Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Dear Dr. Fehring (), I think there is a place for simple methods that can " be taught in 10 minutes. " I don't mean " better than nothing " as a negative statement, but as a relatively positive one, depending on the setting. But there are some issues to consider- NFP requires behavioral change, especially if it is to be NFP rather than BAFT (barriers at fertile time), etc. Behavioral change will usually be easier to effect in the context of an ongoing relationship with an NFP teacher than in one or two 10 minute office visits (in my observation is this is usually the case). Couples with more complex issues (such as infertility or gynecologic problems) who want to use NFP data to help manage their condition do better with more detailed instruction in more detailed methods, in my clinical experience. I have had the experience on quite a few occasions of both patients and colleagues getting " 10 minute " instruction in one method or another, assuming it would be adequate, and then being surprised and totally negative thereafter when the method " didn't work " . A lot of complex issues here, but not a good outcome when they decide all NFP doesn't work based on these experiences. If a simple method is relatively good but not optimumly effective, that trade-off needs to be made extremely clear to the user. Do they prefer simplicity at the expense of some margin of effectiveness? I don't think it is optimum medicine for diabetics for me to try to do complete diabetic teaching in a 10 minute office visit. Likewise I don't think it is optimum reproductive medicine for me to try to teach NFP in a 10 minute office visit. That's my perspective. But these are issues that can be studied with data, not just opinions. I look forward to future studies that can address how much teaching is really needed for optimum use by specific couples in specific situations. Joe Stanford quote: "Yes there are methods of NFP that can be taught 5 or 10 minutes (and they may be better than nothing), but I believe that the best NFP instruction will not generally fit into office visits, but should be done as a separate service. It helps to have the NFP instructor available in the same office or very accessible close by." Dear Dr. Stanford (i.e., Joe): Thank you for your perspectives on short NFP methods, but for the sake of conversation (on this NFP discussion list) - what standards or criteria would you use to define "the best NFP instruction" -- and why do NFP methods that would only require a short 5 - 10 minutes be only "better than nothing"? For the most part we are competing with birth control methods that can be provided in a short office visits - e.g., hormonal pills; condoms; depo shots - methods that do not require a lot of behavioral change. When Sandrock, CNM mentioned that the TwoDay method was a "no brainer", I thought that is a good criterion for a method of birth control i.e., "simple to use" and I would add "simple to teach" and according to the latest study - it is effective in helping couples avoid pregnancy. If the method is effective in helping couples to achieve their goal of avoiding pregnancy, it is simple to use, and it does not separate the unitive from the procreation act, is that not a good method? You can reach many people with simple non-complex methods. Not always easy to do with complex methods - that require extensive training of teachers and of the couple users. And I am not saying that easy is always the best. I would also add that changing behaviors will occur faster when we can reduce behavior hurdles - like learning complex methods of NFP and requiring extensive group teaching and/or follow-up. I believe that Larry Severy, PhD (psychology professor at the University of Florida) mentioned at the Marquette conference in 2002 - couples would prefer to use nothing --- but if they have to use something - it needs to be simple and accurate. Furthermore, if health professionals could incorporate teaching a NFP method into their busy office practice - then maybe more health professionals would and could provide it. Your thoughts? Hope all is well. J. Fehring Professor Marquette University PS - please do not take this as an attack on any one method of NFP --- it is a general comment on modern methods of NFP (OM, STM, etc) - including the Marquette Model. We have a hard time getting couples to come to one group session and a follow-up. -- ______________________________ ph B. Stanford, MD, MSPH Health Research Center Dept. Family & Prev. Med. University of Utah jstanford@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Dear Prof. Fehring (), I know we discussed it already some time ago - but still some comments: 1) Effectiveness of any family planning method is a theoretical construct. The sentence "this method has such effectiveness" is formally wrong - effectiveness is conditional on many attributes of the given study, of the population under study etc. 2) Effectiveness is an average measure: couples contributing cycles in effectiveness study differ considerably on individual level in parameters which are unknown (for example baseline fecundity) and known (for example age, parity); additionaly couples differ on the behavioural level. 3) There is some but rather limited evidence, that simple methods can achieve a similar use effectiveness as more complex methods. However, more complex methods have higher perfect use effectiveness than simples methods - thus even if the average effect is similar, individual couples can benefit from the higher effectiveness of more complex methods. The average effect - typical use effectiveness so strongly advocated by Trussell, has some connection with his background in demography. But again, the typical use effectiveness can be solely on average of two totally different populations one using the method very effectivelly and another very uneffectivelly. In an extreme case none in the population would use the method with the effectiveness labelled as "typical use effectiveness". 4) I am not arguing against "use effectiveness" in general - I am only saying that we need more insight into the existing heterogeneity or if there is any. However, transcultural extrapolations on use effectiveness can be pretty misleading. Mikolajczyk Fehring, wrote: Sheila: The problem is that the simple systems of NFP are just as effective (to help couples avoid pregnancy) as the more complex systems. There needs to be a compelling reason to use more complex NFP systems. I believe there are for special cases, but if we wish to reach many couples -- acceptability, accessibility, accuracy, and simplicity are essential. Keep California Safe, Free, and Holy J. Fehring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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