Re: it ain't necessarily so... Eva -- Neo

[Guest guest]

> I love that I can have truth and a woman.

Neo, you're soooo lucky!!

Jan and I have to make do with the truth and a cucumber... :-(

And I don't even know about the truth!

Eva

[Guest guest]

> > I love that I can have truth and a woman.

>

> Neo, you're soooo lucky!!

> Jan and I have to make do with the truth and a cucumber... :-(

> And I don't even know about the truth!

>

> Eva

I hooted when I read this!!!!!!! I'm speechless!!!! What a religion

you two have going!!!!

Real hard to hear - once you sink into that which you truly are,

NO PERSON, no animal, no thing can compare. She even went on to say

that when this awareness happens you may appear to be IN a

relationship but that is impossible because the only relationship you

are in is with THAT which is in you. The person in front of you in

the moment IS the only partner possible. And your relationship with

them only serves to take you deeper into THAT which is in you already.

This belief that another can make us happy is so firmly entrenched by

our culture - it is so very hard to believe that being in relationship

with another is impossible!

's I AM CONFUSED dialog is the best at clearly defining this - I

listened to it about twenty times before really " hearing " it. We have

so much conditioning from this culture - for me I needed reverse

brainwashing with the Truth.

So Eva - I guess this means I won't be eating the salad at your house!!!!

Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

Dear Jan, or should I say dear myself, yes, that seems truer,

I got so sad when I read this post. The same feeling I get when I

read something angry I have written. You seem so angry and sad and

defensive, and I´d like to turn that one around right away: I seem

so sad and angry and defensive. Yes. The last sentence in this post

was the one I found saddest: So Eva - I guess this means I won't be

eating the salad at your house!!!! Pushing people away, not wanting

to visit them, be their real house or the house in my imagination.

Pushing people away, with my anger, sarcasms, with not ever giving

them credit for anything they say, always knowing better, never

agreing with them... Making them aliens, separation, more proof of

me being right, more angry posts... Can I stop this here and now?

Can I see that my story of you is the story of me? Yes, I think so.

This post from you could be the most loving, kind and happiest post,

full of laughter and good humor. I see nothing but my own reflection

of me in this empty paper. I see my own pain when I am in others

business, you have this and that, you are such and such... And where

am I in all of that? So hard to find myself, big emptyness and

separation. Can I write this and still love me even if I get a post

back agreing with me? I don´t know. I will give it a try because i

am tired of lying.

Love, light and a feeling of sadness,

> I hooted when I read this!!!!!!! I'm speechless!!!! What a

religion

> you two have going!!!!

>

> Real hard to hear - once you sink into that which you truly

are,

> NO PERSON, no animal, no thing can compare. She even went on to

say

> that when this awareness happens you may appear to be IN a

> relationship but that is impossible because the only relationship

you

> are in is with THAT which is in you. The person in front of you in

> the moment IS the only partner possible. And your relationship

with

> them only serves to take you deeper into THAT which is in you

already.

>

> This belief that another can make us happy is so firmly entrenched

by

> our culture - it is so very hard to believe that being in

relationship

> with another is impossible!

>

> 's I AM CONFUSED dialog is the best at clearly defining this -

I

> listened to it about twenty times before really " hearing " it. We

have

> so much conditioning from this culture - for me I needed reverse

> brainwashing with the Truth.

>

> So Eva - I guess this means I won't be eating the salad at your

house!!!!

>

> Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

>

> - it is so very hard to believe that being in relationship

> with another is impossible!

>

Hey Jan,

I don't find it hard to believe that being in relationship with

another is impossible. I can never really know another, I can only

know the THOUGHTS (stories) I am believing about them.

The beauty of these non-relationships is that they allow me to see

the thoughts I am believing so I can undo them, rather than having

them silently play in the background running my life. Without these

non-relationships I could stay stuck in the nightmare dream forever.

So in my world every non-relationship serves a very important purpose

it mirrors back to me my confused thoughts so I can inquire and gain

some freedom. This fact alone makes my non-relationship with my

partner of great value if I am really interested in truth and

freedom. Guess that's why keeps her husband around, mirrors are

very useful things to have. My darling mirror is also cuddly, which

is just a little extra bonus on a cold winters night. LOL ...

Loving what is, Jan, and that would be you.

Neo

[Guest guest]

" So Eva - I guess this means I won't be eating the salad at your

house!!!! Blessings " - Jan

Hey, I got this joke too! It's a good one :-) I always used to say

that if women could get over their inhibitions and experiment with

sex toys, men would become extinct. But that was when I was bitter

and twisted ;-) We can go to Kt events and have a ball!

cheers, Tim