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OH yes,

my 10 yr old autistic does ever since his sister now 5 was born. SOmetimes

he doesn't do it though.

I've noticed a correlation (I think) when his sensitivities/allergies are

up. Our only solution seems to be to keep his diet and indoor allergen

levels down. However it is not a perfect correlation. still missing some

pieces.

At 10:05 PM 10/15/02 -0400, you wrote:

>My five year old son is having great trouble with filtering out noises

> and becomes completely out of control when my one year old cries. He

cannot

>bear the noise and begins running around the house screaming Quiet Quiet,

>throwing things and then crying himself. Anyone had a problem like this?

Any

>solutions??

>

>La Toya

>Christian's mom

>

>

>

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Yes. Samonas and The Listening Program sound therapies took care of most of

this for my son. Others have been helped with AIT and Tomatis. Check into

the various auditory training. If you need more details, let me know.

Gaylen

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tlschuldt2001@... writes:

> Seriously consider auditory integration or music modulation. Terri

What is music modulation?

Gaylen

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Seriously consider auditory integration or music modulation. Terri

> My five year old son is having great trouble with filtering out

noises

> and becomes completely out of control when my one year old cries.

He cannot

> bear the noise and begins running around the house screaming Quiet

Quiet,

> throwing things and then crying himself. Anyone had a problem like

this? Any

> solutions??

>

> La Toya

> Christian's mom

>

>

>

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Rhoda,

I recently attended a seminar in Austin and one of the speakers said that he had

heard of children poking at their eyes.

He even had even indicated that a few of these children actually poked their

eyes out.

I wonder if you son pokes at his nose to get to the sinus cavity towards the

eyes?

The speaker advised that a calcium defiency can cause pain around the eye socket

and the children actually get some relief by poking at/around their eye. I

personally do not have this issue with my son, so I have not talked to Dr. G

about this, but thought I'd share what I had heard on this subject.

Good luck,

Mindy

Sensory issues

Long post -- sorry.

My son is two and a half, and started eye and nose poking a few months before we

went to see Dr. Goldberg in February. His sticks his finger around the eye area

(like he's putting pressure around it) and sometimes he puts his finger right

into his eye socket. On occasion, he has pushed his finger out against his

upper eye lid. He has also poked his nose to the extent that it starts to bleed.

He seems to do it mostly when he is in the highchair, during or after a meal. He

also does it the odd time when he is sitting in the glider rocker chair watching

TV (but not that often). He has done it in his car seat only a few times, and

did it a few times on the plane to and from California. The other day he

started eye poking in the bathtub when he was floating on top of the water and

now he does it with every bath when he starts to float.

I know it is because of a sensory issue. I have determined it is pretty much

when his feet are not touching the ground. From what I have read, I feel that he

is trying to get a sense of where his body is at when he is not firmly rooted on

the ground with his feet. I try to keep his hands occupied. In the highchair, I

give him plastic rings to chew on in between courses -- I can't feed him all his

food at once because he only likes one food in front of him at a time and will

pitch the rest. I also have two other kids to attend to, so I can't sit there

all through meal time to monitor him. The plastic rings will work about 50% of

the time. In the car, I give him a Rubbermaid juice box. He drinks the juice and

chews on the hard plastic spout. That works pretty well.

One OT told me to try the brushing technique. I did that but it had no effect.

Another OT and a Behavioural Therapist came for a joint visit and said to take

him out of the highchair for meals. I tried but he's just not ready. His feet

don't touch at the little table I have set up. And he gets up and wanders

around, wiping his hands on the furniture. He wants to go after his sister's

food and she is not on a special diet so her stuff is off limits. I asked about

a weighted vest but the therapists said it wouldn't help. They gave me a

weighted soft toy to put on his lap while he watches TV or at the table for

meals. He hates it and just throws it off.

Has anyone had this problem or heard of a solution? Any help would be much

appreciated.

