Re: Charges Dropped Against Doctor Over Autistic Bo

May 7, 2008

In a message dated 5/7/2008 10:00:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

mmmckinn@... writes:

If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this mess.

Just a note about that -- If the US did that, then they would have to admit

that the mercury and other toxins in the vaccines are a problem, and I don't

ever see that happening. They are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies

just as much as the oil companies.

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May 7, 2008

I'm not even going to state how I feel about a 'doctor' here in

Houston that parents worship, and gladly turn their little 3 year olds

over to, and yet, and he is a Chiropractor. A Chiropractor treating a

child for Autism. Many DAN Practitioners are not Doctors. How they

can treat children medically or 'recommend' any treatment is beside

me. No " Doctor " with a DC, ND or RD is going to treat my Autistic

son. He will just have to stay Autistic. He's not a lab rat.

This poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this mess.

May 7, 2008

And they probably will as soon as they can get around the fact that Big

Pharma didn't cause it to be needed and or can mandate something so

parents can't sue.

I would not let a chiropractor due chelation on my child but there are

qualified doctors out there who are successfully treating thousands of

kids with Autism. I don't know

one main stream doctor who ever cured or recovered a single child with

autism. You can wait or you can fight or you can take the word of the

AMA and believe that vaccinating

babies for HEP B is a good idea. That giving all those vaccines will not

cause Autism even though there is not a single shred of evidence that

says 40 vaccines are safe for children (because vaccines were not tested

on children, who would agree to do that? I was told....) or that giving

vaccines to older citizens is not causing irreversible harm. It's a

tough choice, I wanted to believe I'm not a crackpot hippy but my eyes

don't lie and when I questioned my eyes my doctors intelligence and

pedestal crumbled. " I am sorry Mrs. Sherman but you know there is no

cure for this Autism " ah, well you know what buddy you were wrong

because my child is recovering and recovering without your prescription

drugs and I have a real doctor who listened when I said I thought he was

in pain and we found the source of that pain in his gut and in the

Glutithione he doesn't use properly and finally the toxic overload we

are removing...it took me many years to find a doctor who understood and

knew what to look for. Now younger children are seeing benefit and

research IS being done. One day we will all benefit from a few crack pot

parents and doctors who took a chance so we all could have a chance at

feeling better. God bless them.

Trina

>

> I'm not even going to state how I feel about a 'doctor' here in

> Houston that parents worship, and gladly turn their little 3 year olds

> over to, and yet, and he is a Chiropractor. A Chiropractor treating a

> child for Autism. Many DAN Practitioners are not Doctors. How they

> can treat children medically or 'recommend' any treatment is beside

> me. No " Doctor " with a DC, ND or RD is going to treat my Autistic

> son. He will just have to stay Autistic. He's not a lab rat.

>

> This poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

> should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

> glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

> treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

> it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this mess.

>

May 8, 2008

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poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this mess.

I agree with you in that medical negligence is just that - medical

negligence. It happens in all areas of medical practice. However,

chelation is not something new that has come out of DAN! or autism

treatment. If you go to www.pubmed.gov and search " chelation heavy metal

toxicity " , you will find research articles dating back to 1962. The first

studies looked at a method to help with iron toxicity. Chelation therapy in

and of itself is not hocus pocus. DMSA under the name Chemet, is FDA

approved to treat children with lead poisoning. There are many different

protocols out there, some much more aggressive than others. Parents have to

decide if chelation is right for their child and with what protocol they

want to proceed. If it is not a risk you are willing to take, I completely

respect you for that.

It also looks like they are still recruiting for a clinical trial (last I

checked, you had to be in the Bethesda area, but that was when they were

first opening the trial up):

Mercury Chelation to Treat Autism

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00376194?term=autism+and+chelation & ran\

k=1

As to the gov. providing " free " treatment...IMHO, I do not think they would

provide free treatment for anything.

