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Nina,

This is a question that concerns me too and I'm sure other are

interested in this topic so if anyone does have information please

post it so all can learn.

Specifically, I have wondered about 2 things:

The first is those devices which send out signals to rid your house of

bugs. I don't have one but a friend of mine does and says they work

great. I have been tempted at times to order one but always wondered

what the effect on humans would be. Of course the bug companies clain

no effect at all, but . . .

Secondly many of the devices use gas tubes. I have heard of more than

one case of noble gases causing cancer. Specifically I have heard

that if a person has a lot of toxins in the system certain gases will

actually stimulate tumor growth. (I think this is xenon, while

another gas helps to detoxify)

What is the real danger of this happening?

Thanks,

Lauri

> Dear Friends,

> Since we receive EM fields from Rife and other types of units

intended to

> improve health, I am wondering if there have been any reports of

negative

> effects from these EM fields.

>

> There does not seem to be any standard of what is too much. In all

the books

> we have on the subject--by Brodeur, Becker, etc.--there

is no

> agreement on what levels are safe.

>

> This is not an academic question. I am involved in a project to

build a

> device that utilizes components that generate EM fields, and need to

know

> more about this.

>

> If any of you are willing to discuss this with my friend who is

making the

> device, please contact me off-list with your telephone number.

>

> Many thanks.

> Nina Silver

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" Nina Silver " <ninas@b...> wrote:

> I am wondering if there have been any reports of negative

> effects from these EM fields.

Intense RF fields are bad for people.

But if you stay the recommended distance away from the tube

in a Rife/Bare device then the RF field isn't a problem.

Does your friend have a RF field strength meter,

such as the Trifield Broadband meter?

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Re: dangerous EM fields

> " Nina Silver " <ninas@b...> wrote:

> > I am wondering if there have been any reports of negative

> > effects from these EM fields.

>

> Intense RF fields are bad for people.

>

> But if you stay the recommended distance away from the tube

> in a Rife/Bare device then the RF field isn't a problem.

>

> Does your friend have a RF field strength meter,

> such as the Trifield Broadband meter?

The device does not use RF. We were thinking of the lower frequencies from

wires.

My friends ended up touching two sets of wires together and cancelling out

the quite excessive EM. Has anyone ever done that?

Nina

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> > Does your friend have a RF field strength meter,

> > such as the Trifield Broadband meter?

>

> The device does not use RF. We were thinking of the lower

> frequencies from wires.

The Trifield Broadband meter also measures E and M fields.

An RF field is an EM field with frequencies in the

RF (radio frequency) range.

> My friends ended up touching two sets of wires together and

> cancelling out the quite excessive EM. Has anyone ever done that?

Sounds like your friend shorted out the device.

What is he using to measure the EM field?

(He has to be using something to measure it,

otherwise how would he know how excessive it was,

and when it was cancelled?)

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> What is he using to measure the EM field?

>

> (He has to be using something to measure it,

> otherwise how would he know how excessive it was,

> and when it was cancelled?)

A gauss meter.

I think they have their problem fixed. Many thanks for writing.

Nina

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> > > > Does your friend have a RF field strength meter,

> > > > such as the Trifield Broadband meter?

> >

> > The Trifield Broadband meter also measures E and M fields.

>

> is this TriField meter the same one they use for detecting the

> prescence of ghost, etc.

There are a bunch of different Trifield meters (tweaked for more

or less sensitivity in different ranges).

Some people use certain models to when exploring 'haunted houses'.

Whether they are actually detecting 'ghosts', or just detecting

unexpected EM fields, is up to your belief system.

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>Fred, is this TriField meter the same one they use for detecting the

>prescence of ghost, etc. I am not trying to diminish it, I just

>remember reading about it being used for that.

No. The TriField is cheaper and just measures

E, M, and RF fields. The same company makes one

which is much more sensitive and can detect fields

which are not " time based " (60Hz, e.g.) It can

do GMF (geo-magnetic force) measurement,

which could be useful for someone who wanted

to determine geo flux lines, which some think

may be a factor in certain illnesses. I don't

know if it has a setting for ethereal fields or

not <g>.

turf

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>Secondly many of the devices use gas tubes. I have heard of more than

>one case of noble gases causing cancer. Specifically I have heard

>that if a person has a lot of toxins in the system certain gases will

>actually stimulate tumor growth. (I think this is xenon, while

>another gas helps to detoxify)

>What is the real danger of this happening?

I believe that you'd have to breath the gas for a long time to stimulate the

growth.

BUT the gas being contained in a glass tube would " not " cause any problem. Also

tumor growth can be effected by estrogen or testosterone AND greatly

reduced by progesterone. Something to think about if you ever get breast

cancer.

Take Care

Reid

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