Re: INCI Name for Amber Resin

[Guest guest]

>Pinus succinifera came from the PhoenixUK site as the INCI/Botanical Name, so

I'm unclear on correct US terminology.

Where is the PhoenixUK site?

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

>Is it Pinus succinifera?

I'd use Pinus succinifera resin

What are the benefits? Are grinding it up?

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

I found this site in a Google search for " INCI Amber Resin "

www.phoenixuk.com/Product_Essential.htm

Jen

> Where is the PhoenixUK site?

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> Maurice

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> Maurice O. Hevey

> Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

> http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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[Guest guest]

Greetings from Sweden,

Powdered amber in salves for reumatism has a long history in

Scandinavia and the Baltic countries-- Russia too.

Nice to see this link here - I worked with minerals, gemstones &

jewellery for a short while in my professional Life and have met him

on several occasions, also been to the museum.

The amber found in Scandinavia, Russia etc is very hard and also old,

was once shown amber from Bali which was much younger, very very soft

and absolutely unsuitable for jewellery. But nice as a curiosity.

And did you know that the dark amber with all the flecks and 'ufos'

floating around are actually old air bubbles which are dried out when

the amber is heat treated (to make it dark brown for commercial trade)?

Oh - and this is my first post to this group- I am mostly lurking in

the archives :-) reading and thinking.

When I am not reading and thinking and making soap or tending my

garden ( vegetables & perennials and all things strange) I confess to

being an engineer in Materials - and a kitchen chemist.

Lots of fun!

All the best from Ingrid in Sweden

> Pinus succinifera does not appear in the 9th Edtion of the CTFA

> dictionary nor does it appear in the EU inventory of cosmetic raw

> materials. The Pinus succinifera resin that I've seen is like the

> stuff from Jurrasic Park.

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> http://www.brost.se/eng/education/facts.html

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> Maurice

[Guest guest]

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/amber/copal.htm#refer

try reading here to get some information on

amber and it's subsitute Copal. Copal has a very nice smell and if purchased for

oil painting is not cheap.

Perhaps people are not using the correct name for the product.

Maybe look up the name copal refering to it as a dead tree fossil.

Joyce

[Guest guest]

> one is from

> an actual tree in India called the copal tree (copal resin

> looks a lot like pine amber and is occasionally used in

> jewelry), but that has a kind of sweet smell; it doesn't have

> as much of the warm incense undertone to it. therefore i

> don't think that's the one referred to above.

OK, now I am confused! I have gotten little wooden boxes with " amber "

resin in it, and it is definitely not copal, which I have gotten for

loose inscense and is a stronger scent.

> the other kind of amber resin is a precisely mixed

> combination of many tree resins and wood extracts, and as

> such i don't think it has an INCI name.

I'm thinking that this must be the stuff that is used when I have bought

" amber oil " , because I have also had ambergris, which to me smells

different.

Hmmmmmm. Glad I'm not using it myself right now, or I would go nuts

trying to figure this out

[Guest guest]

Me, too, . I'm thinking I may just stick to Amber fragrance oils for

anything (and keep this luscious stuff all to myself <g>).

> Hmmmmmm. Glad I'm not using it myself right now, or I would go nuts

> trying to figure this out

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