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You read so much that says anything beyond say, 12 reps is useless. Yet, many athletes who are very strong and muscular today do hundreds of pushups. Everyday. And, they use no weights. I just read where one does 500 reps of pushups everyday. Hershel does thousands a day. Atlas did hundreds, maybe more, a day. And, everyone of them were and are very strong, very muscular with the endurance to go the extra mile.Last year, I was doing two sets of 100 reps each, pushups, with another hundred done maybe 75 reps then 25, five days a week. If it works for you and you enjoy it, go for it. I have found the Bullworker to help give extra strength for pushups, etc.knuj_gse wrote: >> hi all, i was wondering if pushups build> alot of strength? along with situps and squats> or is that just muscular endurance?At some point, any exercise builds strength. Forcontinued progress, though, one needs progressiveresistance. For the exercises you mentioned, thisusually means adding repetitions.There are those who say that beyond 10 repetitions,endurance is developed, more than strength. So theyrecommend adding resistance (like weights) if onecan do 10 to 15 reps of an exercise. Still, if onedoes not add weight/resistance, increasing the

numberof reps -- doing them to (near) falilure -- will still be a form of progressive resistance and there will be an increase in strength as well as endurance.Then again, why only go for one and not the other?What use is strength if one cannot last? This is apoint pushed by Furey, who advocates body weightexercises like the Hindu push up, Hindu squat,and bridge, the reps for the first two reaching thehundreds. And he enjoys pointing out how even bulkyand muscular body builders could hardly go beyond25 Hindu push ups or 50 Hindu squats. (In a way, Isee this reminiscent of courses like Atlas' DynamicTension.)Gerry __________________________________________________

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Hi rrbelloff

> In general, one will find that lb for lb, Olympic

> Lifters are MUCH

> stronger than BBs. Overall, it is the training that

> produces this

> disparity.

I agree with what your saying, I think it goes along

with what I'm saying.

> If I train for maximum strength, the best

> methodology is to limit

> the time under tension and maximize the weight. Oly

> lifters

> practice nearly everyday and they do many sets of

> very few reps.

>

> Hence, as compared to BBs, they develop much more

> strength per lb of

> mass.

>

They develop strength, but to what degree do they

develop indurance. The Olympic lifters do develop much

more strength than body builders, but similarly body

builders who focus only on heavy weights compared to

the adverage person and ignore working with light

weights and high reps could be missing out on

exercising difernt types of muscles. What I'm saying

is, rather than just having the big muscles with not

that much indurance, the body builders could gain more

indurance if they do as I suggest.

I agree that, the olypic lifters/power lifters are at

the one extreme, they focus so much on strength they

have vary little indurance. They can lift 500 + lbs

but how many times can they do that, how many times

can they lift 205 lbs? A body builder probably can

lift 250 lbs many more times than a power lifter

because, a body builder does more reps and has build

some indurance muscles. I think some arobic athletes

could benifit from anerobic exercise as well, some

could use the increased strength lifting the weights

would bring to them.

I'm not trying to say either athlete is better than

the other, I'm just saying there are benifits to cross

training.

Have a good day.

> BBs of course are strong compared to the average

> Joe.

>

> Yes, some BBs use heavy weights but NOT so heavy

> relative to their

> bodyweight mass. If I weigh 250 and bench 350, that

> is not bad at

> all.

>

> However, you will see 150 lb Power lifters who can

> bench WAY more

> than 350. Hence, they are RELATIVELY much stonger

> than the BBs.

>

> No offence, but consider putting in some paragraphs

> in your posts.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi richard pancoast

> > > >

> > > > BAsicly, few reps of vary heavy weights makes

> for

> > > big

> > > > muscles with not so much indurance, while lots

> of

> > > reps

> > > > with medium weight makes for lots of indurance

> and

> > > > medium sized weights.

> > > >

> > > > See Ya

> > > >

> > > > > You read so much that says anything beyond

> say,

> > > 12

> > > > > reps is useless. Yet, many athletes who are

> very

> > > > > strong and muscular today do hundreds of

> > > pushups.

> > > > > Everyday. And, they use no weights. I just

> read

> > > > > where one does 500 reps of pushups everyday.

> > > Hershel

> > > > > does thousands a day. Atlas did

> hundreds,

> > > > > maybe more, a day. And, everyone of them

> were

> > > and

> > > > > are very strong, very muscular with the

> > > endurance to

> > > > > go the extra mile.Last year, I was doing two

> > > sets of

> > > > > 100 reps each, pushups, with another hundred

> > > done

>

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