Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I have an ongoing RLS case that has not responded to anything yet. We are doing BTG's and have done 3 rounds of UNDA's, various forms of Mg, This is here last report. Something wakes me up around 2-3 hours after I go to sleep, I'm not sure if I have had limb movements that wake me up or it's something else triggering it. I've read that many people with RLS also have periodic limb movement and it's kind of like sleep apnea in that it rouses you enough to breathe but not always enough to bring full consciousness so that can cause the daytime fatigue. For me, I wake up then I am almost immediately uncomfortable, the whole body, then I turn over, only to find I'm doing it again within a minute. Then I start wiggling one of my legs, usually my right one, and that isn't enough activity to make the leg(s) feel calm, so I end up getting up to pace the floor for a couple of minutes. The thigh, knee to hip is what feels like it wants to move, it's like an urge to go out running. The pacing usually helps calm the legs enough to go back to sleep fairly quickly, but some nights it's awake again and pacing in a hour, last night it didn't work and I got up about 10 minutes later to pace. Then I slept for a little, not sure how long, woke up with the same feelings, I didn't pace but laid on my back and bicycled my legs in the air for awhile (looks silly I imagine). Slept for awhile again and repeated that. It's exhausting. Sometimes the RLS happens in the late afternoon/early evening when I want to come home and relax for a bit before making dinner and I find I can't keep my legs still, I keep crossing/uncrossing them. Sometimes happens in the car when I'm a passenger, it's nasty if it happens on a plane where you're sot stuck you can't even move. This is her last program Oils NEW MOON - FULL MOON OR - DAY 1 - DAY 14 MENSES Pro Omega D Ð 2 daily Flax Seeds/Pumpkin Seeds Ð 2 Tablespoons daily - FULL MOON - NEW MOON OR DAY 15 - 28 GLA 240 - Black Current Oil Ð 2 daily Sunflower/Sesame Seeds Ð 2 tablespoons daily UNDA Ð 5 drops 3X daily 9 - Nervous System 233 - Venous Circulatory Insufficiency 243 - Hepatic Conditions Gemmotherapy - Sequoia + Ribes 50 drips of each BID in water Homeopathic Remedies Zincum Metalica 5 granules M W F Lachesis 5 granules T TH Sat Sundays, 10 minutes after the UNDAÕs Causticum 10 granules Ð 3 Sundays for 2 months Ignation 10 granules 1 Sunday for 2 months Phytogens Spasm-gen - Relax Spasms of Muscles & Nerves - 5 drps 2X daily Aroma Therapy Aroma 23 - Anxiety, Neurovegetative disorders - 1X daily Organotherapy Epiphysium - 15 drops before bed I could certainly use some help here. Forrest MA, MH, DC Los Gatos, CA 95030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 ,1. You could try UNDA 219 in there, next round. Maybe drop the 243.2. You could try topical magnesium gel to the legs, I have had several patients with IBS get good results with this.3. I have been using Spasm-gen with some success but maybe Calm-gen would work better? Everyone loves Calm-gen in my practice at least. And I take it too, it's great before bed. 4. I am also thinking of the single remedies--perhaps you aren't treating the right miasm? Although Dr. Gueniot gives Zinc (with Lachesis) as two best rxs for restless legs there are many other remedies which cover: Zinc is mostly tuberculinic and she may do better with some Medorrhinum periodically, like 200K every other week for 3 months. I like Aconite a lot and use it frequently, you have to dose them every night with 5CH. If she is psoric then try Aconite with Psorinum (which also has tremendous restlessness at night). Also, Causticum is good for RLS in the psoric person. If she's luetic the Aconite may still be a good choice and add in Hyoscamus which is another biggie for RLS. Check that one out. Also for the luetic, try good old Chamomile in low potency. I don't see this person as predominantly tuberculinic, if you do, then I don't have many ideas on that Good Luck. Keep us posted. GingerGinger Nash-Wolfe, ND21 Street, 2nd floorNew Haven, CT 06511 RLS CaseI have an ongoing RLS case that has not responded to anything yet. We are doing BTG's and have done 3 rounds of UNDA's, various forms of Mg, This is here last report. Something wakes me up around 2-3 hours after I go to sleep, I'm not sure if I have had limb movements that wake me up or it's something else triggering it. I've read that many people with RLS also have periodic limb movement and it's kind of like sleep apnea in that it rouses you enough to breathe but not always enough to bring full consciousness so that can cause the daytime fatigue. For me, I wake up then I am almost immediately uncomfortable, the whole body, then I turn over, only to find I'm doing it again within a minute. Then I start wiggling one of my legs, usually my right one, and that isn't enough activity to make the leg(s) feel calm, so I end up getting up to pace the floor for a couple of minutes. The thigh, knee to hip is what feels like it wants to move, it's like an urge to go out running. The pacing usually helps calm the legs enough to go back to sleep fairly quickly, but some nights it's awake again and pacing in a hour, last night it didn't work and I got up about 10 minutes later to pace. Then I slept for a little, not sure how long, woke up with the same feelings, I didn't pace but laid on my back and bicycled my legs in the air for awhile (looks silly I imagine). Slept for awhile again and repeated that. It's exhausting. Sometimes the RLS happens in the late afternoon/early evening when I want to come home and relax for a bit before making dinner and I find I can't keep my legs still, I keep crossing/uncrossing them. Sometimes happens in the car when I'm a passenger, it's nasty if it happens on a plane where you're sot stuck you can't even move. This is her last program Oils NEW MOON - FULL MOON OR - DAY 1 - DAY 14 MENSES Pro Omega D Ð 2 daily Flax Seeds/Pumpkin Seeds Ð 2 Tablespoons daily - FULL MOON - NEW MOON OR DAY 15 - 28 GLA 240 - Black Current Oil Ð 2 daily Sunflower/Sesame Seeds Ð 2 tablespoons daily UNDA Ð 5 drops 3X daily 9 - Nervous System 233 - Venous Circulatory Insufficiency 243 - Hepatic Conditions Gemmotherapy - Sequoia + Ribes 50 drips of each BID in water Homeopathic Remedies Zincum Metalica 5 granules M W F Lachesis 5 granules T TH Sat Sundays, 10 minutes after the UNDAÕs Causticum 10 granules Ð 3 Sundays for 2 months Ignation 10 granules 1 Sunday for 2 months Phytogens Spasm-gen - Relax Spasms of Muscles & Nerves - 5 drps 2X daily Aroma Therapy Aroma 23 - Anxiety, Neurovegetative disorders - 1X daily Organotherapy Epiphysium - 15 drops before bed I could certainly use some help here. Forrest MA, MH, DC Los Gatos, CA 95030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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