Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 This may sound really obvious, but it wasn't stated so I'll ask. Have they had him evaluated medically to see if there are any problems that way? They may also want to check into some of the biomedical information , there are many with tons of information that may be helpful. Best of luck, ----Original Message Follows---- From: " E. Amy Sanner " <enedeliasanner@...> autismaba <autismaba >, < > Subject: [ ] potty training... Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Hello! I recently began working with a little boy, 5 yrs. old, with an autism dx. 2 years ago, his family began (with great effort) working on potty training him. They have had at least three consultants over this time, as well. Over the last couple of years, they have had varying success with voiding, not any with BM's. Currently he wears Pull-ups to school and big-boy pants at home. His parents have taken potty data the entire time, but have not included a food/drink diary with it. The data is all over the place. There is no rhyme or reason to when he goes successfully (in the potty) or when he has accidents. At home and school he is taken to the bathroom about every hour but he still has accidents (some days more than others). Sometimes he urinates every half hour, other times he goes every two hours... just no way of knowing on any given day. I've been told that he doesn't seem to mind when he is wet, and that they do reinforce (wild party, which he loves!... doesn't actually seem like a " reinforcer " by definition) when he goes successfully. His family really wants him potty trained. They have expressed a willingness to " try anything " . They have tried many methods.... Any ideas? Thanks, Amy p.s. For now, I have asked them to record when and how much he is eating and drinking. I've also asked them to try to keep food and drinks on a " schedule " . E. Amy Sanner, M.A., BCBA enedeliasanner@... http://behavioralconsultant.5u.com --------------------------------- Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I don't chime in very often these days -- living a life up to my armpits in alligators is fairly time consuming -- ;>) But, I wanted to offer some reassurances on this subject. Our daughter did not get out of pullups until she was 5-1/2. (She had slept dry through the night from the time she was two, so she at least had her night time chemicals in place.) She was highly motivated, as we had her in dancing classes and she loved it but some of the other little girls made fun of her. She tried like crazy to " go on command " and not have any accidents. She just didn't have the fine motor control to succeed at that age. Finally, at 5-1/2, she was successful. She had been going making it through most of the day without accidents for about a month before she decided she was ready for big girl underwear. She does still occasionally have accidents, as it is very difficult for her to control two motor sets at the same time. So, we have a basic rule -- bathroom first, then jumping (or flips, or dancing, or whatever). She knows she has trouble with this, so is fairly compliant. Every once in a while, she will argue that she doesn't need to go, but we just remind her how easy it is to have an accident when she is jumping around and how she has to stop jumping around to go get cleaned up and changed. She usually responds with one of her trademark phrases, " Oh, yeah. Wight! " and then off she goes. She was able to control her bowel movements much earlier -- just a few months after she turned four -- than her urination. The only times she had difficulties with BMs were when she was sick or had had too much fiber. Several doctors I consulted with told me that, while they didn't know of any direct research in the area, anecdotally they recognized a connection between fine motor control and toileting. Sure enough, when Ellyn could finally control her hands well enough to write legible letters, she began to be able to control her bladder. Hang in there. Carol C (in OK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Can I just say " Ditto " ? I didn't have exactly the same experience, but my son was nearly 4 and he just couldn't get it. Then when he did get it, it was hard - that's the piece that so many of us have to come to terms with here: life is HARD for our kids - really hard. It's hard for them to talk, jump, learn new things, etc. Sometimes they need an extra push to learn something new. Reward the good BIG TIME and IMMEDIATELY. On the other hand, when I recognized that my son knew when he had to go but was being lazy, he got into trouble for not trying. (I'm talking about getting up out of the chair walking backwards to the door so you don't have to take your eyes off the TV and then peeing on the floor because you waited too long. I'm not a monster.) It just takes them longer so you have to be aware and recognize WHEN they're ready and then do everything you can to encourage and help them. It takes our kids much more practice than other kids - and (I always go back to the piano lessons reference) we wouldn't pay for piano lessons and expect ANY child to learn without adequate practice outside of their weekly lessons, right? Good luck! Marina R > > I don't chime in very often these days -- living a life up to my armpits in > alligators is fairly time consuming -- ;>) > But, I wanted to offer some reassurances on this subject. Our daughter did > not get out of pullups until she was 5-1/2. (She had slept dry through the > night from the time she was two, so she at least had her night time chemicals in > place.) She was highly motivated, as we had her in dancing classes and she > loved it but some of the other little girls made fun of her. She tried like > crazy to " go on command " and not have any accidents. She just didn't have the > fine motor control to succeed at that age. Finally, at 5-1/2, she was > successful. She had been going making it through most of the day without accidents for > about a month before she decided she was ready for big girl underwear. > She does still occasionally have accidents, as it is very difficult for her > to control two motor sets at the same time. So, we have a basic rule -- > bathroom first, then jumping (or flips, or dancing, or whatever). She knows she has > trouble with this, so is fairly compliant. Every once in a while, she will > argue that she doesn't need to go, but we just remind her how easy it is to > have an accident when she is jumping around and how she has to stop jumping > around to go get cleaned up and changed. She usually responds with one of her > trademark phrases, " Oh, yeah. Wight! " and then off she goes. > She was able to control her bowel movements much earlier -- just a few months > after she turned four -- than her urination. The only times she had > difficulties with BMs were when she was sick or had had too much fiber. > Several doctors I consulted with told me that, while they didn't know of any > direct research in the area, anecdotally they recognized a connection between > fine motor control and toileting. Sure enough, when Ellyn could > finally control her hands well enough to write legible letters, she began to be able > to control her bladder. > Hang in there. > Carol C > (in OK) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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