Re: Aha, the plot thickens!

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Sure, send me any good stuff that I may be able to pull out as ammo to convince DH on the homeschooling option! Thanks , you're awesome (as always!)

Sara

PS Has "Daisy" won out in your household for naming your future Jersey? Oh I hope so!!! ;-)

Re: Aha, the plot thickens!

Putting in a good word for home schooling, I heard a speaker recently say that Harvard and Pepperdyne were offering full scholarships to home schoolers. They know that they are getting a quality, very well educated child. You might let DH know that. I will try to get documented evidence of that, but it's definitely what the speaker said.Sara wrote:

Hey everyone,DH is against home schooling (at least for now..maybe in the summer I could talk son into doing a summertime pilot homeschool) and son refuses to bring cold (my!) lunches to school. Grr. I am really toying with idea of writing a book geared for kids on the horrors of pasteurized milk. Get Ron Schmid's permission to adapt his wonderful book (which I have yet to read, I'm sorry, Dr. Ron!). But then I might give the poor young readers (my son included) nightmares!!! Boy, I do feel stuck in a dilemma! Thanks in advance for all your wonderful help! Stuck Sara Minnesota Your quiet-lately moderator and fellow proud RawDairyer!PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Check out these links!Midvalleyvu Farms http://www.midvalleyvu.comThe Weston A. Price Foundation: http://www.westonaprice.orgThe Untold Story of Milk http://www.drrons.com/untoldstoryofmilk.htmlPlease visit our Raw Dairy files for a wealth of information:FILES: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Database: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/databaseRecipes: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/database?method=reportRows & tbl=1Contact List: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/database?method=reportRows & tbl=2Photos: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/lst

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Yes, exactly! Lots of pressure on him, whether in a public or private school. That's why I told him he can drink it if he wants. But he wants my approval, the poor guy! So sweet of him...in a few years he won't care what I think of his clothes or his hairstyle or whatever!

Sara

Re: Aha, the plot thickens!

Isn't it kinda hard on a 6 year old to have to defend your position on milk in a public place all by himself? As much as I am for raw milk, I'm not sure if I could do that to my dc. (I don't have to worry about that, however, because we homeschool.....)

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>>(today being second day at new school) but burst into tears today

(6 yr old in first grade) He knows that he can drink the school's

milk and thus appear to " fit in " and son refuses to

bring cold (my!) lunches to school. Grr.

Sara<<

I will not go into homeschooling (we homeschool).

Has your son always bought lunch?

I remember going to school and everyone wanting my lunch not the

stuff you could buy. Because meals brought from home were always

better.

Does he have friends at the new school? Do they buy lunch?

You could have him make his own lunch. Letting him add what ever he

wants (within reason). The other kids may begin to look at his lunch

as special and then he may feel better about bringing raw milk.

Sydnee

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Dear Dear Sara,

You do have a knack for asking tough quesions!

Boy, you're talking about a tough conflict. A mother decision. What

you do now will set precedent, for your son and your other kids (and

your husband). He could care less about the ultimate outcome; he's

just challenging, as he should. This is all about you. Should I

sneak it or flaunt it? He doesn't have the tools to decide, yet.

Do you believe that raw milk is good for your son? Do you have

the courage behind your conviction? There are so many things you

have to compromise on, so many delicate balances to juggle, but some

decisions you do not waffle on. It just depends on what you deeply

believe in. I'm further down the line than you are; my sons are

older. They don't smoke, they don't do drugs, they are good

responsible, likeable people. But they are compromised,

healthwise. Which would you choose?

I wonder what it would be like to provide a totally nutritious diet

to your kids? Is it nature, or nurture? Price would say nurture.

I dunno. There's a lot to say about that...

It's time to drive a stake in the ground about nutrition. Decide

what you can defend for the next 15 years. Be willing to live by

it. They will challenge it, constantly. Which fight do you want to

fight? Enzymes are good. You can probably bet on that.

=Blair

> Hey everyone,

> Welcome to all the newbies! Hope you like being with the

RawDairy

> folks..I think you'll like it here!

> Ok, the " oldsters " will remember this...I posted not too long

ago

> asking for help and input on tricks to get my son to drink the

(raw)

[Guest guest]

Sara,

actually, that has been my first guess. Kids want to be like the

others. And now, with changing the school, he's even more in a

situation that makes him stand out.

I think it would be easiest for him to do what the others do and when

he found friends and got used to the new school, you can try again.