Thanks,

Rhoda

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Rhoda,

I have the eye poking problem myself at times if I eat too much hot

pepper, fried food, or soming thing too dry. I usually can tell if my

body is approachin that point, and stop certain food. But if my mom

makes too much good food, I decide to take the risk, I usually end up

with the need to presure eyes or even poke my eyes as one of the

consequences.

Your son may not have the same problem, but it does not hurt to

examine his diet. Did he eat too much fried food, crackers, or

anything very dry, crisby, too much spice or etc. Instead give him

more greens veggis, cool fruids, or even alot of plain water and ice.

Jin

> Long post -- sorry.

>

> My son is two and a half, and started eye and nose poking a few

months before we went to see Dr. Goldberg in February. His sticks his

finger around the eye area (like he's putting pressure around it) and

sometimes he puts his finger right into his eye socket. On occasion,

he has pushed his finger out against his upper eye lid. He has also

poked his nose to the extent that it starts to bleed. He seems to do

it mostly when he is in the highchair, during or after a meal. He

also does it the odd time when he is sitting in the glider rocker

chair watching TV (but not that often). He has done it in his car

seat only a few times, and did it a few times on the plane to and

from California. The other day he started eye poking in the bathtub

when he was floating on top of the water and now he does it with

every bath when he starts to float.

>

> I know it is because of a sensory issue. I have determined it is

pretty much when his feet are not touching the ground. From what I

have read, I feel that he is trying to get a sense of where his body

is at when he is not firmly rooted on the ground with his feet. I try

to keep his hands occupied. In the highchair, I give him plastic

rings to chew on in between courses -- I can't feed him all his food

at once because he only likes one food in front of him at a time and

will pitch the rest. I also have two other kids to attend to, so I

can't sit there all through meal time to monitor him. The plastic

rings will work about 50% of the time. In the car, I give him a

Rubbermaid juice box. He drinks the juice and chews on the hard

plastic spout. That works pretty well.

>

> One OT told me to try the brushing technique. I did that but it had

no effect. Another OT and a Behavioural Therapist came for a joint

visit and said to take him out of the highchair for meals. I tried

but he's just not ready. His feet don't touch at the little table I

have set up. And he gets up and wanders around, wiping his hands on

the furniture. He wants to go after his sister's food and she is not

on a special diet so her stuff is off limits. I asked about a

weighted vest but the therapists said it wouldn't help. They gave me

a weighted soft toy to put on his lap while he watches TV or at the

table for meals. He hates it and just throws it off.

>

> Has anyone had this problem or heard of a solution? Any help would

be much appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Rhoda

>

>

>

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I forgot to tell you that I also feel the need to squeeze my nasal

bones at same time too.

When this happens, I usually drinking some herbal tea to " cool " the

body, eat fruits that are " cool " in nature, or just drink a lot of

iced cold water or juice.

In China, we think there are certain food (hot pepper, deep fried

food, tangerine, some spice, and more) raise your body temperature.

That is the time you skin may start broke out, your eye may getting

red, your temper may start flying easily, your noise may start

bleeding, and etc.

Good Luck

Jin

> > Long post -- sorry.

> >

> > My son is two and a half, and started eye and nose poking a few

> months before we went to see Dr. Goldberg in February. His sticks

his

> finger around the eye area (like he's putting pressure around it)

and

> sometimes he puts his finger right into his eye socket. On

occasion,

> he has pushed his finger out against his upper eye lid. He has also

> poked his nose to the extent that it starts to bleed. He seems to

do

> it mostly when he is in the highchair, during or after a meal. He

> also does it the odd time when he is sitting in the glider rocker

> chair watching TV (but not that often). He has done it in his car

> seat only a few times, and did it a few times on the plane to and

> from California. The other day he started eye poking in the

bathtub

> when he was floating on top of the water and now he does it with

> every bath when he starts to float.

