Re: Waste water and organic cleaning practices

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

We are presently working on a small goat dairy and raw cheesemaking start up plan. What are small dairy operators(10-20 goats or 10 cows) doing with their milk room and milk processing (cheese room) waste water? Any suggestions?

While we can't do organic because of the lack of organic feed in Alaska we would like to do as many organic practices as possible. What do organic diaries use for cleaning and sanitizing the milking and cheese room equipment?

Thanks for any input.

Matt and Rhonda

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[Guest guest]

Certainly don't consider myself a dairy with only 2 cows to milk and half dozen goats in milk at a given time but I'll take a stab at an answer.

& nbsp; Hi all,

& nbsp; We are presently working on a small goat dairy and & nbsp; raw cheesemaking & nbsp; start up plan. What are small dairy operators(10-20 goats or 10 cows) doing with their milk room and milk processing (cheese room) waste water? & nbsp; & nbsp; Any suggestions?

Why would this require anything different than what you have normally, a septic? We feed the whey and such to hogs and chickens.

& nbsp; While we can't do organic because of the lack of organic feed in Alaska we would like to do as many organic practices as possible. & nbsp; What do organic diaries use for cleaning and sanitizing the milking and cheese room equipment?

Peroxide and plain old lye soap and water. About once a month I let the old man talk me into Chlorox but usually I jest tell him I did and keep using soap and water. We don't have lines and holding tanks and the like. We have a small canister that hold 5 gallons of milk at a time. When milking the cows we empty it into food grade 5 gallon buckets and tote it into the canning kitchen where we filter and separate or whatever we are doing at the time. The milker is not that large and I've made a scrubber out of a bit of wire and some cloth to get the tubes that need to be cleaned after milking.

Hope this is of some help,

Belinda

& nbsp; Thanks for any input.

& nbsp; Matt and Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Certainly don't consider myself a dairy with only 2 cows to milk and half dozen

goats in milk at a given time but I'll take a stab at an answer.

Hi,

Thanks for your input. Do you use food grade hydrogen peroxide or just the stuff you can get from any drug store? Is your dairy inspected or just a home operation. As we would be inspected we would have to meet the industry cleanliness standards (I am not implying the way you do it is not clean) just wanting to get as much info as possible before we start.

Thanks

Rhonda

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[Guest guest]

I use food grade. We are not inspected as we do not sell to the public. I think you will have a hard time keeping organic and meeting state regs. The regs will say that you are organic doing what they want you to do but to me their practices are not organic.

Get it in writing, whatever they tell you, get it in writing, just don't forget to get it in writing. Even then they'll tell you that you misunderstood.

Good luck!

Belinda

Hi,

Thanks for your input. Do you use food grade hydrogen peroxide or just the stuff you can get from any drug store? Is your dairy inspected or just a home operation. As we would be inspected we would have to meet the industry cleanliness standards (I am not implying the way you do it is not clean) just wanting to get as much info as possible before we start.

Thanks

Rhonda