Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 QUESTION: The computer I use for logging on to the Internet (and this group site) is NOT the one I use for training ie. the one with Bioexplorer (with hasp) loaded on to it. Can I still take the on-line course? nick mammano Van Deusen wrote: Later works for me, if 7am is too early for you Californians. I'd think you'd be getting up at 5 am these days to get a little cooler weather!Pete> > From: Diane Curriden <new2neuro>> Date: 2006/07/27 Thu AM 10:53:17 EDT> To: braintrainer > Subject: Re: on-line coherence training with pete> > That's awfully early for us California folks! I> suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later> time?> Diane Curriden> > --- drsharrie <drsharrie> wrote:> > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line> > coherence training > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is> > only $35 and you > > can sign up for the class at> > > > People can register and pay at> >> http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have> > to enter that > > address> > in their browser.> > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a> > few others that may > > be of interest to people.> > thanks,> > shar> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Nick, Yes you can. What we will be able to do is all see a single screen (mine or one of the other participants') and hear each other in discussion. If we have to demonstrate anything, you won't need BE open to see it. And I invite anyone who wishes to participate to send me in advance (at pvdadp@... ) your questions regarding coherence. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/27 Thu PM 12:23:14 EDT > To: braintrainer > Subject: Re: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > QUESTION: > > The computer I use for logging on to the Internet (and this group site) is NOT the one I use for training ie. the one with Bioexplorer (with hasp) loaded on to it. Can I still take the on-line course? > > nick mammano > > Van Deusen wrote: > Later works for me, if 7am is too early for you Californians. I'd think you'd be getting up at 5 am these days to get a little cooler weather! > > Pete > > > > > > > Date: 2006/07/27 Thu AM 10:53:17 EDT > > To: braintrainer > > Subject: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > > > That's awfully early for us California folks! I > > suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later > > time? > > Diane Curriden > > > > --- drsharrie wrote: > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line > > > coherence training > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is > > > only $35 and you > > > can sign up for the class at > > > > > > People can register and pay at > > > > > http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have > > > to enter that > > > address > > > in their browser. > > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a > > > few others that may > > > be of interest to people. > > > thanks, > > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh goody ... about 2.00 am Australian Eastern Standard Time. Should be a hoot! Mark Re: on-line coherence training with pete >> >> That's awfully early for us California folks! I >> suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later >> time? >> Diane Curriden >> >> --- drsharrie wrote: >> >> > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line >> > coherence training >> > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is >> > only $35 and you >> > can sign up for the class at >> > >> > People can register and pay at >> > >> http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. >> > >> > There is no link on the website, so they will have >> > to enter that >> > address >> > in their browser. >> > >> > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a >> > few others that may >> > be of interest to people. >> > thanks, >> > shar >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Mark, After a few trips to Oz, I'm a pro at timing contacts between there and here to be able to keep in touch with . If there is interest in online workshops down under, I'll be happy to set something up that works for you guys and doesn't make me lose too much of my desperately-needed beauty sleep. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/27 Thu PM 05:48:07 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: Re: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > Oh goody ... about 2.00 am Australian Eastern Standard Time. Should be a > hoot! > > Mark > > Re: on-line coherence training with pete > >> > >> That's awfully early for us California folks! I > >> suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later > >> time? > >> Diane Curriden > >> > >> --- drsharrie wrote: > >> > >> > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line > >> > coherence training > >> > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is > >> > only $35 and you > >> > can sign up for the class at > >> > > >> > People can register and pay at > >> > > >> http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > >> > > >> > There is no link on the website, so they will have > >> > to enter that > >> > address > >> > in their browser. > >> > > >> > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a > >> > few others that may > >> > be of interest to people. > >> > thanks, > >> > shar > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 " Beauty " sleep you say ... okay ... um ... yeah ... good for you ... stick with it bud! Mark Re: on-line coherence training with pete >> >> >> >> That's awfully early for us California folks! I >> >> suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later >> >> time? >> >> Diane Curriden >> >> >> >> --- drsharrie wrote: >> >> >> >> > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line >> >> > coherence training >> >> > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is >> >> > only $35 and you >> >> > can sign up for the class at >> >> > >> >> > People can register and pay at >> >> > >> >> http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. >> >> > >> >> > There is no link on the website, so they will have >> >> > to enter that >> >> > address >> >> > in their browser. >> >> > >> >> > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a >> >> > few others that may >> >> > be of interest to people. >> >> > thanks, >> >> > shar >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 That's why I said it was desperately needed... > > > Date: 2006/07/27 Thu PM 11:56:00 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: Re: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > " Beauty " sleep you say ... okay ... um ... yeah ... good for you ... stick > with it bud! > > Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Pete: I presume those of us not using BE are out of luck. Jim Re: on-line coherence training with pete> > > > That's awfully early for us California folks! I> > suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later> > time?> > Diane Curriden> > > > --- drsharrie <drsharrie> wrote:> > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line> > > coherence training > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is> > > only $35 and you > > > can sign up for the class at> > > > > > People can register and pay at> > >> > http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have> > > to enter that > > > address> > > in their browser.> > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a> > > few others that may > > > be of interest to people.> > > thanks,> > > shar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 , Coherence is coherence is coherence. Doesn't matter what system you are using. Infiniti software and BioExplorer read it the same. BrainMaster has an option (what they call, I think " research " coherence) of reading it the same way. Even questions about filters, etc. will work for at least Infiniti and BE. If you want to ask about specific protocols, I may or may not be able to help you with that. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/28 Fri PM 06:28:31 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: RE: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > Pete: > I presume those of us not using BE are out of luck. > Jim > > Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > > > > > That's awfully early for us California folks! I > > > suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later > > > time? > > > Diane Curriden > > > > > > --- drsharrie wrote: > > > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line > > > > coherence training > > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is > > > > only $35 and you > > > > can sign up for the class at > > > > > > > > People can register and pay at > > > > > > > http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have > > > > to enter that > > > > address > > > > in their browser. > > > > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a > > > > few others that may > > > > be of interest to people. > > > > thanks, > > > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 your right. Re: on-line coherence training with pete> > >>> > >> That's awfully early for us California folks! I> > >> suppose it's too late to change it to a slightly later> > >> time?> > >> Diane Curriden> > >>> > >> --- drsharrie <drsharrie> wrote:> > >>> > >> > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line> > >> > coherence training> > >> > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is> > >> > only $35 and you> > >> > can sign up for the class at> > >> >> > >> > People can register and pay at> > >> >> > >> http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > >> >> > >> > There is no link on the website, so they will have> > >> > to enter that> > >> > address> > >> > in their browser.> > >> >> > >> > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a> > >> > few others that may> > >> > be of interest to people.> > >> > thanks,> > >> > shar> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Jo, Good idea. I'll see if I can do that. It's a bit complicated, since there is the video, which we can record easily, and the conference call, which may not be that easy to get. I'll let you know how it goes in case you or others are interested. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/30 Sun AM 09:00:11 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > Is it possible to record the training to see it later? It is not a good > tem for me here. > > Jo Sato > > on-line coherence training with pete > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you > can sign up for the class at > > People can register and pay at > http://brain- > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > address > in their browser. > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may > be of interest to people. > thanks, > shar > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Pete, Did you ever identify the actual time for this workshop? 10:00 AM eastern works for me. Parks on-line coherence training with pete> > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you > can sign up for the class at> > People can register and pay at> http://brain-> <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.>> trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > address> in their browser.> > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may > be of interest to people.> thanks,> shar> > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 I wrote a couple days ago that we would go with the 11am time, which was the latest we could do for the person who actually set it up. That was to accomodate one of the West Coasters. So far the only one of them who has signed up is already on record that the 10am time works for her. If you can't do 11, let me know and, assuming 10 still works for all those who have signed up, we'll switch back. If 11 works, then it's easier to keep it there (that would be 10 your time). Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 12:31:52 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > Pete, > > Did you ever identify the actual time for this workshop? 10:00 AM eastern > works for me. > > Parks > > > on-line coherence training with pete > > > > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you > > can sign up for the class at > > > > People can register and pay at > > http://brain- > > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > > address > > in their browser. > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may > > be of interest to people. > > thanks, > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Nick, Right: 1. Go to the URL (all who have signed up for the training at brain-trainer.com should have received that via e-mail) on your computer; 2. Call the phone number and enter the code which will get you onto a conference call. 3. You'll see my computer screen on yours (though we'll be able to shift around to see the screens of participants if desired. You'll hear me and be able to ask questions or make comments, and everyone else's conversation will also be heard. I don't have a little video cam, because to date I haven't been able to think of a benefit to it. Seeing my smiling face during the presentation? Not worth that much and, at least in my experience, not a very good picture anyway from those things. That's it. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 11:02:23 EDT > To: braintrainer > Subject: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > For the record--either time is OK with me. > > Can you explain just EXACTLY what we are supposed to do at the start time? Simply log on the the URL and dial the phone number (and give the code number)?. What happens next? Do we have an image of you teaching or is it just text? How does the phone connection figure into all of this? Are we supposed to have a microphone? > > nick mammano > > > > Van Deusen wrote: > I wrote a couple days ago that we would go with the 11am time, which was the latest we could do for the person who actually set it up. That was to accomodate one of the West Coasters. So far the only one of them who has signed up is already on record that the 10am time works for her. If you can't do 11, let me know and, assuming 10 still works for all those who have signed up, we'll switch back. If 11 works, then it's easier to keep it there (that would be 10 your time). > > Pete > > > > > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 12:31:52 EDT > > To: <braintrainer > > > Subject: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > > > Pete, > > > > Did you ever identify the actual time for this workshop? 