> >

> > I know it is because of a sensory issue. I have determined it is

> pretty much when his feet are not touching the ground. From what I

> have read, I feel that he is trying to get a sense of where his

body

> is at when he is not firmly rooted on the ground with his feet. I

try

> to keep his hands occupied. In the highchair, I give him plastic

> rings to chew on in between courses -- I can't feed him all his

food

> at once because he only likes one food in front of him at a time

and

> will pitch the rest. I also have two other kids to attend to, so I

> can't sit there all through meal time to monitor him. The plastic

> rings will work about 50% of the time. In the car, I give him a

> Rubbermaid juice box. He drinks the juice and chews on the hard

> plastic spout. That works pretty well.

> >

> > One OT told me to try the brushing technique. I did that but it

had

> no effect. Another OT and a Behavioural Therapist came for a joint

> visit and said to take him out of the highchair for meals. I tried

> but he's just not ready. His feet don't touch at the little table I

> have set up. And he gets up and wanders around, wiping his hands on

> the furniture. He wants to go after his sister's food and she is

not

> on a special diet so her stuff is off limits. I asked about a

> weighted vest but the therapists said it wouldn't help. They gave

me

> a weighted soft toy to put on his lap while he watches TV or at the

> table for meals. He hates it and just throws it off.

> >

> > Has anyone had this problem or heard of a solution? Any help

would

> be much appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Rhoda

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Jin and Mindy! I will get him tested to see if he has a calcium

deficiency (although he drinks lots of Soy milk with extra calcium and Tropicana

orange juice with added calcium). I will also try cool drinks when I see him

starting to poke. He doesn't eat fried foods or spicy foods, but he may be

reacting to dry foods like you mentioned in your other post Jin. Or maybe he is

getting too much orange juice. My other OT told me today to try weights on his

ankles or shoes when he is sitting in the highchair to see if it helps him.

Rhoda

Re: Sensory issues

I forgot to tell you that I also feel the need to squeeze my nasal

bones at same time too.

When this happens, I usually drinking some herbal tea to " cool " the

body, eat fruits that are " cool " in nature, or just drink a lot of

iced cold water or juice.

In China, we think there are certain food (hot pepper, deep fried

food, tangerine, some spice, and more) raise your body temperature.

That is the time you skin may start broke out, your eye may getting

red, your temper may start flying easily, your noise may start

bleeding, and etc.

Good Luck

Jin

> Rhoda,

>

> I have the eye poking problem myself at times if I eat too much hot

> pepper, fried food, or soming thing too dry.

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You mentioned orange juice - OJ gives me a wierd

allergic reaction that makes my eyes ache and lids

feel heavy, my sinuses burn, and make me very sleepy

and fatigued. Just a thought...

--- Rhoda Boyd <rboyd@...> wrote:

> Thanks Jin and Mindy! I will get him tested to see

> if he has a calcium deficiency (although he drinks

> lots of Soy milk with extra calcium and Tropicana

> orange juice with added calcium). I will also try

> cool drinks when I see him starting to poke. He

> doesn't eat fried foods or spicy foods, but he may

> be reacting to dry foods like you mentioned in your

> other post Jin. Or maybe he is getting too much

> orange juice. My other OT told me today to try

> weights on his ankles or shoes when he is sitting in

> the highchair to see if it helps him.

>

> Rhoda

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In a message dated 5/22/03 12:49:30 AM Central Daylight Time, redwolf@...

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> Coral sand is now showing up in health food stores that stock a wide variety

> of supplements.

>

Hate to sound a bit daft here but is this actual sand or shavings of coral?

What about contamination with heavy metals?

Eye poking can also sometimes be tied to vestibular dysfunction and regular

swinging, spinning and other vestibular input followed by proprioceptive

input like deep pressure and squishes can sometimes eliminate them.

