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J. Hi

I am looking for the right word

And I am speachless.

What to came to my mind was:

A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R

I just want to hear

's opinion on that matter.

, Are you following this discation?

Where do you stand?

I love hearing 's thoughts

I love his clarity

Love Tami

> > No personal responsibility.

> >

> > You forgot to add to your post in defense of stealing:

> >

> > writes: " I would seek the owners out to make it right as

soon as

> > possible "

> >

> > Are you willing to look face to face and tell her that you

are

> > posting the Parlor newsletter and be willing to pay $35 for each

of

> > members of this yahoo group?

> >

> > As Love, Marla

>

> Hi Marla,

>

> Has lost $35 per user in the group? Is it true? Can you prove

> that lost $35 per member of this group, as a result of my

actions?

>

> And as Debra said,

>

> " If J had enabled people to receive monthly Parlor newsletters and

to

> have access to the archived material in the Parlor, then it would

seem

> to me he would have gone against 's request. However, he

> published a small sample of one of her newsletters which could well

> result in an increased subscriptions because people's interest had

> been piqued. For what it is worth, I viewed what he did as a form

of

> advertising (much like Amazon makes portions of books it is selling

> accessible for free online), one which I cannot see has hurt

in

> any way. I am a subscriber to the Parlor and I did not feel cheated

> or feel that now I could unsubscribe because someone posted an

excerpt

> from one of the newsletters. "

>

> I didn't post the whole Parlour - I haven't posted $35 worth (a

year's

> membership). Have you got 's opinion on it? Do you think she

> would want $35 per member of this group because of my actions? I

don't

> know.

>

> And if she did, I would not pay it because I do not believe that my

> actions caused her this loss. And where has she actually LOST

> anything? In the stealing example, the shop owner would have lost a

> physical item, which they would no long own to sell on to another

> person. This group currently has 2087 members, at $35 each, it would

> cost $73045 to reimburse . I steal food at water from a shop,

> which costs them $50. They have lost $50 worth of goods. I will pay

> them $50 - I am reimbursing $50. I post part of one Parlour to the

> group, has lost what, exactly? $73045?

>

> If I had intercepted 2087 people as they were signing up to join the

> Parlour, and said, " DUDE, don't pay for that, I will give you a

year's

> membership for FREE, " and then proceeded to do that, you MAY be

right.

> may have lost $73045.

>

> So again, the answer is no. I am not willing to pay $35 for every

> member of the group, because I do not believe that my actions were

> analogous to stealing $35 from . And if they were, YES I am

> willing to do that.

>

> If I sound defensive, its because I am! One of my stories is about

> people using " false logic " in an arguement/debate... Yes, I'm

working

> on it. Actually, I'm going to do the work on that today. Seriously,

> I'm super-pissed off here, haha!

>

> As with everything, its nothing personal :)

>

> Thanks,

>

> J

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Dear Tami,

yes, I followed the discussion. A discussion I see no point in

participating.

But you asked for my opinion.

On what, exactly?

-Whether J should or should not post excerpts from " the parlor " ?

He should, since that is what happened.

-Whether he should give 35$ for every potential reader of what

he posted?

He shouldn't, as that's what he seems to be doing.

-Whether lost $73045, because of J's actions?

How would I know?

-Whether I want to read more excerpts from the parlor, without having

to join?

Yes, I would. As I like to read almost everything else in this group.

-Whether it is ok to take advantage on backdoors of one's agreements?

If I have an agreement, and I break it, even if no one ever takes

notice of it, I do take notice.

If I use a backdoor, I feel it.

If I don't see how my action regards the agreement (if I don't see it

as a violation), my thoughts would not trouble me.

If I cheat on you, I notice.

It's not about you who blames me for not sticking to my agreement.

Just about me.

Because I do notice.

And a feeling will let me know.

And if someone does blame me, and I feel any urge to defend myself,

or anything but a: " could she be right, can I find it? " that person

may be right.

From MY point of view.

Love,

Am 05.09.2005 um 11:34 schrieb Tami:

> J. Hi

> I am looking for the right word

> And I am speachless.

> What to came to my mind was:

> A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R

>

> I just want to hear

> 's opinion on that matter.

>

> , Are you following this discation?

> Where do you stand?

>

> I love hearing 's thoughts

> I love his clarity

>

> Love Tami

>

>

>

>>> No personal responsibility.

>>>

>>> You forgot to add to your post in defense of stealing:

>>>

>>> writes: " I would seek the owners out to make it right as

>>>

> soon as

>

>>> possible "

>>>

>>> Are you willing to look face to face and tell her that you

>>>

> are

>

>>> posting the Parlor newsletter and be willing to pay $35 for each

>>>

> of

>

>>> members of this yahoo group?

>>>

>>> As Love, Marla

>>>

>>

>> Hi Marla,

>>

>> Has lost $35 per user in the group? Is it true? Can you prove

>> that lost $35 per member of this group, as a result of my

>>

> actions?

>

>>

>> And as Debra said,

>>

>> " If J had enabled people to receive monthly Parlor newsletters and

>>

> to

>

>> have access to the archived material in the Parlor, then it would

>>

> seem

>

>> to me he would have gone against 's request. However, he

>> published a small sample of one of her newsletters which could well

>> result in an increased subscriptions because people's interest had

>> been piqued. For what it is worth, I viewed what he did as a form

>>

> of

>

>> advertising (much like Amazon makes portions of books it is selling

>> accessible for free online), one which I cannot see has hurt

>>

> in

>

>> any way. I am a subscriber to the Parlor and I did not feel cheated

>> or feel that now I could unsubscribe because someone posted an

>>

> excerpt

>

>> from one of the newsletters. "

>>

>> I didn't post the whole Parlour - I haven't posted $35 worth (a

>>

> year's

>

>> membership). Have you got 's opinion on it? Do you think she

>> would want $35 per member of this group because of my actions? I

>>

> don't

>

>> know.

>>

>> And if she did, I would not pay it because I do not believe that my

>> actions caused her this loss. And where has she actually LOST

>> anything? In the stealing example, the shop owner would have lost a

>> physical item, which they would no long own to sell on to another

>> person. This group currently has 2087 members, at $35 each, it would

>> cost $73045 to reimburse . I steal food at water from a shop,

>> which costs them $50. They have lost $50 worth of goods. I will pay

>> them $50 - I am reimbursing $50. I post part of one Parlour to the

>> group, has lost what, exactly? $73045?

>>

>> If I had intercepted 2087 people as they were signing up to join the

>> Parlour, and said, " DUDE, don't pay for that, I will give you a

>>

> year's

>

>> membership for FREE, " and then proceeded to do that, you MAY be

>>

> right.

>

>> may have lost $73045.

>>

>> So again, the answer is no. I am not willing to pay $35 for every

>> member of the group, because I do not believe that my actions were

>> analogous to stealing $35 from . And if they were, YES I am

>> willing to do that.

>>

>> If I sound defensive, its because I am! One of my stories is about

>> people using " false logic " in an arguement/debate... Yes, I'm

>>

> working

>

>> on it. Actually, I'm going to do the work on that today. Seriously,

>> I'm super-pissed off here, haha!

>>

>> As with everything, its nothing personal :)

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> J

>>

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