The Ultimate

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

I am a new member of the group. After looking through the archives, I

found a number of people inquiring about " The Ultimate " Rife machine,

but no one who had experience with it. At this point, has anyone in the

group tried it? My dentist is recommending this relatively affordable

model to prevent jaw cavitations.

Thanks,

Arlene

[Guest guest]

I have not been active on the list much for some time.

I have a Ultimate and am extremely happy with it. What

kind of info was you looking for? Let me know..

Thx

DAK

--- Arlene wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I am a new member of the group. After looking

> through the archives, I

> found a number of people inquiring about " The

> Ultimate " Rife machine,

> but no one who had experience with it. At this

> point, has anyone in the

> group tried it? My dentist is recommending this

> relatively affordable

> model to prevent jaw cavitations.

>

> Thanks,

> Arlene

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Arlene: I've had The Ultimate for a couple of months now and used it

almost every day, I've posted some on this list about it. If you need

information other than what the website provides just ask.

Klaus

<< I have not been active on the list much for some time.

I have a Ultimate and am extremely happy with it. What

kind of info was you looking for? Let me know..

Thx

DAK

--- Arlene wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I am a new member of the group. After looking

> through the archives, I

> found a number of people inquiring about " The

> Ultimate " Rife machine,

> but no one who had experience with it. At this

> point, has anyone in the

> group tried it? My dentist is recommending this

> relatively affordable

> model to prevent jaw cavitations.

>

> Thanks,

> Arlene >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Duane and Klaus,

Thanks for addressing my prior question regarding the Ultimate Rife

machine. At the time I first posted it, I was debating whether or not to

buy one. Since then, I have bought one but have used it only

sporadically as I was getting headaches from the treatments. After input

from several people on another list, I decreased the frequency of

treatments and the headaches subsided.

At this point, I'm trying to use the machine twice a week for dental

pain. I connect one pad to the hand jack and one to the foot jack, then

wearing latex gloves, place the pads on either side of my face and run

the dental foci auto channel. I can't tell yet if it's helping anything.

The only obvious effect so far is that I get a tingling sensation all

over my body for about 10 minutes after the treatments. Truthfully, I'm

feeling a little apprehensive about the Rife technology in general,

having only anecdotal reports of its efficacy and safety through lists

like this.

Any further recommendations would be welcome.

Thanks,

Arlene

[Guest guest]

I'm looking seriously at buying the " Ultimate " . It seems to have a

number of special features such as the ability to run up to 8

frequencies concurrently. Also has an optional RF board that

outputs a 2.4Mhz carrier signal for " deeper? " penetration of

frequencies. The people who sell the Ultimate indicate that this

was the carrier frequency Rife/Crane settled on in the 50s when

they were producing pad devices. But I'm pretty new at

this...does this jive with what you/others know, & make sense to

anyone else?

Al

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I am a new member of the group. After looking

> > through the archives, I

> > found a number of people inquiring about " The

> > Ultimate " Rife machine,

> > but no one who had experience with it. At this

> > point, has anyone in the

> > group tried it? My dentist is recommending this

> > relatively affordable

> > model to prevent jaw cavitations.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Arlene >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlene:

I have had a Rife type machine for about 6 years now.

In addition to the Ultimate I also have a Auto-Pulse.

The Ultimate in my opinion is far superior.

I have found that each individual has different needs

and this has to be researched on ones own timetable.

In many cases, symptoms can come from one or multiple

parasites,toxins,pathogens,etc,.

I initally had a severe problem with chest pains

around my heart. They would come sporatically, often

doubling me up to the point of passing out. I found

out from a Doctor that also uses the rife methods (not

in his practice) that I had sakie. Needless to say

after running frequencies for approx 2 months on a

once a day timeframe it was cured. I have never had it

back in over 5 years.

I have found that if I was having trouble with

secondary side effects, it normally was due to not

running Parasites and or Toxins long enough before

treating what ailed me.

I also found that I needed to look at other conditions

and run some of those fequencies to aide in the cure

of my ailment. Anything that is associated with the

condition that you are trying to cure should be tried.

Example: Bronchitis, I also ran Asthma,Pneumonia,

etc,. This is how I removed 30 years of chronic sinus

problems along with inflamation of the lungs.