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Most calcium supplements only have a absorption factor of 17 to 20

percent. It has been found the the elder

people who live on the Island of Okinawa in Japan, live very long

disease free lives. The one single factor that has been found is that

these people take coral sand in their diet. Coral sand has a

absorption rate of almost 100 percent. You would have to drink gallons

of orange juice to receive the amount of calcium that is in one table

spoon of coral sand. Coral sand is now showing up in health food stores

that stock a wide variety of supplements.

wrote:

>You mentioned orange juice - OJ gives me a wierd

>allergic reaction that makes my eyes ache and lids

>feel heavy, my sinuses burn, and make me very sleepy

>and fatigued. Just a thought...

>

>--- Rhoda Boyd <rboyd@...> wrote:

>

>

>>Thanks Jin and Mindy! I will get him tested to see

>>if he has a calcium deficiency (although he drinks

>>lots of Soy milk with extra calcium and Tropicana

>>orange juice with added calcium). I will also try

>>cool drinks when I see him starting to poke. He

>>doesn't eat fried foods or spicy foods, but he may

>>be reacting to dry foods like you mentioned in your

>>other post Jin. Or maybe he is getting too much

>>orange juice. My other OT told me today to try

>>weights on his ankles or shoes when he is sitting in

>>the highchair to see if it helps him.

>>

>>Rhoda

>>

>>

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Is Coral Sand the same as the Coral Calcium supplements?

On Thu, 22 May 2003 00:19:39 -0500 Don Schaefer <redwolf@...> writes:

> Most calcium supplements only have a absorption factor of 17 to 20

> percent. It has been found the the elder

> people who live on the Island of Okinawa in Japan, live very long

> disease free lives. The one single factor that has been found is

> that

> these people take coral sand in their diet. Coral sand has a

> absorption rate of almost 100 percent. You would have to drink

> gallons

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This is now a highly controlled process with all batches of product

being subject of strict QA process. No it is not " shavings of coral "

but is a fine ground coral that has gone through very involved

chemical analysis . While there other tract minerals

present in the product, which are also beneficial , but present in very

small amounts. This coral sand is tested for heavy metals

which have shown not to be in the product. This product is from my

understanding is one of the top bio-available source

of almost pure calcium, which contains no fillers or binders.

Googahly@... wrote:

>In a message dated 5/22/03 12:49:30 AM Central Daylight Time, redwolf@...

>writes:

>

>

>

>

>>Coral sand is now showing up in health food stores that stock a wide variety

>>of supplements.

>>

>>

>>

>Hate to sound a bit daft here but is this actual sand or shavings of coral?

>What about contamination with heavy metals?

>

>Eye poking can also sometimes be tied to vestibular dysfunction and regular

>swinging, spinning and other vestibular input followed by proprioceptive

>input like deep pressure and squishes can sometimes eliminate them.

>GAyeln

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Yes coral calcium supplements can and in most cases are coral sand.

There are just a few companies that are now marketing

coral sand, the best way to check how pure the product is can be done

by looking at the ingredients listed on the bottle, and the best

products should contain at least 95 percent calcium. You will find some

products that are listed at 50 to 65 percent

and while they still have the high grade of bio-available calcium in

them , you just don't receive as much calcium and the more refined

products, they still have a much higher amount of available calcium

then you would get for products such as tums, or orange juice with

calcium added. While the highly refined product is going to cost more,

you are getting a lot more calcium

in your system quicker that with other supplements.

mastin8@... wrote:

>Is Coral Sand the same as the Coral Calcium supplements?

>

>On Thu, 22 May 2003 00:19:39 -0500 Don Schaefer <redwolf@...> writes:

>

>

>>Most calcium supplements only have a absorption factor of 17 to 20

>>percent. It has been found the the elder

>>people who live on the Island of Okinawa in Japan, live very long

>>disease free lives. The one single factor that has been found is

>>that

>>these people take coral sand in their diet. Coral sand has a

>>absorption rate of almost 100 percent. You would have to drink

>>gallons

>>

>>

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My daughter started screaming a year ago and we have found that earplugs reduce

her screaming significantly. We use the foam kind you find at drugstores. She

seems so much more relaxed with them on.

