Re: Feelings and the Work - Jan Eddie - Crying???

[Guest guest]

" Eddie Katz " wrote:

> Jan,

> If that question was for me, I'm watching my ego also!

> Eddie

Hmmmmm....is that really true - You are watching YOUR ego?

Do you really hope that cries?

What would it mean if she did cry?

What does it mean if she doesn't?

Not believing the story but a compassionate cry - would that be okay?

A Zen master whose wife just passed on was sitting on the floor

crying. Someone came by and said - why are you crying master? The

master replied - I feel sad.

Another zen master was raking his leaves. A monk came by and told

him- your wife just died. That zen master replied, " She was a good

wife. " and continued to rake leaves.

Crying - not crying isn't the question is it?

Why on earth are people looking to to be a role model - biggest

form of leaving and not valuing you is leaving yourself and talking

about what does and doesn't do.

I mean lift your faces for god's sake - Jan

[Guest guest]

> " Eddie Katz " wrote:

> > Jan,

> > If that question was for me, I'm watching my ego also!

> > Eddie

>

>

> Hmmmmm....is that really true - You are watching YOUR ego?

Not all the time, I'm not. It gets out to play regularly.

> Do you really hope that cries?

>

> What would it mean if she did cry?

If cries, that means it's okay for me to cry.

* Is that true?

No.

* How do I react with that thought?

Out of my business, looking to an outside source (). Off balance.

Discounting what is for me in the moment, trying to make my what is

just like someone else's. Absent from my life.

* Who would I be without the thought?

My own authority. Present to my life. Crying sometimes, not crying

sometimes, and it might not coincide with anyone else's crying or not

crying.

* TA

- If cries, that doesn't mean anything about me.

- If cries, that means that cries.

- If I cry, it doesn't mean anything about anyone else.

> What does it mean if she doesn't?

If doesn't cry, I shouldn't either.

* TA

- 's crying or not crying means nothing about me.

- I get to cry if I want to, regardless what or Jan or Eddie or

the Zen masters of the world or anyone else might be doing.

> Not believing the story but a compassionate cry - would that be okay?

Yes!

> A Zen master whose wife just passed on was sitting on the floor

> crying. Someone came by and said - why are you crying master? The

> master replied - I feel sad.

>

> Another zen master was raking his leaves. A monk came by and told

> him- your wife just died. That zen master replied, " She was a good

> wife. " and continued to rake leaves.

>

> Crying - not crying isn't the question is it?

For me, the question is, am I in my business? Am I living my life or

someone else's? (As if I could

> Why on earth are people looking to to be a role model - biggest

> form of leaving and not valuing you is leaving yourself and talking

> about what does and doesn't do.

Or Zen masters?!

> I mean lift your faces for god's sake - Jan

Yes, you're right. I'm working on it. Thanks, Jan.

Tom

[Guest guest]

Grand is the surmise that is without " already " .

Still they are certainly few and far between.

O'Brien, british medium, said it is off target for a

perception when confusing the messege with its messenger.

In conclusion I really do not care if cries or doesn't, none

of the above would suprise me or alter my view on the work.

The work isn't , she simply uses it.

The work is a possibility, we simply choose it.

is nothing more or less than a human, some may ignore it.

Having myself some coffe and a little bit of Jethro Tull on the

recordplayer to help with the digestion

Cheers maties!