Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Kumar, you're really making me want an Isokinator! It sounds like you're getting an amazing workout with it, and I'll be anxiously waiting to hear further comments from you as you continue to use it. Two questions: you say you move the slider to the appropriate kg, and maintain the indicator at the * mark throughout the movement. How do you know you're maintaining it there while your hands are in motion? Do you have to keep your eye on the indicator at all times, and if so, is that easy to do while you're moving the Isokinator around? Do you actually get more or less resistance, depending on where you set the slider? If so, what is it that's providing the resistance? Hope that's not a dumb question ... I'm just wanting to understand what makes the Isokinator different from simply using a piece of rope or a rubber resistance band. These are just some things I've been curious about. Thanks! Ronn > > Yesterday when I opened my mailbox a pleasant surprise was waiting > for me. I saw the Isokinator sitting in a cover. I can fit it in my > shirt pocket and now I have no problem when I travel. Just drop it in > my shirt pocket and go. It is amazing that you can carry 100 pounds > in your shirt pocket. > Yesterday I finished my first Isokinator workout and went to the > kitchen for a protein shake. Suddenly my wife stepped back and > asked, " What happened to you your arms? They are swelling. " This is > proof of their claim regarding blood flow. Previously, I only > experienced this kind of pump when working with weights. All I have > to do is to move the slider to appropriate kg and pull or push (hands > crossed) the strap to move the indicator to * mark and maintain it > throughout the range of motion. This made my workout effortless and > easy but once I finished my workout I got the feeling of coming out > of the gym after an intense weight training session. I am going to > give it a try for three full months and post you the results. This > pocket gym should replace cardio and weight training according to > their claim and leaves you with no excuse for skipping exercise > sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I looked at the Isokinator/Isoworker web site and got as much info as I could understand from what was written in there. Is there a significant difference between the Isokinator exercises and the Iso-motion exercises with the 20-inch Steel Bow? One difference I see which might be significant is that one only pulls with the Isokinator, but one can compress with the 20-inch. Is there someone who has both the 20-inch Steel Bow and the Isokinator? Can s/he give us more info on similarities and differences between iso-motion and isokinator workouts? Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Yep - exactly my findings - the next day it felt like i'd had a heavy session in the gym! > > Yesterday when I opened my mailbox a pleasant surprise was waiting > for me. I saw the Isokinator sitting in a cover. I can fit it in my > shirt pocket and now I have no problem when I travel. Just drop it in > my shirt pocket and go. It is amazing that you can carry 100 pounds > in your shirt pocket. > Yesterday I finished my first Isokinator workout and went to the > kitchen for a protein shake. Suddenly my wife stepped back and > asked, " What happened to you your arms? They are swelling. " This is > proof of their claim regarding blood flow. Previously, I only > experienced this kind of pump when working with weights. All I have > to do is to move the slider to appropriate kg and pull or push (hands > crossed) the strap to move the indicator to * mark and maintain it > throughout the range of motion. This made my workout effortless and > easy but once I finished my workout I got the feeling of coming out > of the gym after an intense weight training session. I am going to > give it a try for three full months and post you the results. This > pocket gym should replace cardio and weight training according to > their claim and leaves you with no excuse for skipping exercise > sessions. The following is their claim on anti-aging due to its > effect on blood flow, which makes sense to me. > > > > Stronger internal muscles naturally adjust the position of the vital > inner organs and increase the blood flow to and through the organ > chain. > The entire organ chain is revived and revitalised by this increase in > life blood and nutrients flowing through them making them stronger > and more proficient. > New blood vessels are built and existing blood vessels expand to > allow an increase in blood flow which in turn reduces blood pressure > on the heart. > Through power training the blood flow to the heart, our most > important muscle, increases 15 to 20 fold making it stronger and more > effective (see Hollmann in " Sport Biology " 9, 2004, 527), with a more > relaxed heart beat. The pump effect of exercising strong arms and > legs also aides the backflow of blood through the system. > Power training produces more testosterone than the levels created by > stamina training or sports fitness. This results in an improvement of > mood and increases the sex drive. The ultimate natural anti-ageing > remedy! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I have just been experimenting with my Isokinator and trying different things. With all of the exercise devices that I have come across in my lifetime I have never seen anything quite like it. Yesterday I took it on the treadmill which was kind of interesting as you can combine isometrics and aerobics at the same time. Previously when doing isometrics on a treadmill I just combined it with arm to arm resistance or isometric powerflexing. I just have it laying on my coffee table and it is hard not to pick it up from time to time and do a few exercises with it. So far I can't see it as the main exercise device for the isometric part of my workout,but it does add interest and variety to your workout. The design and uniqueness of it do kind of give it a kind of psychological mystique. > > > > > > > > All the exercises for isokinator right from the basic > > 7 > > > to advanced 20 are designed in such a way to monitor the indicator > > > position throughout the range of motion. Yesterday I easily > > monitored > > > the indicator throughout the range of motion for all the > exercise. > > If > > > someone has myopia (short sight) they should wear the glass while > > > exercising. To reap the benefits constant tension should be > > maintained > > > throughout the entire range of motion and turning points of the > > > exercise. When I did it with the rope this was killing me since I > > > don't know the amount of resistance I exert during each position > of > > > the exercise. Sometime I exert more pressure than required > because > > of > > > this. This made me to drop my plan of doing isokinator exercise > > using > > > rope. My resistance varies depending on where I set the slider. > For > > my > > > chest when I set to 35 kgs and compress isokinator strap with > cross > > > grip and move the indicator to * mark it gives me exact 35 or 77 > > > pounds of resistance. I don't know > > > > what is providing resistance may be we should ask gert about > it. > > It > > > doesn't matter where the resistance is coming from. Our body will > > show > > > up with improved muscle tone and size whether the resistance is > from > > > bullworker or isokinator or weights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > > with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I think this is the difference between bullworker and isokinator. With bullworker (Isometrics) we don’t determine the intensity before hand. We give our maximum for that moment. For example with chest press we exert the maximum pressure and then we look at the meter reading. With conventional weight training we decide the intensity before hand. Let us say on Friday I bench press 210 pounds on Sunday I load the same 210 pounds and try to increase repetitions or load more than my last resistance 210+ (progressive resistance). With bullworker there are chances I give 60 (on BW power meter) for my chest press on Friday and may press only 50 on Sunday. Muscle fatigue, concentration level and several other factors determine this. With conventional training I am forced to press 210 irrespective of my fatigue level. If I am not able to press preloaded weight I know I need more rest and I stop doing the exercise. This is one of the reason people see more improvement with conventional training. Gert has designed isokinator in line with the second method we are talking about. Friday I set the resistance to 30 kilos for chest press again on Sunday I will set the same 30 and do more reps or set 30+ kilos.rrbelloff wrote: Why is variable resistence useful in this device?> > >> > > All the exercises for isokinator right from the basic > 7> > to advanced 20 are designed in such a way to monitor the indicator> > position throughout the range of motion. Yesterday I easily > monitored> > the indicator throughout the range of motion for all the exercise. > If> > someone has myopia (short sight) they should wear the glass while> > exercising. To reap the benefits constant tension should be > maintained> > throughout the entire range of motion and turning points of the> > exercise. When I did it with the rope this was killing me since I> > don't know the amount of resistance I exert during each position of> > the exercise. Sometime I exert more pressure than required because > of> > this. This made me to drop my plan of doing isokinator exercise > using> > rope. My resistance varies depending on where I set the slider. For > my> > chest when I set to 35 kgs and compress isokinator strap with cross> > grip and move the indicator to * mark it gives me exact 35 or 77> > pounds of resistance. I don't know> > > what is providing resistance may be we should ask gert about it. > It> > doesn't matter where the resistance is coming from. Our body will > show> > up with improved muscle tone and size whether the resistance is from> > bullworker or isokinator or weights.> > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 > > I looked at the Isokinator/Isoworker web site and got as much > info as I could understand from what was written in there. > > Is there a significant difference between the Isokinator > exercises and the Iso-motion exercises with the 20-inch > Steel Bow? > > One difference I see which might be significant is that > one only pulls with the Isokinator, but one can compress > with the 20-inch. > > Is there someone who has both the 20-inch Steel Bow and > the Isokinator? Can s/he give us more info on similarities > and differences between iso-motion and isokinator > workouts? > > Gerry > Hello Gerry, I have a 20 " Steel Bow as well as an Exxerwatch and an Isokinator. First up I would like to clarify something: the exercises in the Exxerwatch/Isokinator documentation are referred to as " ISOKINETIC " exercises, which according to some posters here is a bit of a misnomer. I tend to agree that according to the definition of isokinetc exercise, the exercises performed with the Isokinator or Exxerwatch are NOT TRUE isokinetic exercises. Having said that, for want of a better word, I will still refer to the exercises performed with the Exxerwatch/Isokinator as isokinetic, so please keep this in mind when reading my post. The most significant difference is obviously size: the Isokinator is not much larger than an early-style mobile phone. This allows for a fantastic range of motion in all Isokinator exercises as compared to a more limited range of motion with the SB. You also have a lot more isokinetic-type exercises (around 20) with the Isokinator. The isokinator exercises also include " pushing " type exercises by crossing the arms and thereby pushing out on the loops. BTW, you can also use the Isokinator as a purely static contraction device ala BW but its real strength lies in the isokinetc exercises. Like previous posters have mentioned, the " pump " you feel after exercising is incredible and it seems to last for 2 days at least. The resistance in the Isokinator is provided bya high-tensile spring inside the device. Hope this helps, but if you have any more questions I'd be happy to answer them as best I can. Kind regards...Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hi Mike - what are the differences between the Isokinator and Exxerwatch? > > > > I looked at the Isokinator/Isoworker web site and got as much > > info as I could understand from what was written in there. > > > > Is there a significant difference between the Isokinator > > exercises and the Iso-motion exercises with the 20-inch > > Steel Bow? > > > > One difference I see which might be significant is that > > one only pulls with the Isokinator, but one can compress > > with the 20-inch. > > > > Is there someone who has both the 20-inch Steel Bow and > > the Isokinator? Can s/he give us more info on similarities > > and differences between iso-motion and isokinator > > workouts? > > > > Gerry > > > > > Hello Gerry, > > I have a 20 " Steel Bow as well as an Exxerwatch and an Isokinator. > > First up I would like to clarify something: the exercises in the > Exxerwatch/Isokinator documentation are referred to as " ISOKINETIC " > exercises, which according to some posters here is a bit of a misnomer. > I tend to agree that according to the definition of isokinetc exercise, > the exercises performed with the Isokinator or Exxerwatch are NOT TRUE > isokinetic exercises. Having said that, for want of a better word, I > will still refer to the exercises performed with the > Exxerwatch/Isokinator as isokinetic, so please keep this in mind when > reading my post. > > The most significant difference is obviously size: the Isokinator is not > much larger than an early-style mobile phone. This allows for a > fantastic range of motion in all Isokinator exercises as compared to a > more limited range of motion with the SB. You also have a lot more > isokinetic-type exercises (around 20) with the Isokinator. The > isokinator exercises also include " pushing " type exercises by crossing > the arms and thereby pushing out on the loops. > > BTW, you can also use the Isokinator as a purely static contraction > device ala BW but its real strength lies in the isokinetc exercises. > Like previous posters have mentioned, the " pump " you feel after > exercising is incredible and it seems to last for 2 days at least. > > The resistance in the Isokinator is provided bya high-tensile spring > inside the device. > > Hope this helps, but if you have any more questions I'd be happy to > answer them as best I can. > > Kind regards...Mike > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 There is very little difference, mostly cosmetic as far as I can see. The resistance " seems " the same. ie the max of the Exxerwatch (80kg) feels about the same on the Isokinator (45kg), so maybe these figures shouldn't be taken too literally. The wallchart of the Exxerwatch is more substantial, but if you purchase the Advanced Training Manual (which I did) you get even more exercises. On the Exxerwatch, both straps are solidly " locked " into the body of the device, whereas on the Isokinator, one strap can be moved along it's anchor point. This does not affect usability. The Exxerwatch has velcro sewn onto its straps so that it can be worn around your arm. The Exxerwatch also has plastic fins on one end of the device presumably to help it stay in position when worn around one's arm. To be honest, this would not be a selling point for me. One useful feature on the Exxerwatch that I find would be of benefit on the Isokinator is the little golden arm which moves with the power block resistance indicator and actually stays in position even after you have released the power block. But again, not a critical difference and all in