Katy

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Hi everyone... Has anyone seen a increase in sensory issues with Pro-Efa?

Does anyone have a child that covers their ears in general? Any information?

I had taken Jade off of it for a week, mainly because it wasn't available and

I began to see a huge increase in the amount of times she covered her ears. In a

restaurant's bathroom, she covered her ears when the toilet flushed loudly, she

just does it sometimes even if it's one of her favorite character's on tv or

songs, she either covers her ears pushes in on her ears.

Another sensory realted thing she does is squeezes her little sister's legs,

and fingers. She is seven months and I don't believe she's hurting her much,

because she rarely cries. Anyone know of a doll or type of squeeze toy I might

give her instead of

her sister's legs and fingers?

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Hi , My son is 5 years old and does the same things - he is on 3-4

PROEFAs a day and has been for about 1 1/2 years. He covers his ears especially

when some of his favorite tv shows are on - Elmo's introductory songs and

several other cartoons that he likes. He is ALWAYS squeezing my hands, fingers

and anyone else's that he is close to in the family. His OT said that he was

seeking " input " as far as the squeezing goes. The covering of the ears, she

said it was varying frequencies, she didn't give me anything in particular to

do for these issues. If anyone has any suggestions, I would definitely be

interested - he is squeezing my hands hard these days at 5 :)

sorry I didn't have any advice on second what you are saying

Phyllis

In a message dated 3/5/2006 1:06:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nicolebouvet@... writes:

everyone... Has anyone seen a increase in sensory issues with Pro-Efa?

Does anyone have a child that covers their ears in general? Any information?

I had taken Jade off of it for a week, mainly because it wasn't available

and I began to see a huge increase in the amount of times she covered her ears.

In a restaurant's bathroom, she covered her ears when the toilet flushed

loudly, she just does it sometimes even if it's one of her favorite character's

on tv or songs, she either covers her ears pushes in on her ears.

Another sensory related thing she does is squeezes her little sister's legs,

and fingers. She is seven months and I don't believe she's hurting her much,

because she rarely cries. Anyone know of a doll or type of squeeze toy I

might give her instead of

her sister's legs and fingers?

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Thanks for answering. I appreciate knowing that someone else

experiences this with their child. I just wish I knew why she was

doing it.

>

>

> Hi , My son is 5 years old and does the same things - he is

on 3-4

> PROEFAs a day and has been for about 1 1/2 years. He covers his

ears especially

> when some of his favorite tv shows are on - Elmo's introductory

songs and

> several other cartoons that he likes. He is ALWAYS squeezing my

hands, fingers

> and anyone else's that he is close to in the family. His OT said

that he was

> seeking " input " as far as the squeezing goes. The covering of

the ears, she

> said it was varying frequencies, she didn't give me anything in

particular to

> do for these issues. If anyone has any suggestions, I would

definitely be

> interested - he is squeezing my hands hard these days at 5 :)

>

> sorry I didn't have any advice on second what you are saying

>

> Phyllis

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2006 1:06:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> nicolebouvet@... writes:

>

> everyone... Has anyone seen a increase in sensory issues with Pro-

Efa?

> Does anyone have a child that covers their ears in general? Any

information?

> I had taken Jade off of it for a week, mainly because it wasn't

available

> and I began to see a huge increase in the amount of times she

covered her ears.

> In a restaurant's bathroom, she covered her ears when the toilet

flushed

> loudly, she just does it sometimes even if it's one of her

favorite character's

> on tv or songs, she either covers her ears pushes in on her ears.

