Re: Introducing raw milk to kids and Hypothyroid Info

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fresh goat milk is perfectly fine frozen and thawed. hard to tell from fresh.

www.MajestyFarm.comNorth Garden, Virginia

Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi all!

I just wanted to let you know that I've just created a called "Discussing Nourishing Traditions." I'm aware there's already a group called Native Nutrition, but I'd like to be a member of a more intimate, more friendly group who will pretty much stay on topic of NT or on very close tangential topics, such as coconut oil.

Hopefully, also, setting up a spin off group will siphon off some of the off topics that has been on this group (many of them put forth by me!) and I think if I identified a need in me for some NT talk,, some others would also have the same need! I'm also thinking due to a smaller group and tighter focus, it will be a low volume list. Just join, you can leave any time you want! Hope to see you over there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/discussingnt

Sara

Minnesota

To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at http://www.midvalleyvu.com

[Guest guest]

Hey Sara,

I learned it, well quoted it almost, from We Want to Live by

Aajanous Vonderplanitz, the raw foods man.  I really believe in his

information.  You should check it out!

Sara wrote:

My two cents worth, ...(and later on

down here)

   With my kids, when I introduced the raw milk,

there was NO fanfare!  I did not lead up to it, I did not do anything. 

I just poured out the milk and gave it to them.  My baby was just a

year old then, she pretty much eats whatever I put out in front of her,

but now she is having a definite dislike for certain things and cannot

"be talked out of it" anymore.  My son had just turned 6 and he didn't

even notice the different taste at all.  I personally thought it tasted

yucky, but after at the end of the gallon of milk, my taste buds were

adjusted.  Then I got a different source of milk and whoa, that milk

was plain yummy!

   So it varies from farm to farm, breed to

breed, time of year to time of year, plastic container vs glass

container, and so forth.

   I never stock pasteurized milk.  My family

have no option (unless they want to get in the car and go out to the

store) but to drink the raw milk.  So there!  ;-)  They don't really

have an option, I just expect them to drink whatever is in front of

them.

   My stepdaughter though, on the other hand,

she's 8 now, and she has caught on that somehow the milk I

serve is "different."  I haven't said anything about her refusing the

milk in front of her (what does she know anyhow about raw milk?)  I am

considering doing a taste test with her.  My DH (darn husband) did a

blind taste test on me with Michelob and Budweiser.  Guess which one I

thought was yummier?  Mindblowing!  But I really do not want to buy

some pasteurized milk just to do a little taste test and put whatsoever

little money in the coffers of those conglomerates and make one typical

dairy confinement cow suffer just a tad more cuz of me!

   , tell me where you learned all this cool

"natural" hypothyroid information?  I am on a significant dosage of

Levoxyl I'd like to quit some time soon, hopefully so!

   Hypo-Sara

 

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Original Message -----

From:

Dady

To:

RawDairy

Sent:

Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:07 PM

Subject:

Re: Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi ,

Most real milk tastes better than pasteurized, imo.  It is definitely

creamier.  Whether or not your children will like it...well that is one

of the mysteries of the universe.  Taste is very subjective.  If you

were to introduce it to them, I would wait until they are very hungry

and very thirsty and the real milk is very, very cold.  That's the way

I introduced it to my children, ages 6 and 3.  They drank it like it

was going out of style, no problems, no complaints.  It's all in the

presentation.  Now, watch out, because as we have discussed on this

list before, another mystery of the universe is that there are some cow

milks that taste stronger than others.  No one can really seem to

pinpoint why there is this difference, as it's not the breed of cow, or

the grass, or the crushed corn, or onions or anything.  Some have

speculated that it's just the animal itself.  I have had grass fed

cow's milk that tasted sweet, creamy and delicious, and then I have had

some that tasted absolutely like stinky barn.  I do not know what the

difference is, but it is definitely there.  The bad tasting stuff will

turn you off raw milk faster than you can spit it out.  You just have

to taste it and find the cow that suits your taste.  I think most are

sweet, but you never know.

Yes, and the coconut oil is the thing for hypo-thyroidism along with

raw foods.  I recommend wwww.wildernessfamilynaturals.com and their oil

from India.  Its not heated and I eat it sometimes straight from the

jar, it's so lovely and fragrant.  Unsulphured non-steamed dates also

energize the thyroid and plenty of alkalinizing foods like tomato

cleanses the thyroid.  Eat no-salt added raw cheeses, fresh raw ocean

fish (including scallops, oysters, or clams) whole raw milk, raw nuts

and occasionally 1/4 tsp. of sun-dried clay mixed in fresh raw juice or

a smoothie.  This supplies the thyroid with minerals it needs to

properly function and produce hormones.  Mixing 1/6 tsp. up to 1 tbs..

of of organically grown vanilla extract into fresh raw juice or a

smoothie helps stimulate the thyroid.  If you experience headaches,

then cut back on the tomato for a week or more, as tomatoes may produce

too heavy of a detox, causing blood pressure to rise.  If this diet

doesn't correct things within 11 weeks, then you might want to try

eating a natural raw thyroid glandular supplement.  If neither one of

these works, then yes, you may have to get a prescription for thyroid

hormones.  Hopefully, you can correct it the natural way, though.