Sad that this treatment has not been researched like

other Meds. But, once you own a machine there is no

payments going to the Med society if you cure your

problem.

I am now treating a very good friend of mine for

Psoriasis. As you probably know if we can cure this,

most other things are easier. Keep in touch.

Thx

Duane

--- Arlene wrote:

> Dear Duane and Klaus,

>

> Thanks for addressing my prior question regarding

> the Ultimate Rife

> machine. At the time I first posted it, I was

> debating whether or not to

> buy one. Since then, I have bought one but have used

> it only

> sporadically as I was getting headaches from the

> treatments. After input

> from several people on another list, I decreased the

> frequency of

> treatments and the headaches subsided.

>

> At this point, I'm trying to use the machine twice a

> week for dental

> pain. I connect one pad to the hand jack and one to

> the foot jack, then

> wearing latex gloves, place the pads on either side

> of my face and run

> the dental foci auto channel. I can't tell yet if

> it's helping anything.

> The only obvious effect so far is that I get a

> tingling sensation all

> over my body for about 10 minutes after the

> treatments. Truthfully, I'm

> feeling a little apprehensive about the Rife

> technology in general,

> having only anecdotal reports of its efficacy and

> safety through lists

> like this.

>

> Any further recommendations would be welcome.

>

> Thanks,

> Arlene

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm, I wouldn't know, but you may also want to look at plasma devices (I

heard that they penetrate deeper, assuming that the ultimate is a pad

device).

[Guest guest]

>Truthfully, I'm

>feeling a little apprehensive about the Rife technology in general,

>having only anecdotal reports of its efficacy and safety through lists

>

>like this.

Unfortunately this is about the only type of research available to us all, on

this type of technology. Just about anything " alternate " or Natural, is

going to be this way. All we can do is to try to support each other, and

give each other as much information as we have. And try to keep this

information as close to first party as possible. As Jeff Garff the builder

of the Ultimate told me, He had Hepetitis C and with just one treatment it

went away never to return. He alos relates a story about his father Ron, who

is also in this endevor to get the Ultimate to the public. Ron had breast

cancer, and did nothing but a slight change in his diet, ( no where near what

the cancer diets suggest, just reduced a bit, the amount of animale products

he used, that was about it) and he used the Ulimate a few times a week, I

think (if I remember right) it took 3 or 4 months but it went away, and has

not returned. I know that everytime, I treat the tumor in my hand, it gets

softer, ( according to Dr. Rifes notes this is the indication he always saw

in his patients,) that the treatments were working.

I used a PC rife before I bought my Ultimate. It's a small box that you hook

to the speaker jack of your computer, you load a program that will generate

the frequencies and feed them to this box to be converted to ttl square wave.

With this freq. generator they had a number of frequencies. I had a tooth

that should have had a root canal, it was hurting quite badly, I ran these

freqs. on it and before I was done the pain was gone and stayed away for a

couple of weeks. I thought I'd share these freqs. with you it soulds like

they may be of use, at this time. So here they are; 3000,95,190,47.5,2720

They are included in the set in the ultimate, but what I found is that this

shorter group ran at 5 minutes each, worked where the longer group in the

ultimate didn't. Hope this helps.

Klaus

[Guest guest]

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>

>

>

> >Truthfully, I'm

> >feeling a little apprehensive about the Rife technology in general,

> >having only anecdotal reports of its efficacy and safety through lists

> >

> >like this.

> Unfortunately this is about the only type of research available to us all,

on

> this type of technology. Just about anything " alternate " or Natural, is

> going to be this way.

Hi,

I disagree, there are clinical studies on the use of Rife technology. You

will find one on my web site (www.rife.de) and another study for the

treatment of Rife for treating cancer was carried out last year in a German

university hospital. Other clinical studies are currently underway.

Although such studies cannot take place in the USA, it does not mean there

are none. What studies have been done with the " Ultimate " . Has it got

medical approval anywhere? Other companies have obtained approval in Europe,

Australia, etc.

Regards

List moderator.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ; That's nice to know that there are studies being done.

