Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 metta meditation doesnt sound ant-katie to me - and i am familiar with it myself...it makes me think of when kt says stuff like,' your whats left of my story.'...'if you suffer, i suffer'....i've heard her say that she perceives no seperation between herself and apparent other (tree, person, chair....)AND she also makes reference to the bhadisattva vow somewhere - maybe losing the moon...interesting to me...different laguage doesnt sound like its saying anything different to me... jan wrote: Silent Center wrote: > > > > > > > " tempestsparks " wrote: > > That's a nice thought. There is only One in theory, yes, and if I > actually LIVE and experience that (THAT) - well - I can't say what THAT > would be like, since I don't know. > > I don't feel more or less comfortable with MY pain, it was just a > question. Whose pain is it if you cut your finger? If you are screaming > in pain from cancer? Sorry, I mix methods. Right now I'm listening over and over and over to lojong buddhism with Pema Chodron and Kadampa Buddhism by Gyatso and I don't fully understand it either - but you take your experience and do a metta type meditation with it and convert it to realize all beings feel this pain and you breathe it in... I realize it's the anti- work - really in other's business. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 another thought below: jan wrote: Silent Center wrote: > > > > > > > " tempestsparks " wrote: > > That's a nice thought. There is only One in theory, yes, and if I > actually LIVE and experience that (THAT) - well - I can't say what THAT > would be like, since I don't know. > > I don't feel more or less comfortable with MY pain, it was just a > question. Whose pain is it if you cut your finger? If you are screaming > in pain from cancer? Sorry, I mix methods. Right now I'm listening over and over and over to lojong buddhism with Pema Chodron and Kadampa Buddhism by Gyatso and I don't fully understand it either - but you take your experience and do a metta type meditation with it and convert it to realize all beings feel this pain and you breathe it in... I realize it's the anti- work - really in other's business. Blessings - Jan **the question for me is what seems to bring peace to me - what method is effective in showing me the truth for me? metta meditation or putting my thoughts up against inquiry...for me the work appears as more effective - the fast track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 I, too, " believe " we are all One. Someone else's pain, as perceived by me, allows compassion to arise naturally. In true compassion I naturally reach out to serve or help that person however I can. The exercise mentioned below may certainly help one to come closer to Oneness, or at least move toward more compassion. This is different than a theory I may have of Oneness, a theory that remains true in intellect but is not continually experienced. It's like the story -- if a person is hungry - you have to feed that person before you take him to God. In the most intense pain, just give me a shot of demerol, don't give me any philosophy. I have enough of my own. > actually LIVE and experience that (THAT) - well - I can't say what THAT > would be like, since I don't know. > > I don't feel more or less comfortable with MY pain, it was just a > question. Whose pain is it if you cut your finger? If you are screaming > in pain from cancer? Sorry, I mix methods. Right now I'm listening over and over and over to lojong buddhism with Pema Chodron and Kadampa Buddhism by Gyatso and I don't fully understand it either - but you take your experience and do a metta type meditation with it and convert it to realize all beings feel this pain and you breathe it in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 yes jan - what i would say is that i dont seem to be able to 'bring up' anything...i lapse into a fake peacefullness often - then LIFE happens in the form of Jan or or my sister dying/cancer...and I get to see where I'm really at - that's where the real stuff is for me and I oftne resist it and I suppose that if I was really interested in truth I would be looking fwd to it...as suceptible as i am to parroting teachings of peace rather than experiencing it, the work is the best thing I'v come across as a method that brings my attention back to how I am creating my own suffering... you seem very threatened by' fake 'peacefullness in others...aahh, yes, and so do 'I'....i'm just a baby when it comes to being able to go back inside...i've been away for what seems like a long time... jan wrote: catherine wrote: > > > **the question for me is what seems to bring peace to me - what method is effective in showing me the truth for me? metta meditation or putting my thoughts up against inquiry...for me the work appears as more effective - the fast track... Hi - I love that that's true for you. 's dharma was a roach. I'm in Florida - where we grow them big and everywhere - I should be so enlightened by now! So far six roach running over foot experiences - nothing... I notice that before I experience peace, I must bring everything up and look at it that is unpeaceful...not fake arrival at peaceful moment...that's what's true for me. Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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