RE: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

[Guest guest]

Saint,

Alpha Theta, like many of my continuous feedback designs, is not a " reward "

protocol, it is an information protocol. The surf sounds give the brain

information about the level of alpha. If they went on or off, then I guess they

might be rewarding it. I believe the surf sound gets lower as alpha drops and

7Hz activity increases, and the only real " reward " is the chime that rings when

7Hz crosses over.

PEte

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> Date: 2006/07/12 Wed PM 09:55:22 EDT

> To: <braintrainer >

> Subject: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

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> Thanks, Foxx, but no, I am talking about a 1c alpha theta training. IN

> order to bring about a crossover, seems to me you are going to want a lower

> alpha/theta ratio in that one channel. Seems to me that the way Pete has it

> set up is to reward (w ocean surf) for a higher alpha/theta ratio.

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> Saint

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> St. Lee

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> From: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On

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> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:53 PM

> To: braintrainer

> Subject: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

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> St,

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> I think the design you want is 2C ATRatio. That trains up the Alpha Theta

> ratio. The designs you are looking at are for a different purpose, getting

> the 7 Hz amplitude to equal the alpha amplitude, which will often produce an

> observer state re unconscious material.

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> foxx

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> RE: Trainers in Dallas, TX

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> Many thanks St ! (~:

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> Warmly,

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> Hello all, I have a therapist in Dallas, TX that is very interested in

> neurofeedback--any names of trainers in that area for this person to contact

> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Pete,

So there is background information for the

level of alpha (o ratio of alpha to theta), the chimes for 7 hz and for

crossover. The surf then is the background for predominance of alpha;

there is no “background” for the predominance of theta, and the

only reward sounds (chimes=tubular bells) are 7 hz and crossover. Do I

have that right?

Saint

P.S., I love the constant chant and the

binaural stimulation of 7 hz.

From:

braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On Behalf Of Van Deusen

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006

10:41 AM

To: braintrainer

Subject: Re: RE:

RE: alpha theta protocol

Saint,

Alpha Theta, like many of my continuous feedback designs, is not a

" reward " protocol, it is an information protocol. The surf sounds

give the brain information about the level of alpha. If they went on or off,

then I guess they might be rewarding it. I believe the surf sound gets lower as

alpha drops and 7Hz activity increases, and the only real " reward " is

the chime that rings when 7Hz crosses over.

PEte

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> From: " St. Lee " <stgeorgelee>

> Date: 2006/07/12 Wed PM 09:55:22 EDT

> To: <braintrainer >

> Subject: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

>

> Thanks, Foxx, but no, I am talking about a 1c alpha theta training. IN

> order to bring about a crossover, seems to me you are going to want a

lower

> alpha/theta ratio in that one channel. Seems to me that the way Pete has

it

> set up is to reward (w ocean surf) for a higher alpha/theta ratio.

>

>

>

> Saint

>

>

>

> St. Lee

>

> stgeorgelee

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: braintrainer

[mailto:braintrainer ]

On

> Behalf Of Foxx

> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:53 PM

> To: braintrainer

> Subject: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

>

>

>

> St,

>

>

>

> I think the design you want is 2C ATRatio. That trains up the Alpha Theta

> ratio. The designs you are looking at are for a different purpose, getting

> the 7 Hz amplitude to equal the alpha amplitude, which will often produce

an

> observer state re unconscious material.

>

>

>

> foxx

>

>

>

> RE: Trainers in Dallas, TX

>

> Many thanks St ! (~:

>

> --

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

> This email and any attachments may contain confidential information and it

> is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient,

> you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply email. If

you

> are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction or transmission of

this

> email is strictly prohibited.

>

> --------- Trainers in Dallas,

TX

>

> Hello all, I have a therapist in Dallas,

TX that is very interested in

> neurofeedback--any names of trainers in that area for this person to

contact

> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

>

> --

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't work for predominance of theta. I want the 7 Hz activity to

predominate, so I don't give feedback for theta except the possible knocking

sound if 3 hz activity grows too significantly.

Pete

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> Date: 2006/07/13 Thu PM 12:01:57 EDT

> To: <braintrainer >

> Subject: RE: RE: RE: alpha theta protocol

>

> So there is background information for the level of alpha (o ratio of alpha

> to theta), the chimes for 7 hz and for crossover. The surf then is the

> background for predominance of alpha; there is no " background " for the

> predominance of theta, and the only reward sounds (chimes=tubular bells) are

> 7 hz and crossover. Do I have that right?