Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 help, please help i really want to get off this list please someone, mail me DIRECTLY at loriterry@... to tell me how to get off this list, with instructons, i am not too cool on computers i am going around in circles and cannot get off i keep getting the emails thanks lori Re: Treatment Rating Site If you go to https://www.endfatigue.com/home.nsf click on your input then see results Dr Teitlebaum has put together a pretty good list of treatments. You can vote all you want and don't have to register. Luke > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 ' ' wrote: ==== - This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - There are 25 messages in this issue. - - Topics in this digest: - - 1. Re: Mayo's new test - From: Dale <dalear@...> - 2. Arsenic in water - ...' > Take a look to the attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Please remove me from your list. I have found the PSC list I'd been looking for. Thank you. Peggy McGovern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Hi again , , and Debb- First to Debb- I'd not put off the mammo, and seek a second opinion from another breast surgeon after that, if possible. Don't wait, for your own peace of mind and health. Best of luck! , reading what you wrote about the doctor treating you with all the IVs and expensive supplements- when I read what some of his statements to you were, I saw red flags. Especially when he mentioned you should go to your parents for help or use a credit card. I think you could cut down on what you take, certainly if you can't afford all of it. If this guy is the only one available to you to get the AP right now, certainly continue with that. You don't have to buy everything he is trying to sell you. I worry because there are far too many people out there who are trying to make tons of money from scaring people about their health- simply BECAUSE our health is the most valuable thing to us. Knowledge is power, and it's tough for us to make informed choices doctors give us without knowing all we can about those choices. So, keep asking questions, and keep learning, bit by bit. I know you'll get other good suggestions from the group here. Take care- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 >>>What are the signs of too many B vitamins? > My son's MD has what seems to be megadoses prescribed. <<< For Sammy, he was running around laughing and giggling...totally hyper. Even my daughter asked 'what's wrong with Sammy. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Sherry-NJ/NY visit Hi, I spoke to you a while ago about getting together for a visit. That week will be fine for me anytime. My older son Adam nearly 9 will be off from school that week. So please contact me off list, If you want to get together. My cell phone number is 201-741-4035. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 > > Evy: “I feeled evil sp…evil monsters in my brain.” > > Me: “You felt..” > > Evy: “But God was in my heart.” > > Me: “Oh, really?” > > Evy: “God was in my heart to destroy them.” > > Me: “And so…And so who won?” > Evy: “God.” > > Me: “God one? Well that’s great.” > > Evy: “Cause He’s bigger than ever.” > > Mom: “You’re right.” > t- i tell you- that just takes my breath away. It's so insightful. Did you teach him about God? not to get in some big religious discussion, but i'm curious. My son isn't even close to understanding God, i can't imagine. thanks for typing it out. - http://www.autismfair.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 In a message dated 3/18/05 7:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:12:16 -0800 (PST) > From: Grace <foxyfoxgrace@...> > Subject: Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 MJH, Yeah, I thought that it probably is easier said than done!! Grace foxhillers@... wrote: In a message dated 3/18/05 7:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:12:16 -0800 (PST) > From: Grace <foxyfoxgrace@...> > Subject: Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Amino acids detoxify heavy metals out of the system the fastest, you can take brewer's yeast or an amino complex. foxhillers@... wrote:In a message dated 3/18/05 7:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:12:16 -0800 (PST) > From: Grace <foxyfoxgrace@...> > Subject: Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Alyson, Thank you for your help! Grace Alyson Torsone <earthenalyson@...> wrote: Amino acids detoxify heavy metals out of the system the fastest, you can take brewer's yeast or an amino complex. foxhillers@... wrote:In a message dated 3/18/05 7:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:12:16 -0800 (PST) > From: Grace <foxyfoxgrace@...> > Subject: Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Amino acids do not detoxify heavy metals out of the system. They help with detoxification but are not chelators of mercury, cadmium, arsenic, aluminum or any of the others. Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Mark, actually amino acids DO detoxify mercury, among other harmful metals out of the system. Just read " The Ultimate Healing System " by Dr. Lepore. If you look in the chapter of amino acids, it talks about L-cystine with L-Glutathione taken to detoxify high levels of mercury. I am not a doctor, but he is. There are also a couple of products that I carry that are heavy metal cleanses that the main ingredient is L-cystine with L-glutathione. I think it is better to take the brewers yeast because your body will recognize it more as a food source and assimilate it much easier than a capsule. It's actually a great book, check it out. -Alyson Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote: Amino acids do not detoxify heavy metals out of the system. They help with detoxification but are not chelators of mercury, cadmium, arsenic, aluminum or any of the others. Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Actually Alyson they do not despite what Dr. Lepore says. I am considered somewhat of an expert in the field and lecture doctors on the subject. Amino acids allow the body to detoxify more efficiently but do not chelate heavy metals. This is a law of chemistry which cannot be overcome. This issue has come up on other newsgroups like and experts in the field concur. While the sulfur in cysteine (not L-cystine) will help with detoxifying mercury (ApolipoproteinE gene allele pairings of cysteine/cysteine are an example) they are not as effective as chelators such as DMSA or DMPS. I wish aminos could do that as my wife's company sells an amino acid complex and if I touted it as such I could sell more product, but then I would be deceptive and that is not right. And just because something is natural like brewer's yeast does not make it " more recognizable " . This is a nutritional falacy. Yes, it is best to get our nutrients from food sources as they are more complete but brewers yeast in particular may cause a lot of problems for sensitive individuals, especially those who have yeast issues. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Everyone has their own opinion, and yes, brewyers yeast is not for everyone, especially those with celiac. Peanuts may not be for everyone. And I have also lectured doctors in the oncology field, but that does not make me einstein. I know a couple of heavy metal detoxes that contain high amounts of Aminos especially NAC (which is the cystine) and glutathione. One company that has a great heavy metal cleanse is Renew Life. So I guess Dr. Lepore is not the only person to figure this out. I would consider your comment, and read the book. Then you can lecture about that. Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:Actually Alyson they do not despite what Dr. Lepore says. I am considered somewhat of an expert in the field and lecture doctors on the subject. Amino acids allow the body to detoxify more efficiently but do not chelate heavy metals. This is a law of chemistry which cannot be overcome. This issue has come up on other newsgroups like and experts in the field concur. While the sulfur in cysteine (not L-cystine) will help with detoxifying mercury (ApolipoproteinE gene allele pairings of cysteine/cysteine are an example) they are not as effective as chelators such as DMSA or DMPS. I wish aminos could do that as my wife's company sells an amino acid complex and if I touted it as such I could sell more product, but then I would be deceptive and that is not right. And just because something is natural like brewer's yeast does not make it " more recognizable " . This is a nutritional falacy. Yes, it is best to get our nutrients from food sources as they are more complete but brewers yeast in particular may cause a lot of problems for sensitive individuals, especially those who have yeast issues. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 just to note, selenium also aids in the detoxification of heavy metals, just thought I would add that. Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:Actually Alyson they do not despite what Dr. Lepore says. I am considered somewhat of an expert in the field and lecture doctors on the subject. Amino acids allow the body to detoxify more efficiently but do not chelate heavy metals. This is a law of chemistry which cannot be overcome. This issue has come up on other newsgroups like and experts in the field concur. While the sulfur in cysteine (not L-cystine) will help with detoxifying mercury (ApolipoproteinE gene allele pairings of cysteine/cysteine are an example) they are not as effective as chelators such as DMSA or DMPS. I wish aminos could do that as my wife's company sells an amino acid complex and if I touted it as such I could sell more product, but then I would be deceptive and that is not right. And just because something is natural like brewer's yeast does not make it " more recognizable " . This is a nutritional falacy. Yes, it is best to get our nutrients from food sources as they are more complete but brewers yeast in particular may cause a lot of problems for sensitive individuals, especially those who have yeast issues. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 This is starting to sound like bickering. I think we get so caught up in the latest studies and physical aspects that we forget all the other components that make up the individual. Take chelation therapy for example, one would only know if it actually chelated toxins if they measured the amount of metals in the bloodstream before and after. I doubt most doctors order this step. Which leads me to believe that it’s success is partly d/t the patients belief system or some might refer to it as the placebo effect. The medical world looks down on the placebo effect, but in fact it’s a very valuable component of the human. Why is it that a handful of cancer patients live years beyond expectations or are suddenly cured by believing a sugar pill to be the miracle drug? Well, the very powerful placebo for some of us might be the amino acids, oils, diets, etc. Just because it can’t be proven scientifically doesn’t mean it should be dismissed. So, amino acids allow “detoxification” but don’t “chelate”. (It’s not a play on words) Either way amino acids and or Chlorella (www.mercola.com/chlorella/index.htm) are not going to do the body any harm. However, we don’t know all the effects of chelation therapy by IV. Introducing the body to a substance through IV is not a normal process. For example, with vaccinations or chelation therapy, we bypass the first two lines of defense. Physical barriers such as skin or mucous are the first line of defense, whereas T cells in the blood are the 3rd or 4th line of defense. Therefore, taking an amino acid or other form of detoxifier allows the body to analyze it and chose whether or not to accept it as beneficial. When you skip the first few lines of defense your body cannot do its job completely, whether that’s discarding the substance introduced or boosting the immune system. You made it a point to say, “I am considered somewhat of an expert in the field and lecture doctors on the subject.” So what. Some of the dumbest people I know are Mds and the smartest are just self-educators. We should never apologize or think more or less of