For now, give him small items, not the whole lunch, just something

additional (like an apple) that he likes and that is healthy.

Of course, this is not what you want to do and you know it's not the

healthiest choice and so do I, but being different and having no

friends is going to make him very unhappy and eventually, he will

trace this back to your food choices and hate you and your food!

Besides, he gets good food and real milk at home, where he eats 2 out

of 3 meals plus the weekends.

In kindergarden, we got apple juice and cocao and I was the only kid

whose parents didn't allow those. Someone had to warm the cocoa for me

and I was the only kid to drink only warm cocoa. Besides of sticking

out, warm cocoa isn't going to quench your thirst like cold apple

juice will. Everyone else had the choice what he/she wanted to drink,

but me! My parents also tried different approaches on diet. Once, they

were into no sugar. Well, you can tell your kid to avoid sugar, and I

remember someone had those cool sparkling pieces that turn into gum in

your mouth and wanted to share them with me and I said I couldn't!

Well, that was obvious, even to a kindergarden child that gum contains

sugar, as it is sweet, but lots of foods contain sugar and you can't

guess it as easily. But you can imagine how hard that was for me, that

I couldn't eat them, I still remember now that I am 24! Gum was very

special, it was food you could play with and it was something we

rarely had at home. Plus the gum that sparkles first was especially

cool, of course...

Well, and " but everyone else does " is a very common excuse for most

stuff. It's the excuse parents use to make their kids do something but

they also hate it when kids use this to be allowed what someone else

was allowed to do by their parents.

So, please be careful. It very much depends on how strong he is and

how the other kids react. He can ignore some but he can't be all on

his own, he needs friends.

Get to know his friends mothers maybe they always wanted to send

some food to school but didn't. So, when there are 2 friends bringing

some food to school with them, they are alot stronger! And maybe soon,

it's going to be very normal to bring your food (or at least some

small item)...

CU Anja

> Hey everyone,

> Welcome to all the newbies! Hope you like being with the RawDairy

> folks..I think you'll like it here!

> Ok, the " oldsters " will remember this...I posted not too long ago

> asking for help and input on tricks to get my son to drink the (raw)

> milk I sent to school with him. He had been drinking it, then all of

> a sudden stopped, claiming he just didn't like the taste anymore.

> What really transpired was that people kept " picking on " him to drink

> the school's milk. Although I had already talked with the food

> program director about it when school started for the year. My guess

> is that the various adults staffing the cafeteria would

> keep " reminding " him to get some milk in the misguided conception

> he " forgot. " Aha!!!! That is why he stopped, not because he didn't

> like the taste of warmed milk or anything!

> In a decision not related to that, he has changed schools. To make

> a very long story short, he is now at a public school, no longer at

> the parochial school. He has made the adjustment remarkably well,

> (today being second day at new school) but burst into tears today (6

> yr old in first grade) when I suggested he keep bringing milk to

> school for lunch. He feels somewhat different already, and now

> bringing milk from home is going to make him stick out like a sore

> thumb. Argh! We did have a discussion about it, and he knows that I

> consider pasteurized hormone-laden milk poison. He knows that he can

> drink the school's milk and thus appear to " fit in " but knows I do

> not approve of it. He's still at that sweet age where my approval

> means a lot to him.

> Argh! I just don't know what to do! DH and I have already

> suggested that he can drink water instead, can say he's allergic to

> milk, give his school milk away to someone (or even throw it out

> where it really does belong!) but no, no, no...

> I realize there is a few months left to the school year and so I

> can " let it go. " I am going to track down the director of the food

> program in the school district. But I am not going to even try to

> change the policy of milk, what with the public school lunch program

> having Federal oversight. But I will definitely check into other

> aspects of the food program (serve whole wheat bread as option in

> addition to white bread, shudder!), don't serve irradiated beef.

> Just in case people think of these: I already have...DH is against

> home schooling (at least for now..maybe in the summer I could talk

> son into doing a summertime pilot homeschool) and son refuses to

> bring cold (my!) lunches to school. Grr.

> I am really toying with idea of writing a book geared for kids on

> the horrors of pasteurized milk. Get Ron Schmid's permission to

> adapt his wonderful book (which I have yet to read, I'm sorry, Dr.

> Ron!). But then I might give the poor young readers (my son

> included) nightmares!!!

> Boy, I do feel stuck in a dilemma! Thanks in advance for all your

> wonderful help!

> Stuck Sara

> Minnesota

> Your quiet-lately moderator and fellow proud RawDairyer!