To check for sources for raw milk in your area, go to the www.realmilk.com

site and find your chapter leader.  You don't want to just go to any

dairy.  Most dairies are confinement dairies and they feed a variety of

obnoxious substances to their cows, sometimes even bubblegum, foil

wrappers and all.  You want to find a grassfed farm, using

old-fashioned cows like Jerseys, Gurnseys, Brown Swiss, or Aeryshires. 

The milk is a golden yellow color (from the chlorophyll in the grass)

and the dark golden butter does not need food coloring added like grain

fed butter does.  A small amount of grain is okay, as long as it's not

soy-based.  My farm uses a little crushed corn to make the cows stand

still for milking but other than that it's all grass, baby!  To learn

more about grass feeding and it's benefits, check out www.eatwild.com. 

Good articles there as well as realmilk.com.  Sally Fallon also has

some AMAZING recipes in her book Nourishing Traditions.  I recommend

you purchase that book.  It will change your life.

Just as an aside, even if your children don't like raw milk at first, I

recommend you keep asking them to try it until their taste buds become

accustomed to it.  Some studies have shown that children raised on raw

milk have less tooth decay, less asthma, fewer ear infections, less

occurrences of bronchitis, stronger resistance to the flu and common

cold, and a better overall immune system.  It's a very healing

substance and raw cream even has anti-viral properties in it.  My

husband and I have been healed of lactose intolerance and early onset

of arthritis in our 30's.  It would be one of the best things you could

do for your children, imho.

Happy tasting!

wrote:

Hi,

 

I'm new to this group and also to the Discussing Nourishing

Traditions group. I'm looking for a starting place to introduce real

milk in my diet and also to make other changes. I've recently been

diagnosed with hypothyroidism which was a wake up call for me. I found

my way here via the coconut-info yahoo list and its references to

Nourishing Traditions. I find the volume on these lists together to be

overwhelming and delete alot.

 

Does anyone know of dairies in eastern Massachusetts? What

does real milk taste like? My son, 4, has never liked pasteurized cows

milk and my daughter, 7, really doesn't like it much either. So I

suppose that's a good thing :-) but will they like it raw? They both

certainly liked breast milk (and my 4 y. o. is not yet fully weaned). I

would love to offer him an alternative to my milk that is healthy.

 

Any suggestions on how to get started would be appreciated.

 

-----

Original Message -----

From:

Sara

To:

Raw Dairy

Sent:

Monday, December 29, 2003 12:41 PM

Subject:

Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi all!

   I just wanted to let you know that I've just created a

called "Discussing Nourishing Traditions."  I'm aware

there's already a group called Native Nutrition, but I'd like to be a

member of a more intimate, more friendly group who will pretty much

stay on topic of NT or on very close tangential topics, such as coconut

oil.

  Hopefully, also, setting up a spin off group will siphon

off some of the off topics that has been on this group (many of them

put forth by me!) and I think if I identified a need in me for some NT

talk,, some others would also have the same need!  I'm also thinking

due to a smaller group and tighter focus, it will be a low volume

list.  Just join, you can leave any time you want!  Hope to see you

over there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/discussingnt

   Sara

Minnesota

 

To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at http://www.midvalleyvu.com

[Guest guest]

Hi and Sara,

Thanks for both of your replies. I am researching the links and book recommendations. The closest source of real milk may be 4 hours away round trip. Can you freeze it?

Thanks,

Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi all!

I just wanted to let you know that I've just created a called "Discussing Nourishing Traditions." I'm aware there's already a group called Native Nutrition, but I'd like to be a member of a more intimate, more friendly group who will pretty much stay on topic of NT or on very close tangential topics, such as coconut oil.

Hopefully, also, setting up a spin off group will siphon off some of the off topics that has been on this group (many of them put forth by me!) and I think if I identified a need in me for some NT talk,, some others would also have the same need! I'm also thinking due to a smaller group and tighter focus, it will be a low volume list. Just join, you can leave any time you want! Hope to see you over there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/discussingnt

Sara

Minnesota

To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at http://www.midvalleyvu.com

[Guest guest]

Freezing and thawing will make milk unappealing, gloopy kind of.  Works

for raw cream though.

wrote:

Hi and Sara,

 

Thanks for both of your replies. I am researching the links and

book recommendations. The closest source of real milk may be 4 hours

away round trip. Can you freeze it?

