Guest guest Posted March 15, 1999 Report Share Posted March 15, 1999 I agree with you Chreub-Joan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 1999 Report Share Posted March 15, 1999 That's so right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 1999 Report Share Posted March 16, 1999 Cherubjoen wrote: I do know that they prefer, with good cause, not to put controversial topics >in this loop, and I obviously did. I won't do so again. Well, my friend, you are a member of this list also, and *everyone's* opinion is important. This issue seems more an issue of semantics--we are all generations here, with lots of training background differences. In other countries, " our " way of doing things may be considered barbaric. I saw in the past the major differences in health care overall when my grandfather was dying from Pagett's disease 3 yrs ago. He lived in Great Britain, and while their National Health system had it's great points, there were many things not done, either because the technology wasn't there, or the wait was extensive, or the coverage wasn't there. In this country, for him at least, his options would have been more varied. Would he have lived? Don't know, but I always wonder. I have had a tremendous indignation about some of the terms that have changed, mostly, as has been mentioned, due to insurance influences. Unfortunately, the insurance companies control a lot of what we can do in health care. I went into nursing to try to make a difference in people's lives--hopefully I still do that, even though a lot of my time is spent battling insurance companies to get approved what a patient/client/consumer/*individual* needs. Nursing is full of controversy---lots of different opinions, all of value. Feel free to lurk, since you must do what you are most comfortable with. The list is to talk and exchange ideas, not to stress anyone out in any way. Enjoy it for what it can offer you. But we all will miss your insight if you just ----Jeanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 1999 Report Share Posted March 16, 1999 Cherub..you are not out of line, or TOO OLD (class of " 78 myself) We were just of the last generation of nursing education where nursing was still an art..caring for the whole person, and having the time and resources available to do so..you know the time before medicare reform and DRG's...today it's all just a business, whether it's the Hospital, the HMO or the Doc's trying to make money...we just do the best we can to bring the human touch to our patients..despite heavier loads, less staff and sicker patients..and I love my job..more specifically..I love my patients and am honored to be part of their special " birth " days!!! Lori in Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 1999 Report Share Posted March 17, 1999 > >Well, my friend, you are a member of this list also, and *everyone's* >opinion is important. This issue seems more an issue of semantics--we are >all generations here, with lots of training background differences >Nursing is full of controversy---lots of different opinions, all of value. >Feel free to lurk, since you must do what you are most comfortable with. The >list is to talk and exchange ideas, not to stress anyone out in any way. >Enjoy it for what it can offer you. >But we all will miss your insight if you just Jeanine, this is why you are listmommy here. Well thought out, well written and I'm well, just proud of you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 1999 Report Share Posted March 17, 1999 wrote: >Jeanine, this is why you are listmommy here. Well thought out, well written >and I'm well, just proud of you!! Well, thank you, even if I am only list mommy by default when we started on Onelist! I am so proud of this list though--we have a whole lot of interaction, with lots of good information, and everyone is great! It's one of my favorite lists, and I always look forward to new posts. ----Jeanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 1999 Report Share Posted March 18, 1999 In a message dated 3/15/99 8:30:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, RLPasquale@... writes: << << There was absolutely NOTHING rude in your post. >> I agree. And I prefer the term patient also. Maybe it's because lawyers have clients! Robin >> I agree also. When I went back to school for my BSN, they told us to use the word " client " , most of us squaked and insisted on a reason why, actually we asked for " rationale " teehee. They replied that as " professional nurses " which we bachelor prepared nurses would be, we had a relationship with the " patient " / " client " as a care provider. I quickly added that int he hospital, they were " contracting " for care with the hospital and not with me as an individual. If I were in private practice I would see nothing wrong with calling the patient a client, as I would be hired by them to provide services. Since I am hired by the hospital and not by t he individual himself, I do not feel that they are MY clients, instead I feel they are the hospital's clients, therefore...my patient. Do you see my point? Next subject: <<<<From: CherubJoen@... Thanks Jeanine I do know that they prefer, with good cause, not to put controversial topics in this loop, and I obviously did. I won't do so again.>>>> Controversy is what loops are all about, opinions, feelings and so on. If the loop doesn't want controversy....I'm out!!! I love controversy...just remember nothing is a personal attack! No flames allowed! Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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