Best Regards,

Sofia

May 12, 2008

>

> I'm not even going to state how I feel about a 'doctor' here in

> Houston that parents worship, and gladly turn their little 3 year olds

> over to, and yet, and he is a Chiropractor. A Chiropractor treating a

> child for Autism. Many DAN Practitioners are not Doctors. How they

> can treat children medically or 'recommend' any treatment is beside

> me. No " Doctor " with a DC, ND or RD is going to treat my Autistic

> son. He will just have to stay Autistic. He's not a lab rat.

>

> This poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

> should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

> glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

> treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

> it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this

mess.

*****

Amen!! I'm concerned that some, and notice I said " some " of these DAN

doctors are using us...using our desperation, our need to help our

children. Please don't use anything that your gut tells you is

probably not right.

>

May 12, 2008

I am not going to comment on theses posts below directly. Everyone is entitled

to an opinion. However, painting those of us that believe firmly in the DAN

system as greedy and self serving is very short sighted and ignorant. I have a

PDD-NOS daughter (9 years old) that went through all of the mainstream

dope-and-hope treatments that nearly bankrupted my family, too. It was not

until I took the DAN protocol and started using it on her that she has become a

child who is expected to recover. The cost has been a fraction of the mainstream

medical approach. Last year at this time she was in an institution. This year,

she is an A and B student and is in regular school half days. The only change

was DAN protocol. In the clinic that I am starting, the price structure is so

low that the clinic will just about break even and very little more. I have

other business interests that will feed my family. It was not a chiropractor or

a naturopath that gave your children those vaccines that so many of you seem to

despise. It was not a chiropractor or a naturopath that prescribes Risperdal

and says " live with it " . And, ironically enough, this thread seems to be

blaming a chiropractor or naturopath for chelating this child to his death. The

person who chelated this child IV was a medical doctor. The chelating agent he

used was highly contraindicated. IV chelation is a very harsh and difficult

procedure to successfully use and only gentle, long term chelation is

comfortable to the conservative providers that I have talked to and it is ONLY

done at the completion of many other therapies and only then if it is indicated.

Therefore, before you " amen and pass the plate " , understand that not everyone or

even MOST everyone who treats these kids does so for money. I am a recognized

expert in the area of worker's compensation and I could make a fortune with a

practice like that. I choose to live a meager life and help as many children

and adults as possible. I choose to spend upwards of $50,000 in tuition and

travel to learn about the treatment protocols and learning abilities for

autistic children. The best course of action you can take is to avoid those of

us who you object to and keep searching for whatever it is you think will help

your child. It obviously is not me. I have practiced in this state honorably

for 16 years and have never stepped outside my practice and have never had a

claim against me for any purpose. I am hopeful that eventually you will realize

that the overwhelming majority of DAN providers could make a lot more money

doing other things for a living but choose to treat these children and adults

because of dedication to humanity, not the almighty dollar that you think we

find so attractive. Thank you for allowing me to have my say.

Jeff Cunningham, DC

, TX

www.zoesplaceclinic.com

Re: Charges Dropped Against Doctor Over

Autistic Bo

>

> I'm not even going to state how I feel about a 'doctor' here in

> Houston that parents worship, and gladly turn their little 3 year olds

> over to, and yet, and he is a Chiropractor. A Chiropractor treating a

> child for Autism. Many DAN Practitioners are not Doctors. How they

> can treat children medically or 'recommend' any treatment is beside

> me. No " Doctor " with a DC, ND or RD is going to treat my Autistic

> son. He will just have to stay Autistic. He's not a lab rat.

>

> This poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

> should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

> glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

> treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

> it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this

mess.

*****

Amen!! I'm concerned that some, and notice I said " some " of these DAN

doctors are using us...using our desperation, our need to help our

children. Please don't use anything that your gut tells you is

probably not right.

>

May 12, 2008

I understand where you are coming from. However, I don't get how

Chiropractors can end up being DAN Autism Practitioners, anymore than

I can with an MBA in Finance. You are not allowed to prescribe any

medication, any more than I am, yet you can recommend treatment for

Autism.

But there is a HUGE alarm when DAN practitioners/Autism doctors don't

take Insurance. Most don't, by the way. You will pay these doctors

thousands in cash, each month and then you can submit to insurance,

which means as a doctor, they don't buy down the rate for you. The

loss differential is your problem.

