Re: The Shoulds - The purpose of my life

[Guest guest]

Thank you Andy for that very amusing and eminent reply

Andy wrote:

*****There are no individual souls. There is only God,

manifestating, momentarily, as apparent entities. There is exactly

One Thing which Is, and that Thing is No-Thing...it can't even be

talked about (the Tao of which is spoken is not the Tao).

I believe that all there is is all there is and God is all.

Yet I do also believe in individual souls, I do not see at this

moment that they exclude each other

Our individual souls are forever linked to our Creator, nothing can

brake that link.

As nothing can brake our genetic heritage from our parents, neither

can our spiritual inheritage ever be broken, only used and seen in

many different ways.

Still this reality, however seen or thought of, remains.

Just like the soundvibrations of the falling tree in the woods, if

nothing is there to see or hear it fall, it still produces

vibrations of the energy process etc.

I believe in many things, to me of course they all aligned with

spiritualism, that the soul is eternal, it survives " death " , the

growth of it is " supervised " by our own Karma etc.

A lot can be said about it of course.

I agree that if something truly is nothing, we wouldn't be able to

reflect upon it, for then it would be something to us even if we

called it " nothing " .

Love,

- Hans

[Guest guest]

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>

> But you seem to have misunderstood me a bit, I do believe that all

> that is today in knowledge is out there, accesible, yet I also at

> the same time believe that the conditions and circumstances has to

> be in a certain state of being for that access to happen even the

> slightest.

> Nothing remarkable to me, nothing even close to stress, just simply

> what is

>

Hans sounds like we are in agreement after all those emails

Thanks for playing, hope you had as much fun as I did. Of course it

still would have been fun even if we continued to disagree.

Loving what is ...

[Guest guest]

, some thoughts inserted in your text below

> Undo *all* your stressful thoughts, *then* love?

> Sounds like a long way to love…

In my experience the stressful thoughts block my awareness of love,

so until I undo all my stressful thoughts I am not done.

> Try to love this moment, until a stressful thought arises. *Then*

> inquire.

My experience is that I am love, so it makes no sense to me to try to

love. If I am not experiencing love, then I must be attaching to an

unexamined thought. It's just too simple.

> And what is your reaction to that " stressful " thought, after you

> inquired?

If I have undone the thought there is no reaction (feeling) because I

know it is not true.

> And how can you know that you undid *all* thoughts?

Oh this question is just too easy for me. I know that I

have undone all my stressful thoughts when all I feel is love. If I

don't feel loving, then I must be attaching to an untrue thought so

its time to inquire.

> After my experience there is nothing that would keep me from

> experiencing the love I am, unless I *attach* to a thought that

> arises.

>

Yes, that is also my experience

Loving what is ...

[Guest guest]

Dear Love,

> > Undo *all* your stressful thoughts, *then* love?

> > Sounds like a long way to love…

>

> In my experience the stressful thoughts block my awareness of love,

> so until I undo all my stressful thoughts I am not done.

Yes, and do you *always* have the stressful ones around?

>

> > Try to love this moment, until a stressful thought arises. *Then*

> > inquire.

> My experience is that I am love, so it makes no sense to me to try to

> love.

To love is to experience yourself.

> If I am not experiencing love, then I must be attaching to an

> unexamined thought. It's just too simple.

Is it? Good that you see it that way.

>

>

> > And what is your reaction to that " stressful " thought, after you

> > inquired?

> If I have undone the thought there is no reaction (feeling) because I

> know it is not true.

What I hear is that you don't attach to it, anymore. And what else do

you experience, if you don't have a feeling on the thought?

> > And how can you know that you undid *all* thoughts?

> Oh this question is just too easy for me.

Great! I was not out on a quest to find you a hard question! ;-)

> I know that I

> have undone all my stressful thoughts when all I feel is love. If I

> don't feel loving, then I must be attaching to an untrue thought so

> its time to inquire.

So… I am confused. I still hear that you can't *love* something until

you undid *all* stressful thoughts, and *then* you can live the love

you are… So in the meantime, what do you have?

> > After my experience there is nothing that would keep me from

> > experiencing the love I am, unless I *attach* to a thought that

> > arises.

> >

> Yes, that is also my experience

>

>

> Loving what is ...

Love,Love,Love,Love… ;-)

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree but where's the fun in that, as you said, lol

- Hans

[Guest guest]

i am behind and catching up - what comes to me concerning this chanelling

conversation is - what ISN'T chanelled? since everything 'comes' to us....we

are never the originator of thought...or expression, IT moves us and expressed

ITSELF ... and we notice or not. how wonderful is that!!

lovetheworkofbk wrote:

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> You wouldn't be able to ever read the book " Loving What Is " before

> Byron wrote it, it just wasn't available. When it was

> written, it was available, and brought to your attention by

> circumstances.

> Those circumstances are indeed forms of teaching and exposure...

> either to remind us or to learn us etc, doesn't matter to me

> because... it still takes the exposure to get it.

>

Hans what if the book " Loving What Is " already existed in the mind of

God and was just a channel for it into this world (dream).

Sound too impossible to be true? Maybe/Maybe not. Are you familiar

with the book " A Course in Miracles " ? This book (according to the

scribe Helen) was written as a result of channeling a book by Jesus

into this world.

Maybe all the books have already been written in the universal

intelligence of God. Each author channels one or more of those books

into this world, then they tell the story of how they wrote it. Just

like all the technology and science mankind will ever know is already

known. A scientist channles some new discovery, then they tell the

story of how it was their brilliant insight.

Now for you or anyone else to really grasp what I am saying is quite

terrifing because I am blowing your religion, your story that books

are written by authors and scientists make discoveries.

Loving what is ...