>

> Another sensory related thing she does is squeezes her little

sister's legs,

> and fingers. She is seven months and I don't believe she's

hurting her much,

> because she rarely cries. Anyone know of a doll or type of

squeeze toy I

> might give her instead of

> her sister's legs and fingers?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi

Have you tried the therapy ball or sometimes they are called stress balls

for your son some you can leave in your pocket and when ever your son feel

the need he will have it in his pocket

hope this helps

Jean

Re: [ ] Re: Sensory issues

>

> Hi , My son is 5 years old and does the same things - he is on 3-4

> PROEFAs a day and has been for about 1 1/2 years. He covers his ears

> especially

> when some of his favorite tv shows are on - Elmo's introductory songs and

> several other cartoons that he likes. He is ALWAYS squeezing my hands,

> fingers

> and anyone else's that he is close to in the family. His OT said that he

> was

> seeking " input " as far as the squeezing goes. The covering of the ears,

> she

> said it was varying frequencies, she didn't give me anything in

> particular to

> do for these issues. If anyone has any suggestions, I would definitely be

> interested - he is squeezing my hands hard these days at 5 :)

>

> sorry I didn't have any advice on second what you are saying

>

> Phyllis

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/5/2006 1:06:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> nicolebouvet@... writes:

>

> everyone... Has anyone seen a increase in sensory issues with Pro-Efa?

> Does anyone have a child that covers their ears in general? Any

> information?

> I had taken Jade off of it for a week, mainly because it wasn't available

> and I began to see a huge increase in the amount of times she covered her

> ears.

> In a restaurant's bathroom, she covered her ears when the toilet flushed

> loudly, she just does it sometimes even if it's one of her favorite

> character's

> on tv or songs, she either covers her ears pushes in on her ears.

>

> Another sensory related thing she does is squeezes her little sister's

> legs,

> and fingers. She is seven months and I don't believe she's hurting her

> much,

> because she rarely cries. Anyone know of a doll or type of squeeze toy I

> might give her instead of

> her sister's legs and fingers?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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my son does this too. especially when there is a

automatic flush in the bathroom. i tried the AIT, saw

some improvements but it did not address this issue.

so, any help will be really appreciated.

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So the " stress balls " are about what 1 inch in diameter and the child just

squeezes the balls?? Do you buy them at the therapy shop on line??? I need to

give him something to squeeze besides my hands and fingers :) Thank you

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You can get the stress balls just about anywhere and for under 2

bucks. They come in different sizes and in various colors

or printed to look like the planet earth, smiley face etc. Try office

supply stores for example. Here's one for example on sale at

Staples:

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesSearch?keyword=stress+ba\

ll & storeId=10001 & catalogId=10051 & langId=-1 & errorUrl=searchnoresults & searchSumUrl\

=searchresultssummary & searchUnsumUrl=searchresults & fromUrl=home

(or if you want to spend more -you can buy them at therapy places online)

http://www.bindependent.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action & key=hyg640

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Staples has stress balls or you can Goggle the words " stress balls " and it

will give you a bunch of web sites

but I would try an office supply store first they will be the cheapest as

opposed to a therapy store they come in all different shapes and sizes

Good Luck

Jean

Re: [ ] Re: Sensory issues

> So the " stress balls " are about what 1 inch in diameter and the child just

> squeezes the balls?? Do you buy them at the therapy shop on line??? I need

> to

> give him something to squeeze besides my hands and fingers :) Thank you

>

>

>

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At Big 5 and other sports stores they have these neat stress/exercise balls

that change color when you squeeze them for about $5. My mom was sent

there by her PT when she badly broke and sprained her finger. At our store

they were up near the front. It might make things more interesting for

your child. I have a hard time putting the ball down when I start playing

with it! Hers is purple and turns pink with all kinds of neat swirls when

you squeeze it. The harder you squeeze the more pink because the outer

layer thins out. They made them in green/yellow, blue/green and several

other combos.

Miche

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>So the " stress balls " are about what 1 inch in diameter and the child just

>squeezes the balls?? Do you buy them at the therapy shop on line??? I need

>to

>give him something to squeeze besides my hands and fingers :) Thank you

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