker works and the wire is accessible it's a GO! All " fumble fingers " has to do then is open the computer cover, make sure not to lose the position of the red and black wire connection to the motherboard, cut the wires and lead them safely to the outside of the computer. Jimmies diagram indicates a square wave squiggle then a mono jack. The squiggle can be taken to represent the red and black wires and the jack if difficult for " fumble fingers " can be left out. With about 5 volts computer output on those wires Jimmies diagram works. Even if one BUYS (perish the thought) a power supply like an auto battery charger (min 4amp suggested by Jimmie) and a properly charged tube from a 'friendly' neon sign shop, and the suggested NEW auto coil. It is unlikely to cost more than between $100 and $200. Personal comment: Older style straight 25mm 18inch 90/10 Argon/Neon 8mm gas pressure Rife/Bare tubes are 2 for $57 from cowichan@... ; (The theory in this is that a person who makes one is likely to make one for a friend) and I've found the autocoils cost too much and most autowreckers will sell them for 5 or ten bucks each. The heatsink for the transistor (which gets really hot) has to be BIGGER than you'd think. If a person makes the heatsink really effective, 2 autowrecker coils might be used. You weren't really asking all this, but there you are, Fred......Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 In a message dated 2/8/02 2:14:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, delcrow@... writes: > And ,kherpi, studies, > to be accurate, would have to include WHY a 'self-treating > experimenter' chose to chance using an unstandardized " poormans " over > having nothing. I don't see that kind of fair reporting would be > allowed by current governments. So, as usual, the poor get poor (or > no) service. The governments prefer they die off........ I was > really hoping we could do better than this......! Del > Uphill battle for sure...but those are the best kind! You have to dig through alot of coal to find the diamond! The answer is out there somewhere......is there another house appliance that would generate decent squarewaves? Could it be easily attached to a PC? On another note, most poor people don't have PCs do they? So I would imagine there *has* to be some cost involved right? ( I would hope not) khepri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 In a message dated 2/8/02 3:06:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, turf@... writes: > > to be accurate, would have to include WHY a 'self-treating > > experimenter' chose to chance using an unstandardized " poormans " over > > having nothing. > > Have you ever tried a plain old Hulda zapper > to see if worked well enough for your purposes? > It produces a square wave <g>. > > It's a positive offset Squarewave right? Does the Rife use those type of squares? Can one run sine waves through a Rife device safely? The question was raised on Mind-L awhile back.... khepri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 > > Have you ever tried a plain old Hulda zapper > > to see if worked well enough for your purposes? > > It produces a square wave <g>. > > It's a positive offset Squarewave right? Does the Rife use those type of > squares? Yes. > Can one run sine waves through a Rife device safely? Yes, but there would likely be few effects since there would be no harmonics. turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 In a message dated 2/12/02 9:41:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, turf@... writes: > > It's a positive offset Squarewave right? Does the Rife use those type of > > squares? > > Yes. > > > Can one run sine waves through a Rife device safely? > > Yes, but there would likely be few effects since there would be > no harmonics. > > turf > well, I suppose that's OK for the purpose I would be using the sine wave for....brain entrainment....Somebody already is making a device for that aren't they...I can't recal the website I saw that on...pretty sure he or his rep(?) (a woman) participates on this list...: ) Actually, some sound therapists have assigned certain frequencies to each of the prgans (when healthy) and I guess the idea is to expose the organ to it's healthy frequency and " entrain " it back into a healthy state...so a sine wave would be perfect for that I guess.... Of course I'm just researching all this so it's all new to me... I am actually just looking for an alternative delivery method for a frequency following response for brainwave entrainment... These Rife type devices using the plasma tube...they emit a plasma wave that penetrates just about everything? khepri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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