Re: The Milk Diet -allergies

[Guest guest]

In about two days I had a cold, the first in two years or so. The symptoms

included irritated nasal passage, mucous and malaise. After about a week, I

ran out of milkshake ingredients and the symptoms started to diminish. In

another week I received my second dairy shipment and resumed the

milkshakes. By the second day the symptoms resumed full force. After a few

days, I quit the milkshakes and the symptoms are diminishing again.

-----Bill, from this and your previous post, it sounds like you have an allergy

to

cow's milk. I had a blood test that showed I have an allergy to the proteins in

cow's milk, and while some people who can't tolerate pastuerized/homogenized

dairy do fine on raw, this is not the case for many. It's a wonderful food IF

you

aren't allergic to it, just as eggs and beans are wonderful foods IF you aren't

allergic to them (I'm allergic to all of these). Have you tried raw goat's milk

to

see if you react better? Many people who can't tolerate cow's milk have no

problem with goat's milk.

Be cautious of those who tell you that you're symptoms are just " detox " . While

this MAY be case, ignoring the reality of food intolerances, and encouraging

people to ignore their bodies' distress is unwise, in my opinion. Detox is a

temporary condition, and I believe that a person who is experiencing detox

intuitively knows that he/she is getting better even though experiencing a

healing crisis. The general trend is better health, though there are bad

patches...

If I were you I would go to a naturopathic doctor and ask for an ELISA test, or

an ALCAT test, to determine if milk is a good food for you. You can also do a

pulse test, where you drink milk first thing in the morning on an empty stomach,

and take your pulse 15 minutes after (you need to get a base reading before

drinking the milk). If your pulse goes up 10 beat per minute or more you are

most likely allergic. In some people the pulse slows down significantly

instead.

I used this test on eggs, which made my pulse elevate, before I ever took the

blood test, which confirmed a severe immune response to eggs.

Just as people who try raw milk and have reactions shouldn't conclude that raw

milk isn't the wonderful food that people on this list believe it is, believers

in the

health qualities of raw milk should not be threatened by the fact that there are

those who don't do well on it. Many people have developed allergies to cow's

milk because of SAD and/or poor dietary practices of their parents, and while

lactose intolerance frequently isn't a problem with raw milk, protein allergies

are

a different animal, and make drinking any kind of cow's milk problematic for

many people. Those of you who are experiencing significant weight gain on

raw milk (if you weren't underweight to begin with) should consider that you

may have an allergy/sensitivity. There is a book by a man named Haas called

" The False Fat Diet " that addresses the water retention and weight gain caused

by food allergies.

This is in no way an attack on raw dairy, as I myself enjoy and believe in raw

dairy (goat's milk, butter oil... no protein!, and raw colostrum... differs

enough

from milk that I'm not allergic). I just think that milk allergies are a real

issue

and should be addressed when people share on this list that drinking raw milk

is causing them more problems than it's alleviating.

[Guest guest]

At 04:03 PM 2/29/04 -0000, you wrote:

>If I were you I would go to a naturopathic doctor and ask for an ELISA

test, or

>an ALCAT test, to determine if milk is a good food for you. You can also

do a

>pulse test, where you drink milk first thing in the morning on an empty

stomach,

>and take your pulse 15 minutes after (you need to get a base reading before

>drinking the milk). If your pulse goes up 10 beat per minute or more you

are

>most likely allergic. In some people the pulse slows down significantly

instead.

>I used this test on eggs, which made my pulse elevate, before I ever took

the

>blood test, which confirmed a severe immune response to eggs.

Are there certain types of things that pulse test works for, but not for

others?

MFJ

Any moment in which you feel like dancing is a perfect moment.

[Guest guest]

Before concluding that it is the milk, what else is in the milkshakes you are taking?

Ted

Re: The Milk Diet -allergies

In about two days I had a cold, the first in two years or so. The symptoms included irritated nasal passage, mucous and malaise. After about a week, I ran out of milkshake ingredients and the symptoms started to diminish. In another week I received my second dairy shipment and resumed the milkshakes. By the second day the symptoms resumed full force. After a few days, I quit the milkshakes and the symptoms are diminishing again.

[Guest guest]

Thank you . I really appreciate your taking the time to provide your insights. I ask your further help in understanding this subject. If this is off topic, I apologize. I am on this list because I want to be well and help others be well. Milk has been spoken of as a potent healing food.

The term "allergy" has remained vague for me. It seems to include most any disease symptoms that result from touching, breathing or eating substances which don't cause this for most people. In the case of eating, the mechanism for this I have read about is a porous intestine which would allow incompletely digested food to pass into the blood stream, overtaxing the immune system. I don't know if this theory is proven. I would wonder how there could be such pores and not have hemorrhaging.

Below are responses that arose in considering your statements.

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:03:58 -0000 Subject: Re: The Milk Diet -allergies In about two days I had a cold, the first in two years or so. The symptoms included irritated nasal passage, mucous and malaise. After about a week, I ran out of milkshake ingredients and the symptoms started to diminish....

-----Bill, from this and your previous post, it sounds like you have an allergy to cow's milk.

[i've heard mucous called an allergy symptom but is an irritated membrane such?]

I had a blood test that showed I have an allergy to the proteins in cow's milk,

[Was this called an "allergy" or an "antibody"?]

Have you tried raw goat's milk to see if you react better? Many people who can't tolerate cow's milk have no problem with goat's milk. [No. I haven't found any so far.]

If I were you I would go to a naturopathic doctor and ask for an ELISA test, or an ALCAT test, to determine if milk is a good food for you. You can also do a pulse test, where you drink milk first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and take your pulse 15 minutes after

[i will certainly do the pulse test tomorrow morning.]

This is in no way an attack on raw dairy, as I myself enjoy and believe in raw dairy (goat's milk, butter oil... no protein!, and raw colostrum... differs enough from milk that I'm not allergic).

[is it colostrum from goats or cows that you are not allergic to?]