Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 > He annoys me a lot, with his try to argue what is instead of > questioning his thoughts. Tami to moderate this list does not mean an argument with what is. As has pointed out again and again LOVE ACTS. When the US was hit by the hurricanes offered her house to the needy and donated money. I suspect that she questioned any stressful thoughts she had around the US government and the hurricane, then from a clear space of love she acted to send some aid. Perhaps the moderators of this list could learn from 's example, they could question their stressful thoughts around moderating like: " People won't like me if I block their posts " , " Loving what is means doing nothing " , " If I delete Tami's posts I am not loving what is " etc. Then from a clear and loving place love could act to do what needs to be done. The most loving thing to do might be to warn a member, block their post or do nothing. Whatever the action, it is most likely to be appropriate when it arises from a space of clarity and love. Such an action is not an argument with what is, it is an expression of who we really are. Have a beautiful day " For the personality, love is nothing more than agreement. If I agree with you, you love me. And the minute I don't agree with you, the minute I question one of your sacred beliefs, I become your enemy; you divorce me in your mind. Then you start looking for all the reasons why you're right, and you stay focused outside yourself. When you're focused outside and believe that your problem is caused by someone else, rather than by your attachment to the story you're believing in the moment, then you are your own victim, and the situation appears to be hopeless. " Byron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I like this forum and i enjoy reading the emails.. so for me deleting some would not be an act of love.. no one has to delete anything because we are all free to read all the emails or only a few.. just had a show on anti depressants and pscyhiatry and talked to a scientologist.. wisemen.. who wrote pscyhiatry ultimate betrayal.. and he never mentions his book.. i wonder why not. maybe they wouldnt let him.. Its a very good book .. oh well -- In Loving-what-is , " lovetheworkofbk " <lovetheworkofbk@y...> wrote: > > > > > He annoys me a lot, with his try to argue what is instead of > > questioning his thoughts. > > > Tami to moderate this list does not mean an argument with what is. > As has pointed out again and again LOVE ACTS. When the US was > hit by the hurricanes offered her house to the needy and > donated money. I suspect that she questioned any stressful thoughts > she had around the US government and the hurricane, then from a > clear space of love she acted to send some aid. > Perhaps the moderators of this list could learn from 's > example, they could question their stressful thoughts around > moderating like: " People won't like me if I block their > posts " , " Loving what is means doing nothing " , " If I delete Tami's > posts I am not loving what is " etc. Then from a clear and loving > place love could act to do what needs to be done. The most loving > thing to do might be to warn a member, block their post or do > nothing. Whatever the action, it is most likely to be appropriate > when it arises from a space of clarity and love. Such an action is > not an argument with what is, it is an expression of who we really > are. > > Have a beautiful day > > > " For the personality, love is nothing more than agreement. If I > agree with you, you love me. And the minute I don't agree with you, > the minute I question one of your sacred beliefs, I become your > enemy; you divorce me in your mind. Then you start looking for all > the reasons why you're right, and you stay focused outside yourself. > When you're focused outside and believe that your problem is caused > by someone else, rather than by your attachment to the story you're > believing in the moment, then you are your own victim, and the > situation appears to be hopeless. " Byron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Finally! Thanks for the answer! In this post I see no arguing with reality. You are just experessing how you would run a group, as a result of my question. But then you are saying some interesting things. " I am not arguing with what this list is now, because that would be insane. " Since when did THAT ever stop anyone from arguing with what is? And don´t tell me you never argue with what is, because you do, so that makes you just as insane as the rest of us. Believing a thought like this sounds like insanity to me. " I notice that from the space of peace and clarity within me, love would move me to act as above if I was moderator. " So from your loving space of clarity and peace you would like to prevent me to send in more than 3 worksheets a day, or give support to people who ask for it more than 3 times a day? Why? What is so loving about that? And from your loving space of clarity and peace you would like to prevent people from expressing appreciation, love or attention for each other. Why? What is so loving about that? And can you please answer where you see the love in those actions? Because I don´t. I think most of your rules would have been great in any other support-groups for people who seek help for their emotional problems. But they don´t know about the Work, they don´t know what to do when they get triggered, upset and angry by what someone posts but to stay triggered, upset and angry (assuming here, from my own experience). But here we do! We know how to use the four questions and the turnaround. We know how to question our mind. And it´s only in our mind a problem exist. So as I see it, use all the posts that triggers you (without reference to the Work, inappropriate sexual references, one-liners expressing appreciation, love or attention for each other, members who consistently disregard the wishes of the majority) to set yourself free! Question your beliefs, inquire your stressful thoughts, use the Work! If ANYTHING written in this group triggers you, can you get a better opportunity to take a closer look at your own belief system? Why are YOU apart of this group? Love, > Hi , > > Here is a list of what I would like to do if I was a moderator, just > my preferences > > I would limit members to 3 posts per day. > I would delete all posts with inappropriate sexual references. > I would warn members when they post anything without reference to > the Work. > I would warn members not to post one-liners expressing appreciation, > love or attention for each other. > I would remind members to edit out any unnecessary material from > previous posts. > I would permanently block the posts of members who consistently > disregard the wishes of the majority of members on this > list. > I would remind members of the purpose of this list when the > conversation begins to stray. > > Please note that I am not arguing with what this list is now, > because that would be insane. I notice that from the space of peace > and clarity within