all the Exxerwatch and Isokinator are the same in form and function. Hope this helps...Mike > > > > > > I looked at the Isokinator/Isoworker web site and got as much > > > info as I could understand from what was written in there. > > > > > > Is there a significant difference between the Isokinator > > > exercises and the Iso-motion exercises with the 20-inch > > > Steel Bow? > > > > > > One difference I see which might be significant is that > > > one only pulls with the Isokinator, but one can compress > > > with the 20-inch. > > > > > > Is there someone who has both the 20-inch Steel Bow and > > > the Isokinator? Can s/he give us more info on similarities > > > and differences between iso-motion and isokinator > > > workouts? > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > Hello Gerry, > > > > I have a 20 " Steel Bow as well as an Exxerwatch and an Isokinator. > > > > First up I would like to clarify something: the exercises in the > > Exxerwatch/Isokinator documentation are referred to as " ISOKINETIC " > > exercises, which according to some posters here is a bit of a misnomer. > > I tend to agree that according to the definition of isokinetc exercise, > > the exercises performed with the Isokinator or Exxerwatch are NOT TRUE > > isokinetic exercises. Having said that, for want of a better word, I > > will still refer to the exercises performed with the > > Exxerwatch/Isokinator as isokinetic, so please keep this in mind when > > reading my post. > > > > The most significant difference is obviously size: the Isokinator is not > > much larger than an early-style mobile phone. This allows for a > > fantastic range of motion in all Isokinator exercises as compared to a > > more limited range of motion with the SB. You also have a lot more > > isokinetic-type exercises (around 20) with the Isokinator. The > > isokinator exercises also include " pushing " type exercises by crossing > > the arms and thereby pushing out on the loops. > > > > BTW, you can also use the Isokinator as a purely static contraction > > device ala BW but its real strength lies in the isokinetc exercises. > > Like previous posters have mentioned, the " pump " you feel after > > exercising is incredible and it seems to last for 2 days at least. > > > > The resistance in the Isokinator is provided bya high-tensile spring > > inside the device. > > > > Hope this helps, but if you have any more questions I'd be happy to > > answer them as best I can. > > > > Kind regards...Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 great - thanks - its very helpful. I like the idea of the velcro fastening - although I guess it adds more time to the workout with adding and removing the device! > > > > > > > > I looked at the Isokinator/Isoworker web site and got as much > > > > info as I could understand from what was written in there. > > > > > > > > Is there a significant difference between the Isokinator > > > > exercises and the Iso-motion exercises with the 20-inch > > > > Steel Bow? > > > > > > > > One difference I see which might be significant is that > > > > one only pulls with the Isokinator, but one can compress > > > > with the 20-inch. > > > > > > > > Is there someone who has both the 20-inch Steel Bow and > > > > the Isokinator? Can s/he give us more info on similarities > > > > and differences between iso-motion and isokinator > > > > workouts? > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Gerry, > > > > > > I have a 20 " Steel Bow as well as an Exxerwatch and an Isokinator. > > > > > > First up I would like to clarify something: the exercises in the > > > Exxerwatch/Isokinator documentation are referred to > as " ISOKINETIC " > > > exercises, which according to some posters here is a bit of a > misnomer. > > > I tend to agree that according to the definition of isokinetc > exercise, > > > the exercises performed with the Isokinator or Exxerwatch are NOT > TRUE > > > isokinetic exercises. Having said that, for want of a better > word, I > > > will still refer to the exercises performed with the > > > Exxerwatch/Isokinator as isokinetic, so please keep this in mind > when > > > reading my post. > > > > > > The most significant difference is obviously size: the Isokinator > is not > > > much larger than an early-style mobile phone. This allows for a > > > fantastic range of motion in all Isokinator exercises as compared > to a > > > more limited range of motion with the SB. You also have a lot more > > > isokinetic-type exercises (around 20) with the Isokinator. The > > > isokinator exercises also include " pushing " type exercises by > crossing > > > the arms and thereby pushing out on the loops. > > > > > > BTW, you can also use the Isokinator as a purely static > contraction > > > device ala BW but its real strength lies in the isokinetc > exercises. > > > Like previous posters have mentioned, the " pump " you feel after > > > exercising is incredible and it seems to last for 2 days at least. > > > > > > The resistance in the Isokinator is provided bya high-tensile > spring > > > inside the device. > > > > > > Hope this helps, but if you have any more questions I'd be happy > to > > > answer them as best I can. > > > > > > Kind regards...Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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