Bottom line, that kind of practice is preying on Autism families for a

hope for a miracle cure, which does not exist the last time I checked.

Why do I know a 'cure' doesn't exist? My son would have already been

'cured' because I would have written the check in blood. I would have

robbed the local bank at gunpoint, I would have written hot checks all

over the world and gone to prison so the kid could be normal. I would

have sold everything I have to travel to Switzerland to get the cure.

I have an Autism Medical clinic that takes insurance up front,

MyCareClinic in Austin. I can vouch for them. They answer questions

for FREE. They are a true medical provider in every since of the

word, yet a World Class Autism clinic. These doctors in TX that

charge $100 consult fees every time they answer a patient's question

through their nurse, is not about to receive my endorsement. As a

matter of fact, I will slam them every time. That's alot of what you

are reading here. It's the classic case of " you hear the complaints,

not the compliments. "

If you happen to be one of the good guys, then that's better for the

Autism community in Texas. However, that would also make you very

rare, Dr. Cunningham. Good luck with helping our little Autistic

Angels. Please, please, please, post your successes.

> >

> > I'm not even going to state how I feel about a 'doctor' here in

> > Houston that parents worship, and gladly turn their little 3

year olds

> > over to, and yet, and he is a Chiropractor. A Chiropractor

treating a

> > child for Autism. Many DAN Practitioners are not Doctors. How they

> > can treat children medically or 'recommend' any treatment is beside

> > me. No " Doctor " with a DC, ND or RD is going to treat my Autistic

> > son. He will just have to stay Autistic. He's not a lab rat.

> >

> > This poor little boy died because of negligence. Negligence that

> > should not have been there. Negligence is negligence. There is no

> > glorifying it in the name of saving Autistic children with unproven

> > treatment. If chelation worked, the US government would be providing

> > it free to all Autistic children all over the world, to stop this

> mess.

> *****

>

> Amen!! I'm concerned that some, and notice I said " some " of these DAN

> doctors are using us...using our desperation, our need to help our

> children. Please don't use anything that your gut tells you is

> probably not right.

> >

>

May 12, 2008

It is clear that nothing I can do will ever convince you that there are many,

many people who work long hard hours at great personal sacrifice for your

children. It is a shame the people become so hardened to this issue. I have

never " cured " anyone of anything, nor have I claimed to. The word that is used

is " recovery " . Autism is a lifetime condition, but I will never give up on my

daughter or any other child that comes to my office. If people like you talk so

bad about my abilities without even giving me a chance to get the building

finished, then the clinic will likely fail and I can do other things with my

life. However, I am going to do everything I can to help these families. I

also would take exception to your statement regarding greed. I have never

charged a person to speak with them on the phone, and since I announced this

clinic opening I have spoken with about 2 dozen parents. One conversation

lasted over an hour. If you go to one of your " real " clinics in the northeast,

they have a waiting list of 2 years and charge $1500 for the first visit. I

absolutely cannot see doing that to people, so my office will likely work in the

red most of the time. My other businesses will support it, as I said before. I

do not take a cut of the money for lab work, as the patients can get a better

price by dealing with the lab and all the labs I use take insurance. As far as

what supplements you can buy, yep. Your MBA will allow you to buy supplements.

Now, trying to figure out exactly which one to buy and how to make the

transulfuration pathway efficient is a different story. However, if you judge

any provider based on whether they allow insurance companies to tell them how to

practice and how much to charge then you are talking to the wrong guy. I have

been in this business too long to allow that to happen. I am very happy you

have a group with whom you are satisfied. I have heard many good things about

them. I am here to fill a void, not compete with existing clinics. If the void

does not exist, I won't make it in this business and it will have been a huge

waste of every penny I had saved. But it is worth the chance to help kids have

improvement in their quality of life. Unfortunately, I will not be posting on

this list anymore. The amazing emotion and hatred that underlies some of the

posts wears on me after while and I do not like having my good name bashed, even

by a higlhy qualified MBA. One other thing: I am qualified to utilize this

protocol and will do so until no person wants to undergo the treatment at my

office.