Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Jill, The advice of cabbage leaves was good. Use the green outer leaves, changing every few hours. Cabbage leaves are so potent at drying up milk that I do not recommend it to mother's who ARE nursing. Ibuprofen works well for pain relief. Cold vs heat. And, a firm bra. As for the bromocriptine: studies have shown that it is a risky drug to use (ie. risk of seizures, other CNS probs) and not worth the benefits. I do not know if it affects future nursing. I just know I wouldn't use it. Cabbage leaves work the best. You gave excellent advice. Not outdated at all. Gay Marie I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on a disc somewhere... [OBnurses] Advice please > > > Last week, my niece in Australia, lost twins @18 weeks. A day after her > discharge from the ( private, with specialist) hospital; her breasts became > engorged and started leaking milk. She was distressed and found that it was > an extra sadness to bear. > By phone, (I live in New Zealand, am a CNM) I advised her to take > analgesia/wear a very firm bra/ place cold cabbage leaves in and ask the Dr. > for some " tablets " to dry up the milk. ( e.g. Bromocriptine ( parlodel) . > She and hubby went to the specialist and he said that... " We don't give > tablets to dry up the milk these days as it may affect future breast feeding > events " ... AND... " cabbage leaves are only for breast feeding women with > engorged breasts " . > Question: Is he " right? or am I just out of date or what? > I find it incredible that the child was suffering and little if anything was > offered to help. > Thanks. > Jillian > NZ > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Parlodel has been taken off the market for breast dry up due to problems with blood pressure several years ago. I'm not sure about the cabbage leaves but I would think that they would be OK. They are used for the " coolness " and that is what she should use-- cold or ice packs or something. & Jill wrote: > > > Last week, my niece in Australia, lost twins @18 weeks. A day after her > discharge from the ( private, with specialist) hospital; her breasts became > engorged and started leaking milk. She was distressed and found that it was > an extra sadness to bear. > By phone, (I live in New Zealand, am a CNM) I advised her to take > analgesia/wear a very firm bra/ place cold cabbage leaves in and ask the Dr. > for some " tablets " to dry up the milk. ( e.g. Bromocriptine ( parlodel) . > She and hubby went to the specialist and he said that... " We don't give > tablets to dry up the milk these days as it may affect future breast feeding > events " ... AND... " cabbage leaves are only for breast feeding women with > engorged breasts " . > Question: Is he " right? or am I just out of date or what? > I find it incredible that the child was suffering and little if anything was > offered to help. > Thanks. > Jillian > NZ > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Just had to add this personal anecdote!! My daughter had a great pregnancy and wonderful delivery by a CNM. No problems until she got home. Now, mind you, I have been doing this OB thing for 15 years and thought I had all the answers.....good support bra, ice packs, x-strength Tylenol, etc. Well she became horribly engorged dispite all my help. We tried cabbage leaves....no luck. We tried camphor oil....no luck. I didn't know what to do for her. Thought she would explode. I kept telling her " No stimulation to those things! " Finally, she got into a hot shower and just let it flow. Then she wrapped up in a tight Ace bandage. And that did the trick. She started to rethink the bottlefeeding :-) Take care. Sincerely, Marge http://community.webtv.net/msollie143/Bloomwhereyouare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Jill..we don't use Parlodel tablet to dry up breast milk anymore, (for about 5 years) due to untowards effects in elevating mom's blood pressure. Cabbage leaves do help...and anything is worth a try..let the OB try to get thru engorgement..he'd sing a different tune!! Have a good day! Lori in Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Jill, It seems like a cruel trick for your niece to have to go through this after loosing her babies. Unfortunately, healthcare providers forget to warn patients they will still have to go through all the hormonal changes any women does after have a baby. Like Lori said Parlodel is no longer given due to several problems that showed up after it was marketed. The most severe problem being strokes. I know of no problems related to future breastfeeding (does anybody else out there)? The cabbage leaves are a wonderful idea. I seen them help both moms who plan to continue to breast feed and moms who have opted not to breast feed. Anyway, they can't hurt anything. , TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 For those of you who advise cabbage leaves can you tell me just what you tell the pt to do with them? How much, how long, etc. I have not heard of using cabbage leaves (even our midwives haven't mentioned it) so we have just been giving the " bundle tight and Tylenol " advice! Any other tricks would be appreciated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 , take the large out side dark green leaves (raw) and put them on the breast .....that simple. there is some chemical that helps the engorgement. I haven't tried this but have been told about it several times maybe someone on the list knows what the chemical is Alcie " growing old is mandatory growing up is optional " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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