 

Thanks,

 

-----

Original Message -----

From:

Dady

To:

RawDairy

Sent:

Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:46 AM

Subject:

Re: Introducing raw milk to kids and Hypothyroid Info

Hey Sara,

I learned it, well quoted it almost, from We Want to Live by

Aajanous Vonderplanitz, the raw foods man.  I really believe in his

information.  You should check it out!

Sara wrote:

My two cents worth, ...(and later

on down here)

   With my kids, when I introduced the raw

milk, there was NO fanfare!  I did not lead up to it, I did not do

anything.  I just poured out the milk and gave it to them.  My baby was

just a year old then, she pretty much eats whatever I put out in front

of her, but now she is having a definite dislike for certain things and

cannot "be talked out of it" anymore.  My son had just turned 6 and he

didn't even notice the different taste at all.  I personally thought it

tasted yucky, but after at the end of the gallon of milk, my taste buds

were adjusted.  Then I got a different source of milk and whoa, that

milk was plain yummy!

   So it varies from farm to farm, breed to

breed, time of year to time of year, plastic container vs glass

container, and so forth.

   I never stock pasteurized milk.  My family

have no option (unless they want to get in the car and go out to the

store) but to drink the raw milk.  So there!  ;-)  They don't really

have an option, I just expect them to drink whatever is in front of

them.

   My stepdaughter though, on the other hand,

she's 8 now, and she has caught on that somehow the milk I

serve is "different."  I haven't said anything about her refusing the

milk in front of her (what does she know anyhow about raw milk?)  I am

considering doing a taste test with her.  My DH (darn husband) did a

blind taste test on me with Michelob and Budweiser.  Guess which one I

thought was yummier?  Mindblowing!  But I really do not want to buy

some pasteurized milk just to do a little taste test and put whatsoever

little money in the coffers of those conglomerates and make one typical

dairy confinement cow suffer just a tad more cuz of me!

   , tell me where you learned all this

cool "natural" hypothyroid information?  I am on a significant dosage

of Levoxyl I'd like to quit some time soon, hopefully so!

   Hypo-Sara

 

-----

Original Message -----

From:

Dady

To:

RawDairy

Sent:

Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:07 PM

Subject:

Re: Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi ,

Most real milk tastes better than pasteurized, imo.  It is definitely

creamier.  Whether or not your children will like it...well that is one

of the mysteries of the universe.  Taste is very subjective.  If you

were to introduce it to them, I would wait until they are very hungry

and very thirsty and the real milk is very, very cold.  That's the way

I introduced it to my children, ages 6 and 3.  They drank it like it

was going out of style, no problems, no complaints.  It's all in the

presentation.  Now, watch out, because as we have discussed on this

list before, another mystery of the universe is that there are some cow

milks that taste stronger than others.  No one can really seem to

pinpoint why there is this difference, as it's not the breed of cow, or

the grass, or the crushed corn, or onions or anything.  Some have

speculated that it's just the animal itself.  I have had grass fed

cow's milk that tasted sweet, creamy and delicious, and then I have had

some that tasted absolutely like stinky barn.  I do not know what the

difference is, but it is definitely there.  The bad tasting stuff will

turn you off raw milk faster than you can spit it out.  You just have

to taste it and find the cow that suits your taste.  I think most are

sweet, but you never know.

Yes, and the coconut oil is the thing for hypo-thyroidism along with

raw foods.  I recommend wwww.wildernessfamilynaturals.com and their oil

from India.  Its not heated and I eat it sometimes straight from the

jar, it's so lovely and fragrant.  Unsulphured non-steamed dates also

energize the thyroid and plenty of alkalinizing foods like tomato

cleanses the thyroid.  Eat no-salt added raw cheeses, fresh raw ocean

fish (including scallops, oysters, or clams) whole raw milk, raw nuts

and occasionally 1/4 tsp. of sun-dried clay mixed in fresh raw juice or

a smoothie.  This supplies the thyroid with minerals it needs to

properly function and produce hormones.  Mixing 1/6 tsp. up to 1 tbs..

of of organically grown vanilla extract into fresh raw juice or a

smoothie helps stimulate the thyroid.  If you experience headaches,

then cut back on the tomato for a week or more, as tomatoes may produce

too heavy of a detox, causing blood pressure to rise.  If this diet

doesn't correct things within 11 weeks, then you might want to try

eating a natural raw thyroid glandular supplement.  If neither one of

these works, then yes, you may have to get a prescription for thyroid

hormones.  Hopefully, you can correct it the natural way, though.