ourselves because of our degrees. If you are lecturing doctors in this same manner, it’s no wonder they don’t believe us when we tell them that oils, vitamins, diets, etc. decrease seizures. It’s not in the med books and hasn’t been proven, so it can’t be true. I’m not trying to be rude. I see that you’re just referring to what you know as scientific truths but don’t forget that we’re humans, and if allowed can use our other components to aid in the healing process. It saddens me to think that Alyson or Zoe might have been willing to try the brewers yeast or amino acids but now the possibility of assistance in detoxifying or a placebo effect cure is unlikely to occur. I just feel that if you know something to be harmful to the body, like arsenic then share the concern, if not harmful then let them try it. It’s how we discover new things. Be Well, Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:Actually Alyson they do not despite what Dr. Lepore says. I am considered somewhat of an expert in the field and lecture doctors on the subject. Amino acids allow the body to detoxify more efficiently but do not chelate heavy metals. This is a law of chemistry which cannot be overcome. This issue has come up on other newsgroups like and experts in the field concur. While the sulfur in cysteine (not L-cystine) will help with detoxifying mercury (ApolipoproteinE gene allele pairings of cysteine/cysteine are an example) they are not as effective as chelators such as DMSA or DMPS. I wish aminos could do that as my wife's company sells an amino acid complex and if I touted it as such I could sell more product, but then I would be deceptive and that is not right. And just because something is natural like brewer's yeast does not make it " more recognizable " . This is a nutritional falacy. Yes, it is best to get our nutrients from food sources as they are more complete but brewers yeast in particular may cause a lot of problems for sensitive individuals, especially those who have yeast issues. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Alyson, I'm not the only one with this opinion. Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD, Crayhon (author of the Carnitine Miracle) and I lectured this past weekend together in Berkeley, CA. Dietrich is considered a worlds expert on mercury detoxification and if you asked him he would say the same thing, amino acids are helpful, but they cannot do the job alone. Yes selenium is another element that will help with it as does NAC because of the sulfur component and because of its position as one of the components of the tripeptide glutathione but they are not in and of themselves chelators. This is not an opinion, it is chemistry. DMSA, DMPS and EDTA are chelators, amino acids are not. Read the book Toxicological Chemistry and Biochemistry by Dr. Stanley E. Manahan, or read the book Amalgam Illness by Dr. Andy Cutler. Both will show the chemistry behind these comments, not conjecture. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 , Amino acids can do harm if they are not used properly. Did you know that if you are benzene toxic, have a dysbiotic gut and take phenylalanine and tyrosine you can create phenol compounds which exponentially increase the carcinogenicity of benzene? It's a fact. I promote the use of amino acids as a means of detoxification but without claiming things that it cannot do. They cannot chelate, heavy metals. They can help the body detox somewhat but if there is a substantial load, they are not adequate by any stretch of the imagination. As for I.V. chelation, I am diametrically opposed to it because of clinical reports of adverse effects, especially in children. Oral DMSA, DMPS, or transdermal (TD-DMPS) when used in correct dosages is far safer and is truly effective. When it comes to heavy metals, believing they are being removed doesn't make it so. The doctors I lecture by the way do believe in nutrition, that is why they come to the lectures. I have even convinced a number of allopathic physicians to believe in it as well because when you present scientific fact, it can persuade a skeptic (not all as some are stubbornly stupid). I don't want to be argumentative but in order to change the perception of those skeptics we have to pound them with science and research. This is not easy and it does tend to trod upon belief systems but it has to happen. I don't want another child to go through what mine did because of ignorance. I used amino acid therapy to save her life so I am not opposed to it. I just want people to know what it can and cannot do based upon sound, reproducible and safe science. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal > toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Mark, I'll add the book to the pile, I'm glad to hear of your achievements, broaden your mind a little bit, there are people have OPINIONS besides scientists. People once thought the world was flat you know, this conversation sounds a lot like it. Yes, I am sure aminos and selenium isn't going to get rid of everything, you don't want to strip your whole system of all of it's minerals and metals (like copper). Sounds useless but it is not. Yes, while detoxifying heavy metals with aminos with other supplements won't do the whole trick. You may want to stop eat TUNA!! Every method is not fool proof.This conversation is just going to be a ridiculus ping pong game, for you are so set in your mind about chelators, and your lectures that you forget that science is about discovery. There are no limits. You have your sources, I have mine. Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:Alyson, I'm not the only one with this opinion. Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD, Crayhon (author of the Carnitine Miracle) and I lectured this past weekend together in Berkeley, CA. Dietrich is considered a worlds expert on mercury detoxification and if you asked him he would say the same thing, amino acids are helpful, but they cannot do the job alone. Yes selenium is another element that will help with it as does NAC because of the sulfur component and because of its position as one of the components of the tripeptide glutathione but they are not in and of themselves chelators. This is not an opinion, it is chemistry. DMSA, DMPS and EDTA are chelators, amino acids are not. Read the book Toxicological Chemistry and Biochemistry by Dr. Stanley E. Manahan, or read the book Amalgam Illness by Dr. Andy Cutler. Both will show the chemistry behind these comments, not conjecture. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Mark, I don’t believe the women that were asking about brewer’s yeast and amino acids have benzene poisoning. A dysbiotic gut, to a certain degree we probably all do. Of course if not used properly anything can do harm even water. But I thought I was communicating with people who were past that. Amino acids can do harm even when used correctly. If the liver doesn’t work properly, then it can’t ultimately break the amino acid into urea. Thus leaving behind ammonia or ammonium, which is also highly toxic. Nevertheless, I don’t think any of this mumbo is what’s occurring in the questions that have been raised. You have completely missed my point. I just don’t believe that most of the people that are worrying about heavy metals actually know that they have heavy metal poisoning. Or know the specific type of metal poisoning. If you’d like to be specific, you need different chelators for certain metals. Plus the levels of these metals before and after treatment are indicators that they were actually removed. That is if you’d like to know that they are being removed, however I doubt that self medicators are taking these steps (seeing as most MDs do not). Which leads me to believe that it’s not that detrimental, and part of the recovery would be a placebo. It’s a hot topic right now. If it weren’t for all the hype, people wouldn’t even consider that such substances could be poisoning their body, and for the majority of them they’d be fine. It makes me think about the 100’s of years that no one knew about heavy metal toxins. Granted a lot has changed, but I do wonder if this wasn’t an issue because they were unaware, or could it have been the main cause of unexplained deaths? I guess we’ll never know. This will be my last post on this subject because I believe the purpose of these groups are to share valuable information that will benefit the lives of others, and I feel we’ve lost that. Good luck and continued success with your daughter. Who knows maybe one day she’ll become a psychologist. Be Well, Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:, Amino acids can do harm if they are not used properly. Did you know that if you are benzene toxic, have a dysbiotic gut and take phenylalanine and tyrosine you can create phenol compounds which exponentially increase the carcinogenicity of benzene? It's a fact. I promote the use of amino acids as a means of detoxification but without claiming things that it cannot do. They cannot chelate, heavy metals. They can help the body detox somewhat but if there is a substantial load, they are not adequate by any stretch of the imagination. As for I.V. chelation, I am diametrically opposed to it because of clinical reports of adverse effects, especially in children. Oral DMSA, DMPS, or transdermal (TD-DMPS) when used in correct dosages is far safer and is truly effective. When it comes to heavy metals, believing they are being removed doesn't make it so. The doctors I lecture by the way do believe in nutrition, that is why they come to the lectures. I have even convinced a number of allopathic physicians to believe in it as well because when you present scientific fact, it can persuade a skeptic (not all as some are stubbornly stupid). I don't want to be argumentative but in order to change the perception of those skeptics we have to pound them with science and research. This is not easy and it does tend to trod upon belief systems but it has to happen. I don't want another child to go through what mine did because of ignorance. I used amino acid therapy to save her life so I am not opposed to it. I just want people to know what it can and cannot do based upon sound, reproducible and safe science. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal > toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 , I think we cleared things up a bit, thanks. Discussion is the key to discovery. If everyone agreed about everything, we'd still be in caves. Sometimes it gets heated, but that is ok, as long as it doesn't get personal. It think this debate is helping people make educated decisions for themselves and their children. Opposing views are healthy here and beneficial to everyone. As for the benzene, don't be so sure that people don't have it in their systems. This is the same point of view that US Biotek took when we started the idea of testing for it last August. They wondered if the test I wanted would be worth it as they doubted many people would show up for benzene, styrene, phthalates, xylene, toluene or trimethlybenzene. They have been shocked by the number of people showing up for metabolites of these toxins. My daughter Tasya is one of the ones who showed up slightly high for benzene. Hyperammonemia is a very serious issue for people taking amino acid complexes, especially those who are low in arginine, ornithine or alpha-ketoglutarate as well as those who are low in CO2. The placebo effect has gotten a lot of research because it can actually benefit people. The issue is whether or not amino acids chelate heavy metals. I am 100% behind amino acid therapy, I have said this numerous times. It is just whether we use amino acids properly and if we make claims that it removes heavy metals in any substantial amount. It helps people get better for the most part but it doesn't chelate metals. Mark Re: Zoe > > Zoe, > > Do you know of an natural way (supplements?) to remove heavy metal > toxins > out of the body without having to have all kinds of tests done? Thanks! > > Grace > > .. ..>>> Grace Be careful with the idea of chelating heavy metals out of the body. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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