10:00 AM eastern > > works for me. > > > > Parks > > > > > > on-line coherence training with pete > > > > > > > > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you > > > can sign up for the class at > > > > > > People can register and pay at > > > http://brain- > > > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > > > address > > > in their browser. > > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may > > > be of interest to people. > > > thanks, > > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 As of 2pm on Monday, I need to close this particular meeting. Don't want to get too many people and have technical problems dog us. Anyone else who might be interested, e-mail me at pvdadp@... and we'll start a list for another one if there's enough interest. Thanks, Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 11:27:37 EDT > To: braintrainer > Subject: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > either time if fine for me although a bit easier at 10am. > > I am glad that Nick asks for directives for this conference because I > have not done before and need to be ready to benefit the most. > > Suzanne Day > > > > > I wrote a couple days ago that we would go with the 11am time, > > which was the latest we could do for the person who actually set it > > up. That was to accomodate one of the West Coasters. So far the > > only one of them who has signed up is already on record that the > > 10am time works for her. If you can't do 11, let me know and, > > assuming 10 still works for all those who have signed up, we'll > > switch back. If 11 works, then it's easier to keep it there (that > > would be 10 your time). > > > > Pete > > > >> > >> > >> Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 12:31:52 EDT > >> To: <braintrainer > > >> Subject: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > >> > >> Pete, > >> > >> Did you ever identify the actual time for this workshop? 10:00 AM > >> eastern > >> works for me. > >> > >> Parks > >> > >> > >> on-line coherence training with pete > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > >>> class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and > >>> you > >>> can sign up for the class at > >>> > >>> People can register and pay at > >>> http://brain- > >>> <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > >>> trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > >>> > >>> There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > >>> address > >>> in their browser. > >>> > >>> If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that > >>> may > >>> be of interest to people. > >>> thanks, > >>> shar > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > >>> > >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>> http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 True, but since this is a conference line that will be used by some folks who are using regular phones, a Skype user would have to use Skype Out to make the call. Also, some internet service providers stumble a bit when asked to do the visual and auditory links at the same time. pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon PM 12:18:59 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > Skype is free... > > Re: on-line coherence training with pete > > > Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced long distance carrier we can access for this call? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Not sure if Sherri covered this when she first wrote about the meeting, but here are the particulars for this and future online trainings: The training will last for 1 hour, from 11am to 12 noon eastern time. The cost per participant will be $35. Those who sign up are asked to submit their questions, if they have any, in advance so I can tailor the presentation to the interests of those who are in the group. On the day/time of the meeting, those who have signed up on brain-trainer.com (I believe Foxx posted the address to get to the sign-up page a few days ago on the list) go to a URL sent to them by e-mail and call a phone number (using their phones, Skype Out or whatever service they wish) and enter a meeting code. The meeting starts promptly. Everyone who attends will be able to see the same computer screen (mine or another participants) and will be able to speak to and hear all the other participants as well as me. The meeting will end promptly, everyone hanging up their phone connections and logging off the website. That's it. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon PM 12:49:58 EDT > To: <braintrainer > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > I would like to take this teleconference training if it is at 11am (unable to make 10am) and I could have more information on the particulars.... cost, duration, materials needed, etc > > Thanks, > Dana Rutschilling, LISW > > > on-line coherence training with pete > > > > > > > > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you > > > can sign up for the class at > > > > > > People can register and pay at > > > http://brain- > > > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > > > address > > > in their browser. > > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may > > > be of interest to people. > > > thanks, > > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Will this training be able to be implemented now for those with Infinity?? Thanks, Sheila on-line coherence training with pete> > >> > >> > >> > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training> > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and you> > > can sign up for the class at> > >> > > People can register and pay at> > > http://brain-> > > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.>> > > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > >> > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that> > > address> > > in their browser.> > >> > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that may> > > be of interest to people.> > > thanks,> > > shar> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________> > >> > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> > > http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Sorry, I think everyone already has it booked for 11. Hope it works for you. Pete > > > Date: 2006/07/31 Mon AM 11:48:06 EDT > To: braintrainer > Subject: RE: RE: on-line coherence training with pete > > 10:00am works better for me. > > on-line coherence training with pete > > > > > > > > > > > > I have convinced Pete to do a one hour on-line coherence training > > > class on August 3rd at 10am eastern time. The fee is only $35 and > you > > > can sign up for the class at > > > > > > People can register and pay at > > > http://brain- > > > <http://brain- > <http://brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44.> > > > trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=44. > > > > > > There is no link on the website, so they will have to enter that > > > address > > > in their browser. > > > > > > If this works I am hoping to convince him to do a few others that > may > > > be of interest to people. > > > thanks, > > > shar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1681 (20060727) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://canon- <http://canon-sol.jp/product/nd> sol.jp/product/nd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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