me, love would move me to act as above if I was > moderator. > > As for what you should or shouldn't do as a moderator well that is > none of my business, so I can't help you there. I want to be self- > realized not or realized. > > Have a beautiful day > > > " The old song asks, " Why do fools fall in love? " Actually, only > fools don't fall in love. Only a fool would believe the lonely, > stressful thoughts that tell him that anything could separate him > from another human being, or from the rest of the human race, or > from birds, trees, pavement, and sky. " Byron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hi Love, thank you for answering! No, I don´t see how useful a posting limit could be. On the contrary. But then I don´t share your story of what belong on this board or not either. Love, > > Hi , > > I think that limiting the posts to three would be brilliant. If a > limit is imposed people might think more carefully about which posts > they responded to. They might think twice about posting one-liners of > love, approval or appreciation, because that would quickly use up all > their posts. It would dramatically reduce the amount of traffic on > this list. People could actually catch up with all the posts if they > didn't read the list for a week or more. I could go on, but I hope you > see how useful a posting limit could be. Of course it doesn't have to > be three, it could be four or five or whatever the group as a whole > was most comfortable with. > > Have a beautiful day > > > " Love is what you are already. Love doesn't seek anything. It's > already complete. It doesn't want, doesn't need, has no shoulds. It > already has everything it wants, it already is everything it wants, > just the way it wants it. So when I hear people say that they love > someone and want to be loved in return, I know they're not talking > about love. They're talking about something else. " Byron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I agree with you Love, that loving what is doesn´t have to mean being passive. Love acts. That is my experience. And just because that you don´t know of all the actions it doesn´t have to mean they don´t excist, right? Maybe you could question your stressful thoughts around my moderating like: is a passive (and therefore an unloving moderator) because______. Now you might reply that this is not a stressful thought for you. Well, guess what;), I don´t have any stressful thoughts around my moderating either! And I have no problem in acting when love tells me to do so. Remember my fight with " Sue " and " Tom " ? Well, I revealed a lot of their secrets in this group in my hate-letter to them. Later that night " Tom " and I talked and he asked me to delete my hate-letter so that all his secrets wouldn´t be out in the open for every new member to read. Love said " YES! " , and I have never been happier to be a moderator. Then I realized that every person who had replied to my hate-letter had that letter in their post so I deleted every post that contained my post. And I didn´t have a story of that someone would be mad at me because their post was gone. Love in action. Follow your own advice, Love: question your stressful thoughts around moderating! You are the one bringing it up all the time... Thank you, > > Tami to moderate this list does not mean an argument with what is. > As has pointed out again and again LOVE ACTS. When the US was > hit by the hurricanes offered her house to the needy and > donated money. I suspect that she questioned any stressful thoughts > she had around the US government and the hurricane, then from a > clear space of love she acted to send some aid. > Perhaps the moderators of this list could learn from 's > example, they could question their stressful thoughts around > moderating like: " People won't like me if I block their > posts " , " Loving what is means doing nothing " , " If I delete Tami's > posts I am not loving what is " etc. Then from a clear and loving > place love could act to do what needs to be done. The most loving > thing to do might be to warn a member, block their post or do > nothing. Whatever the action, it is most likely to be appropriate > when it arises from a space of clarity and love. Such an action is > not an argument with what is, it is an expression of who we really > are. > > Have a beautiful day > > > " For the personality, love is nothing more than agreement. If I > agree with you, you love me. And the minute I don't agree with you, > the minute I question one of your sacred beliefs, I become your > enemy; you divorce me in your mind. Then you start looking for all > the reasons why you're right, and you stay focused outside yourself. > When you're focused outside and believe that your problem is caused > by someone else, rather than by your attachment to the story you're > believing in the moment, then you are your own victim, and the > situation appears to be hopeless. " Byron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Can you resend the poll? I seem to have missed it.. thanks ~peace the poll Dear Group members, I had a look at the vote results so far. Since the questions are multiple choice, I can only assume how many members actually took part at the poll. So far, a minimum of 17 people have voted. So far, a minimum of 17 people are taking measures to influence the nature of the postings so far. I'd like to ask those people that are mostly passive in this group, but do enjoy or would like to enjoy reading in this group, to express their opinion. Because so far, I could take the results as a wish of about 2000 people to leave things as they are. That may or may not be the majority's wish. At this part I want to express my thanks to the people who already have voted. Note that you may change your vote until the poll is closed. Love, (a Moderator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Dear I am not , but I am in love with him. (What is that has to do with your question?) Any way, I do belive that it is not too late to vote here is the link: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Loving-what-is/surveys?id=12196358 T -- Re: the poll Can you resend the poll? I seem to have missed it.. thanks ~peace the poll Dear Group members, I had a look at the vote results so far. Since the questions are multiple choice, I can only assume how many members actually took part at the poll. So far, a minimum of 17 people have voted. So far, a minimum of 17 people are taking measures to influence the nature of the postings so far. I'd like to ask those people that are mostly passive in this group, but do enjoy or would like to enjoy reading in this group, to express their opinion. Because so far, I could take the results as a wish of about 2000 people to leave things as they are. That may or may not be the majority's wish. At this part I want to express my thanks to the people who already have voted. Note that you may change your vote until the poll is closed. Love, (a Moderator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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