Klaus

>>

>>

>>

>> >Truthfully, I'm

>> >feeling a little apprehensive about the Rife technology in general,

>> >having only anecdotal reports of its efficacy and safety through lists

>> >

>> >like this.

>> Unfortunately this is about the only type of research available to us

>all,

>on

>> this type of technology. Just about anything " alternate " or Natural,

>is

>> going to be this way.

>

>

>Hi,

>I disagree, there are clinical studies on the use of Rife technology. You

>will find one on my web site (www.rife.de) and another study for the

>treatment of Rife for treating cancer was carried out last year in a German

>university hospital. Other clinical studies are currently underway.

>

>Although such studies cannot take place in the USA, it does not mean there

>are none. What studies have been done with the " Ultimate " . Has it got

>medical approval anywhere? Other companies have obtained approval in Europe,

>Australia, etc.

>

>Regards

>

>

>List moderator.

[Guest guest]

I would say that you wuld have to talk to Jeff about this, or someone that

has a bit more technical knowledge on th Ultimate. All I can tell you is

that, when i asked jeff about running 8 freqs. at once he said you can hook

up an ocilliscope and see each frequency running totally independant of the

others, at the same power. If there is resonance from the frequencies it

would still be there. So If you're out there Jeff maybe you would like to

field this one?

As for the PC rife #3 here's one of the manufacturers

http://www.bioelectric.ws/eng/index.html Jaguar enterprises is no-longer

allowed to sell these (FDA, shut them down saying this technology was not

proven and made them give back money for anyone that wanted it ) they were

another manufacturer. As for the other information you want, I don't know, i

tried measuring but it fluctuates so much I don't know, It has 4 9 volt

batteries in it so it could only put out 36 volts at best. I paid $300 for

it with shipping, and an additional $30 for the rifegen computer frequency

generator program. I was always a bit sceptical about this system because

the only thing I have to run it on is (that works) is my g3 powerbook,

running vertual pc. My PC is to new, this system will not work through a

sound card. it has to have an old computer with a built in speaker on the

mother board.

>One of the claims of " The Ultimate " is that it can run 8 frequencies

>at once, cutting down your session time.

>

>If it is resonance that is destroying the pathogens

>(and I think it is, though Aubrey disagrees), then running

>8 frequencies at once means that each of those 8 frequencies

>has only 1/8th of the power going into it... and less power

>at each frequency might result in not enough power to kill

>the associated pathogens.

>

>

>> I used a PC rife before I bought my Ultimate. It's a small box

>> that you hook to the speaker jack of your computer, you load a

>> program that will generate the frequencies and feed them to this

>> box to be converted to ttl square wave.

>

>Details on the PC rife/waveshaper?

>Price/manufacturor/output voltage range, etc.etc.etc?

>

>> They are included in the set in the ultimate, but what I found

>> is that this shorter group ran at 5 minutes each, worked where

>> the longer group in the ultimate didn't. Hope this helps.

>

>If my theory is right, then running 8 frequencies at once

>means that there will be less power at each individual frequency

>with the Ultimate, sometimes resulting in not enough power

>for resonance to kill off the associated pathogen.

>Your experience falls in line with my theory.

[Guest guest]

One of the claims of " The Ultimate " is that it can run 8 frequencies

at once, cutting down your session time.

If it is resonance that is destroying the pathogens

(and I think it is, though Aubrey disagrees), then running

8 frequencies at once means that each of those 8 frequencies

has only 1/8th of the power going into it... and less power

at each frequency might result in not enough power to kill

the associated pathogens.

> I used a PC rife before I bought my Ultimate. It's a small box

> that you hook to the speaker jack of your computer, you load a

> program that will generate the frequencies and feed them to this

> box to be converted to ttl square wave.

Details on the PC rife/waveshaper?

Price/manufacturor/output voltage range, etc.etc.etc?

> They are included in the set in the ultimate, but what I found

> is that this shorter group ran at 5 minutes each, worked where

> the longer group in the ultimate didn't. Hope this helps.

If my theory is right, then running 8 frequencies at once

means that there will be less power at each individual frequency

with the Ultimate, sometimes resulting in not enough power

for resonance to kill off the associated pathogen.

Your experience falls in line with my theory.