Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Silent Center wrote: > > > > > > > " tempestsparks " wrote: > > That's a nice thought. There is only One in theory, yes, and if I > actually LIVE and experience that (THAT) - well - I can't say what THAT > would be like, since I don't know. > > I don't feel more or less comfortable with MY pain, it was just a > question. Whose pain is it if you cut your finger? If you are screaming > in pain from cancer? Sorry, I mix methods. Right now I'm listening over and over and over to lojong buddhism with Pema Chodron and Kadampa Buddhism by Gyatso and I don't fully understand it either - but you take your experience and do a metta type meditation with it and convert it to realize all beings feel this pain and you breathe it in... I realize it's the anti- work - really in other's business. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 > metta meditation doesnt sound ant-katie to me - and i am familiar with it myself...it makes me think of when kt says stuff like,' your whats left of my story.'...'if you suffer, i suffer'....i've heard her say that she perceives no seperation between herself and apparent other (tree, person, chair....)AND she also makes reference to the bhadisattva vow somewhere - maybe losing the moon...interesting to me...different laguage doesnt sound like its saying anything different to me... Hi - I perceive as breaking through by being very aware of YOUR pain. I perceive lojong as breaking through by being very aware of ALL/the other's pain. For instance I breathe in the pain of my friend as she lay in bed, breathe out happiness. Knowing another's pain puts you more in touch with your pain. Just subtle differences in my thinking about these two processes that seem different - yet are the same. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 catherine wrote: > > > **the question for me is what seems to bring peace to me - what method is effective in showing me the truth for me? metta meditation or putting my thoughts up against inquiry...for me the work appears as more effective - the fast track... Hi - I love that that's true for you. 's dharma was a roach. I'm in Florida - where we grow them big and everywhere - I should be so enlightened by now! So far six roach running over foot experiences - nothing... I notice that before I experience peace, I must bring everything up and look at it that is unpeaceful...not fake arrival at peaceful moment...that's what's true for me. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 > I, too, " believe " we are all One. Someone else's pain, as perceived by > me, allows compassion to arise naturally. In true compassion I > naturally reach out to serve or help that person however I can. The > exercise mentioned below may certainly help one to come closer to > Oneness, or at least move toward more compassion. > > This is different than a theory I may have of Oneness, a theory that > remains true in intellect but is not continually experienced. > > It's like the story -- if a person is hungry - you have to feed that > person before you take him to God. In the most intense pain, just give > me a shot of demerol, don't give me any philosophy. I have enough of my > own. You must have missed the post about just taking morphine and adavan. I agree wholeheartedly. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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