HELP!!! Behavior at school Zachary Lewallen

[Guest guest]

Your mention that he's never been this way before with you leads me to

believe that something is happening in the classroom to trigger his behavior,

especially if it's been going on for weeks. I know schools aren't always really

helpful at analyzing why behaviors are happening but that would probably be the

best place to start.

Some physiological things to consider would be that if he took an antibiotic

for the ear infection, he could now have an overgrowth of yeast which could

cause difficult symptoms. Treating with a prescription or over the counter

antifungal would be helpful in this case, along with giving some probiotics.

Natural antifungals that you can buy at most health food stores include caprylic

acid, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract and garlic. Also check to

see if he's being exposed to any chemicals or perfumes he may be reacting to at

school. Was there any recent spraying? Is the teacher wearing a new perfume?

I've seen some really bizzare reactions by kids that can be tied to such

things.

Years ago, my son became very violent after drinking Dole Pine-Orange-Banana

juice. It was the only time he's ever been violent in his life. It was such

a horrible experience that I still shudder at the thought of that juice combo.

If all of the above things have been considered and rule out as issues, look

at what he's eating or drinking.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

I just got called in to the school. Zach had a major melt-down or I guess that

is what you would call it. I got there and he had thrown things, spit, hit,

knocked things off the desks.

Even after I got there and we went back to the classroom

(he was in the office) he was aggressive with me which he has never been before.

He would hit at me, kick, act like he was going to bite me and try to head butt,

then he would hit himself. They said this had been going on for the last six

weeks to a certain extent.

Today he could not go to the library because he was abusing his books and that

seemed to be the antecedent. They also had a lady come in that was suppose to

help him with his sign language so that probably did not help to have a stranger

that he was not prepared for to come into the classroom.

The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte Myers) is suppose to come

tomorrow, but I have never seen my child like that so I did not know what to do.

They are saying minor tantrums like this are common at school. Please if anyone

has any ideas or suggestions let me know.

He had an ear infection the last of January and it seems the problems really

developed during and after this. I haave already taken him to two doctors and

they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing allergy tests on him and they

should be back in 3 weeks.

I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what they think.

Thanks,

Gail Malone

[Guest guest]

I cant offer you any help because I am in a similar situation. I cant even get

anyone to test my child even though everyone agrees it is Aspergers. All I can

tell you is you arent alone even though it feels like it most of the time.

GAIL MALONE wrote:I just got called in to the school.

Zach had a major melt-down or I guess that is what you would call it. I got

there and he had thrown things, spit, hit, knocked things off the desks.

Even after I got there and we went back to the classroom

(he was in the office) he was aggressive with me which he has never been before.

He would hit at me, kick, act like he was going to bite me and try to head butt,

then he would hit himself. They said this had been going on for the last six

weeks to a certain extent.

Today he could not go to the library because he was abusing his books and that

seemed to be the antecedent. They also had a lady come in that was suppose to

help him with his sign language so that probably did not help to have a stranger

that he was not prepared for to come into the classroom.

The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte Myers) is suppose to come

tomorrow, but I have never seen my child like that so I did not know what to do.

They are saying minor tantrums like this are common at school. Please if anyone

has any ideas or suggestions let me know.

He had an ear infection the last of January and it seems the problems really

developed during and after this. I haave already taken him to two doctors and

they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing allergy tests on him and they

should be back in 3 weeks.

I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what they think.

Thanks,

Gail Malone

[Guest guest]

Have you tried the DAN protocol? My son's rages (once our biggest

problem) disappeared after we started the protocol--specifically after

we started treating his not-very-obvious stomach problems.

Jane

>

> I just got called in to the school. Zach had a major melt-down or I

> guess that is what you would call it. I got there and he had thrown

> things, spit, hit, knocked things off the desks.

> Even after I got there and we went back to the classroom

> (he was in the office) he was aggressive with me which he has never

> been before. He would hit at me, kick, act like he was going to bite

> me and try to head butt, then he would hit himself. They said this

> had been going on for the last six weeks to a certain extent.

> Today he could not go to the library because he was abusing his books

> and that seemed to be the antecedent. They also had a lady come in

> that was suppose to help him with his sign language so that probably

> did not help to have a stranger that he was not prepared for to come

> into the classroom.

> The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte Myers) is suppose to

> come tomorrow, but I have never seen my child like that so I did not

> know what to do. They are saying minor tantrums like this are common

> at school. Please if anyone has any ideas or suggestions let me know.

> He had an ear infection the last of January and it seems the problems

> really developed during and after this. I haave already taken him to

> two doctors and they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing

> allergy tests on him and they should be back in 3 weeks.

> I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what they think.

> Thanks,

> Gail Malone

[Guest guest]

It's how they are approaching him. How many people

grab you by the hand and pull you along? How many

people when you say you need a minute make you complie

anyway? Does he have a schedule? Are the school

personnel all the same? Have any of them divorced????

or had a baby? Look for diruptions in the

ENVIRONMENT- BEhavior is all about environment. Look

closely. Go visit ALL day if you have too and take

notes.

Candis

--- marla sims wrote:

> I cant offer you any help because I am in a similar

> situation. I cant even get anyone to test my child

> even though everyone agrees it is Aspergers. All I

> can tell you is you arent alone even though it feels

> like it most of the time.