To check for sources for raw milk in your area, go to the www.realmilk.com

site and find your chapter leader.  You don't want to just go to any

dairy.  Most dairies are confinement dairies and they feed a variety of

obnoxious substances to their cows, sometimes even bubblegum, foil

wrappers and all.  You want to find a grassfed farm, using

old-fashioned cows like Jerseys, Gurnseys, Brown Swiss, or Aeryshires. 

The milk is a golden yellow color (from the chlorophyll in the grass)

and the dark golden butter does not need food coloring added like grain

fed butter does.  A small amount of grain is okay, as long as it's not

soy-based.  My farm uses a little crushed corn to make the cows stand

still for milking but other than that it's all grass, baby!  To learn

more about grass feeding and it's benefits, check out www.eatwild.com. 

Good articles there as well as realmilk.com.  Sally Fallon also has

some AMAZING recipes in her book Nourishing Traditions.  I recommend

you purchase that book.  It will change your life.

Just as an aside, even if your children don't like raw milk at first, I

recommend you keep asking them to try it until their taste buds become

accustomed to it.  Some studies have shown that children raised on raw

milk have less tooth decay, less asthma, fewer ear infections, less

occurrences of bronchitis, stronger resistance to the flu and common

cold, and a better overall immune system.  It's a very healing

substance and raw cream even has anti-viral properties in it.  My

husband and I have been healed of lactose intolerance and early onset

of arthritis in our 30's.  It would be one of the best things you could

do for your children, imho.

Happy tasting!

wrote:

Hi,

 

I'm new to this group and also to the Discussing

Nourishing Traditions group. I'm looking for a starting place to

introduce real milk in my diet and also to make other changes. I've

recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism which was a wake up call

for me. I found my way here via the coconut-info yahoo list and its

references to Nourishing Traditions. I find the volume on these lists

together to be overwhelming and delete alot.

 

Does anyone know of dairies in eastern Massachusetts?

What does real milk taste like? My son, 4, has never liked pasteurized

cows milk and my daughter, 7, really doesn't like it much either. So I

suppose that's a good thing :-) but will they like it raw? They both

certainly liked breast milk (and my 4 y. o. is not yet fully weaned). I

would love to offer him an alternative to my milk that is healthy.

 

Any suggestions on how to get started would be

appreciated.

 

-----

Original Message -----

From:

Sara

To:

Raw Dairy

Sent:

Monday, December 29, 2003 12:41 PM

Subject:

Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi all!

   I just wanted to let you know that I've just

created a called "Discussing Nourishing Traditions."  I'm

aware there's already a group called Native Nutrition, but I'd like to

be a member of a more intimate, more friendly group who will pretty

much stay on topic of NT or on very close tangential topics, such as

coconut oil.

  Hopefully, also, setting up a spin off group will

siphon off some of the off topics that has been on this group (many of

them put forth by me!) and I think if I identified a need in me for

some NT talk,, some others would also have the same need!  I'm also

thinking due to a smaller group and tighter focus, it will be a low

volume list.  Just join, you can leave any time you want!  Hope to see

you over there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/discussingnt

   Sara

Minnesota

 

To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at http://www.midvalleyvu.com

[Guest guest]

I tried freezing milk once and didn't think it was too bad....the consistency was hardly changed. Maybe it depends on how long it's frozen, what kind of milk it is, etc. ? Or maybe it was just my pure luck or whatever. I might try a small batch, like a pint or a quart as an experiment to see how it turns out before deciding once and for all on the freezing question. Keep us posted, ! Am curious to hear how your kids think of raw milk :-)

Sara

Invite to join Discussing Nourishing Traditions group- OT

Hi all!

I just wanted to let you know that I've just created a called "Discussing Nourishing Traditions." I'm aware there's already a group called Native Nutrition, but I'd like to be a member of a more intimate, more friendly group who will pretty much stay on topic of NT or on very close tangential topics, such as coconut oil.

Hopefully, also, setting up a spin off group will siphon off some of the off topics that has been on this group (many of them put forth by me!) and I think if I identified a need in me for some NT talk,, some others would also have the same need! I'm also thinking due to a smaller group and tighter focus, it will be a low volume list. Just join, you can leave any time you want! Hope to see you over there!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/discussingnt

Sara

Minnesota

To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at http://www.midvalleyvu.com

[Guest guest]

We have a few customers that freeze their milk on a regular basis. It seems that during the summer months there is a slight problem with the cream seperating somewhat when the milk is thawed - kind of like mini cottage cheese floating on top of the milk. Their way of solving this was to thaw the milk at room temp until it was about 90% thawed, then finish in the refrigerator. They claimed this worked wonders and the milk still tasted fresh after being frozen for 4-6 weeks.

hth,

Janet

wrote:

Hi and Sara,

Thanks for both of your replies. I am researching the links and book recommendations. The closest source of real milk may be 4 hours away round trip. Can you freeze it?

Thanks,