>

> GAIL MALONE wrote:I just

> got called in to the school. Zach had a major

> melt-down or I guess that is what you would call it.

> I got there and he had thrown things, spit, hit,

> knocked things off the desks.

> Even after I got there and we went back to the

> classroom

> (he was in the office) he was aggressive with me

> which he has never been before. He would hit at me,

> kick, act like he was going to bite me and try to

> head butt, then he would hit himself. They said

> this had been going on for the last six weeks to a

> certain extent.

> Today he could not go to the library because he was

> abusing his books and that seemed to be the

> antecedent. They also had a lady come in that was

> suppose to help him with his sign language so that

> probably did not help to have a stranger that he was

> not prepared for to come into the classroom.

> The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte

> Myers) is suppose to come tomorrow, but I have never

> seen my child like that so I did not know what to

> do. They are saying minor tantrums like this are

> common at school. Please if anyone has any ideas or

> suggestions let me know.

> He had an ear infection the last of January and it

> seems the problems really developed during and after

> this. I haave already taken him to two doctors and

> they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing

> allergy tests on him and they should be back in 3

> weeks.

> I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what

> they think.

> Thanks,

> Gail Malone

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[Guest guest]

Gail, ask for a Functional Behavior Assessment (FBA). Our kids don't

start being aggressive out of the blue without something triggering it.

Generally when out son acts out at school, the trigger has been another

child bullying him when the teacher wasn't looking. Sadly, it usually

has to escalate to school refusal and aggression before I can get anyone

at school to listen.

Tonya

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HELP!!! Behavior at school Zachary

Lewallen

I just got called in to the school. Zach had a major melt-down or I

guess that is what you would call it. I got there and he had thrown

things, spit, hit, knocked things off the desks.

Even after I got there and we went back to the classroom

(he was in the office) he was aggressive with me which he has never been

before. He would hit at me, kick, act like he was going to bite me and

try to head butt, then he would hit himself. They said this had been

going on for the last six weeks to a certain extent.

Today he could not go to the library because he was abusing his books

and that seemed to be the antecedent. They also had a lady come in that

was suppose to help him with his sign language so that probably did not

help to have a stranger that he was not prepared for to come into the

classroom.

The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte Myers) is suppose to

come tomorrow, but I have never seen my child like that so I did not

know what to do. They are saying minor tantrums like this are common at

school. Please if anyone has any ideas or suggestions let me know.

He had an ear infection the last of January and it seems the problems

really developed during and after this. I haave already taken him to

two doctors and they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing allergy

tests on him and they should be back in 3 weeks.

I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what they think.

Thanks,

Gail Malone

[Guest guest]

>I cant offer you any help because I am in a similar situation<

I started a group awhile back that is for those of us whose child with autism

hurts themselves and/or others. Tristan is most of the time self injurious, but

sometimes he does bite us and the school staff. For those who want to discuss

these issues and need understanding and support please join us.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/autism_self_injurious_behavior/

[Guest guest]

> BEhavior is all about environment.<

I am sorry, but I don't agree with this. It sometimes is the enviroment but

without a thorough FBA you can't know for sure. There is no doubt that Tristan

suffers from medically related issues that are reflected in his behavior. We

don't have the means to do the DAN! protocol or rather go to DAN! doctors. The

neurologist and Ped Gastro's (two) have seen him but they certainly don't

" believe " in the DAN! protocol and they haven't helped him at all. I think that

you have a high functioning child but Tristan is not. Many of these kids that

are more severe have difficulty with behavior.

[Guest guest]

Minor tantrums? That sounds pretty serious. And going on for 6 weeks

without informing you??? It sounds like you are doing everything you can to

identify possible medical reasons for his behavior problems. What is the

school doing? Has an FBA been done? Does your son have a BIP in place and

is the school following it? If the tantrums are occurring just at school

and not in other settings, you could surmise there probably is not a medical

reason for his behaviors.

Geraldine

HELP!!! Behavior at school Zachary Lewallen

>

> I just got called in to the school. Zach had a major melt-down or I guess

> that is what you would call it. I got there and he had thrown things,

> spit, hit, knocked things off the desks.

> Even after I got there and we went back to the classroom

> (he was in the office) he was aggressive with me which he has never been

> before. He would hit at me, kick, act like he was going to bite me and try

> to head butt, then he would hit himself. They said this had been going on

> for the last six weeks to a certain extent.

> Today he could not go to the library because he was abusing his books and

> that seemed to be the antecedent. They also had a lady come in that was

> suppose to help him with his sign language so that probably did not help

> to have a stranger that he was not prepared for to come into the

> classroom.

> The main lady on autism from Region X (Charlotte Myers) is suppose to come

> tomorrow, but I have never seen my child like that so I did not know what

> to do. They are saying minor tantrums like this are common at school.

> Please if anyone has any ideas or suggestions let me know.

> He had an ear infection the last of January and it seems the problems

> really developed during and after this. I haave already taken him to two

> doctors and they say his ears are fine. One doctor is doing allergy tests

> on him and they should be back in 3 weeks.

> I am emailing everyone on my Autism list to see what they think.

> Thanks,

> Gail Malone

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